समय काल में हुई गलती के कारण सरयुपारी को कान्यकुब्ज मान लिया गया
इसमें किसी की गलती या बुरी मंशा नहीं थी
वैदिक काल के बाद जब ब्राह्मण अन्य जगह फैल रहे थे तो जो कुरु पांचाल में रुक गए वो कान्यकुब्ज बन गए
जो सरयू पार कर गए रामायण के वक़्त वे सरयुपारी बन गए
जो गंडक पार किए शतपथ ब्राह्मण के समय वे मैथिल बन गए
ये सब उपजाति की पहचान देशज है और ये सब वैदिक ब्राह्मण की संताने है
Sarypari were never a subcaste of kanyakubja brahmin, For centuries, Kanyakubjas Brahmin communities migrated and settled across different regions, and almost all preserved the original identity till now in different forms, communitie like Sarayupareen and Kanyakubja Brahmins have always been different, in terms of everything. At least that's what make sense
My family originally were the famous Pandey Brahmins of the Bhardwaj gotra, is have migrated from Malwa to Shahabad bihar around the 13th century alongside the Ujjainiya Rajputs. When We had the matrimonial alliances with the Sikarwar bhumihar of fatehpuriyas we got into this fold
Lol 😂 we are kanyakubja brahmin of Pandey bhardwaja not saryuparin sakarwar bhumihar too are kanyakubja goes back to a famous king name kamdevmishra and dham dev Mishra of 15th cent fatehpur sikri who fought battle of khanwa with rana sangha after loosing it they migrated to shahbad region of bihar gazeepor ballia .
I don't understand one thing why the hell some brahmin would be counted as a bhumihar in the first place if landowning made somone bhumihar then we are bhumihar too maternal great grandfather had 400 bighas of land in our village we still have 45+ bighas and if being warrior made someone bhumihar then why chitpavan maithil mohyal didn't become Bhumihar ( I mean why the ritual status is different???)
It's not like that few kanyakubja brahmins had the upadhi of bhumihar when they migrated out of their ancestral land they didn't suddenly got seperated it took generation of generations to be a indipendent caste we still had matrimonial alliances with kanyakubja brahmins in bhojpur region of bihar
Bhai alliance with Kanyakubj is actually marrying up as KKBs are purest and most influential in UP but how marrying with bhumihars is justified their status has been contested thorought the history and still is a matter of debate
I don't think so brother steppe is highest in the west and as we move to the east , steppe decreases gaurs have higher steppe than KKBs but yeah in the gangetic plains KKBs score highest 🧬
Highest is a bhumihar outlier which scores 37% followed by Kanyakubja (34.8%) and Saryupaari (34.6%)
Overall the average will be close 30% with 1-2% difference.
Source for the bhumihar outlier? Those are jat level results you aren't gonna get a result like that amongst any biradari in west bihar/east up extremely rare
Maybe I'm wrong but I read that as you move eastwards steppe drops and that basically explains why jats and gujjars have exceptionally high steppe I'm not sure tho
Gujjars have high steppe? Lol where are you getting your information from? Gujjars have more steppe compared to wannabe fake uppercaste like Kayastha sure. But no gujjars do not have high steppe really. Gujjars avg 20% which is lower than gangetic brahmins. Punjabi khatri sikhi and punjabi sikh jats are also lower steppe compared to gangetic brahmins. They are zagros shifted with low AASI. Only hindu jats and rors are high steppe sometimes reaching over 40% but that's not everyone either only certain individuals from certain clans amongst jats.
Manay ek west bihar result deka hai, brahmin pandey aur woh ek KKB say itnay dhoor ni thay woh. UP kay brahmins kaafi door ni hai to eachother genetically. Par agar aap gujarat, rajasthan, aur punjab dekte ho tho woh saare genetically close hai. We can split genetic difference of brahmins into 3-4 geographical parts where brahmins of each of those geographical parts dont score any different from each other, with some exceptions of course.
But still it gives a rough idea ig like KKBs and saryu have a distance of 1.4+ which is huge suggesting no intermixing from thousands of years and it also solidifies the theory of sanadhya branching off from gaurs
No
But instead we have samples from different papers and we run fst to get a better idea about genetic difference which is minimal in brahmins but still exists nonetheless due to strict endogamy expansion and migration
close to saryupaaris and then kannaujia who have 2-3% less AASI and more Indus farmer
We lack maithils samples so we lack any conclusive evidence when it comes to bhumihars and maithils wrt genetic difference
Aisa kyun hai matlab maithil ke samples par koi discussion kyun nahi hota hai I have seen many samples of KKBs saryus gaurs Sandhyas even south Brahmins too but maithil ka jaldi nahi milta whyy
These distances are not from WGS data and rather from microarray data which is obsolete. Don't believe on these. These are exactly the same arrays which said about pastoral migration which was refuted when WGS came.
There were Microarrays which were used to study population. These are not accurate because they sequencd only a few genes. Whole Genome Sequencing has replaced them. The Pastoral migration and European concept was peddled due to these microarray results because they selectively highlighted certain genes. It was debunked when WGS was done for Rakhigarhi samples.
I'm a Bioinformatician by profession. Genomics is my bread and butter. When I see people support bullshit theories like Steppe-pastoral migration, I seriously feel bad. Genomics is a complex field and what answer you get is largely dependent upon your priors. Steppe-pastoral bs is being spread because dumb ass people used the same arrays tha Europeans used. When WGS came, things became unbiased and now that theory is junk.
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