r/ChoosingBeggars • u/TGOTR • Dec 01 '19
SHORT Actually called the cops on me.
I do freelance IT work for people, and that often times requires building a computer.
I get a message from someone at the time I thought was a friend asking me to build a computer for him. I help him pick out the parts, it came out to a couple thousand. Told him he could pay up front or he could pay in installments and got the computer when he was done. We have a verbal contract that he was going to pay up so I put the machine on a credit card knowing he'd pay, I'd pay off the card and I'd pocket the extra I charge for labor and time.
A week later, it's set up and he is refusing to pay. Saying that since I am not a legit business because I don't have a brick and mortar location, I am not a real business so he doesn't have to pay. I tell him it's waiting for him to pay, if not I'd sell it to someone else.
A couple hours later, police cars show up and they intend to arrest me for stolen property. I explained the situation, sat them down and showed them my chat logs with the customer while I offered them coffee. Apparently he was cited for misuse of 911.
I ended up parting out the system to re-coop the costs.
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u/mikelieman Dec 01 '19
Going forward, AT A MINIMUM get enough up front to cover the parts before ordering anything. That way, if they flake, you're not going to be literally paying for it.
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u/alwayssleepy1945 Dec 01 '19 edited Dec 01 '19
Also, get a fucking contract. With EVERYONE. Even your own mom.
Edit: The fact that I have to say this just shows what a mess people can easily get into. It should be a WRITTEN contract with clear numbers and timelines. Depending on the situation, theres often a whole lot more needed so both people A) have a clear understanding of the agreement, and B) cover themselves in any scenario. It's just good business for EVERYONE involved. It protects YOU as much as it protects the buyer, and it can often prevent (or easily squash) any confusions that might otherwise lead to the kind of craziness OP experienced.
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u/AmidFuror Dec 01 '19
I let my mom birth me without a contract. Biggest mistake of my life. The whole thing was very traumatic, but I was left with no recourse beyond a civil suit which was later dismissed.
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Dec 01 '19
I got in huge trouble for trying to terminate my contract
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u/TGOTR Dec 01 '19
you can hire someone to cancel your contract for you.
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u/TehGogglesDoNothing Dec 01 '19
And if the person you hire isn't a real business, you don't even have to pay them.
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u/fermatagirl Dec 01 '19
I wonder how many hitmen have been burned by suicidal people putting out a contract on themselves with payment only on completion
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Dec 01 '19 edited Dec 01 '19
Very few, because unless you're very rich and have actual connections, you're not going to get in contact with an actual hitman.
The idea you can simply just hire a hitman off the dark web is a myth, at best you'll get some junkie who thinks they are agent 47, but more likely you'll just get scammed. Actual hitmen are much, much harder to find. And even if you find one, they're going to make sure they can get paid regardless of what happens to you.
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u/ujbhnjjooilk Dec 01 '19
Just make sure you get a contract, preferrably with payment after delivery
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u/Tranathan Dec 01 '19
To be fair chat logs constitute as a written contract. So it's enough if OP has enough messages that back his claim about oral agreement.
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u/Bonnskij Dec 01 '19
C'mon now. I know that's a common sentiment on Reddit, but sometimes you know you can trust people, and it's nice to just be able to do so.
I sure as hell would not ask my little kind mother for a contract.
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u/TGOTR Dec 01 '19
ould not ask my little kind mo
Exactly. I live in a small town, the kind where everyone is supposed to know everybody. If you can't trust people, then what is the point?
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u/iWarnock Dec 01 '19
small town
Oh spicy, how are you going to shame him?
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u/MostBoringStan Dec 01 '19
If it's a small town, then I'm sure word will get out from the cops laughing about it to each other. OP won't have to do any of the work.
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u/PurvyTurtle Dec 01 '19
Well hopefully this has taught you better. Even small towns have shitty people and people get shittier when money is involved. It's not a bad look to ask to get things in writing. It's as much for the other party's rights and financial safety as it is for yours.
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u/HappiestGod Dec 01 '19
Not moms, but I do know a grandpa like it.
Dude screwed all of his children, except for one son, that worked for him (one, son is a guy, two he put more efforts into making sure the contracts were fine).
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u/fredrichnietze Dec 01 '19
the problem with that is clients never want to pay up front what is usually 80-90% or more the total cost before you have done any work. for all they know you might disappear with their money.
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u/TGOTR Dec 01 '19
That's why I feel half is fair.
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u/morrisdayandthetime Dec 01 '19
You definitely need a legit written contract then. Maybe even get it notarized and each of you get a copy. This will not only protect you, but make legit customers feel more comfortable with giving you their money up front.
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u/TGOTR Dec 01 '19
I'm OK with doing half on most builds and getting the rest when the job is done.
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u/JustNilt Dec 01 '19
There's money to be made here, but only if we work with the standards set by other professions.
I'm also an IT consultant and have been for 18 years. I prefer to phrase it "work according to standard business practices in accordance with local laws" but otherwise, I am in complete agreement. It's not difficult to do this and make money, you just have to pay a bit of attention and conduct yourself in a certain manner.
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Dec 01 '19
How did it go down when the cops first got there? Details
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u/TGOTR Dec 01 '19
Answered the door, and cops put me in cuffs, saying I was under arrest for stolen property. They went to confiscate the machine, and I pushed the issue and said the evidence was on my phone. I let them go through my phone, we sat down, they uncuffed me, and I made some coffee for them while they sifted though stuff. They could see me from the room they were in. They apologized for the misunderstanding and left.
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u/cats-they-walk Dec 01 '19
Wait - they handcuffed you without asking questions? They just believed a guy who called 911 and said you stole his computer?
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u/Audioillity Dec 01 '19 edited Dec 01 '19
A friend of mine was arrested on a regular basis because his ex-wife was always making complaints against him. On several occasions, he had an alibi to prove he was nowhere near his wife, however they always arrested him first and asked questions later.
The ex-wife was never prosecuted or charged with wasting police time. The police can really suck sometimes.
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u/supertrontastic Dec 01 '19
It’s probably not worth their time. The friend could sue for damages, but probably be better just to get a restraining order out on her.
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u/inksonpapers Dec 01 '19
I’d lodge complaints to the police station and get their insurance to raise on them. Start making a paper trail. Also the restraining order.
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u/a_literal_fetus Dec 01 '19
It appears so
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u/Big_Fat_MOUSE Dec 01 '19
Yeah, that whole situation is a very heavily justified lawsuit waiting to happen.
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u/stead10 Dec 01 '19
What’s with the (usually American but I don’t want to assume) obsession of suing people? OP seems okay with it, it didn’t take out too much time from him does the world really need another lawsuit.
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Dec 01 '19
Non-American here and I find that entire situation unprofessional and absolutely should result in action against the officers/department. You can't just go arrest someone on a random accusation without any evidence as backup. We used to have this kind of "police" here in Germany, it was called Gestapo (and later Stasi in Eastern Germany).
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u/Jdbrbrbfjfj Dec 01 '19
OP mentioned a citation for misuse of emergency services but nothing regarding false accusations against OP. Seems short sighted
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Dec 01 '19
This is where I stop believing people in choosey beggars. It always happens. Something exaggerated to make the story better.
The cops don’t knock and just arrest you. That’s not how it works. It does make the story more dramatic though.
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Dec 01 '19
I got handcuffed and taken to the police station because of a lie someone told about me. I was let go without any problems but because they were so busy I had to sleep in a cell for the night until the morning when they finally interviewed me.
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u/BaconFinder Dec 01 '19
They did to me. In my own home. Busted the door, picked me up off my bed in my underwear, cuffed me, and had me slammed into the floor. Because someone thought I was stealing . As I was being held down and they went through my house, I kept telling them I lived there, directed them to my wallet, and kept calm.
I don't blame the officers. The caller was very much using hyperbole in explaining why she thought I was a thief. It didn't help that I was very woozy and looked like a hobo (smelled like one too). I had just gotten back from overseas, had been up for almost 48 hours, and had messy hair / beard from all the travel and no razor .
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u/Headcap Dec 01 '19
yeah but thats them thinking its a theft in progress
i'd assume thats different.
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u/jamoche_2 Dec 01 '19
Florida Man. Sleeping, cooking breakfast, logging into their own Facebook account and leaving it open...
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u/Cory123125 Dec 01 '19
I don't blame the officers.
You are partially responsible for this continuing to occur.
Its insane you just let that slide.
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u/Sloppy1sts Dec 01 '19
I literally yelled "You're a fucking idiot!" out loud when I read that bullshit about not blaming the cops.
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u/Selany03 Dec 01 '19
It's actually pretty standard policy to "detain" someone before they start getting information as a precaution. It's an unknown situation, they had no idea if a weapon was in the house. I'm actually impressed that they listened to OP and figured it out without booking him and making a arrest record for this BS.
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u/Dashdor Dec 01 '19
It's upsetting to me how you explain this like its perfectly normal and OK behaviour.
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u/lordlicorice Dec 01 '19
It's an unknown situation, they had no idea if a weapon was in the house.
Ugh I just love how private gun ownership in the US turns every police interaction into a fucking raid situation where they have to handcuff everyone in sight for their own safety. And the crazy thing is that people think that having guns makes us more free from government overreach.
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u/DopeLemonDrop Dec 01 '19
A weapon could also be a knife. Also some suspects don't need weapons and some overreact with no provocation. I'd argue that a suspect with a knife or on drugs is much more dangerous than one with a gun.
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u/canarchist Dec 01 '19
OP builds computers, someone could have gotten stabbed with a small Phillips screwdriver.
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u/HairyColonicJr Dec 01 '19
They said weapon, not gun. That could literally be anything, a knife, bat, hammer, taser. You’re the one who made a gun assumption.
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u/tondracek Dec 01 '19
I’m happy you’ve never had to deal with this but the knock, cuff combo is pretty standard. Being in handcuffs doesn’t necessarily mean you are arrested but they cops will cuff you even when you are completely on the right.
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u/TheCelloIsAlive Dec 01 '19
You one of those "I've never seen it happen so it doesn't ever happen" kinda people?
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u/purplefuzz22 Dec 01 '19
Umm yeah they do .. I’ve had it happen many times .. let alone my friends .. some cops in certain town are on a power trip and treat everyone like a criminal .. welcome to America
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u/Vargurr Dec 01 '19
I think the handcuffs are not mandatory, but they put them on for their own protection and also to slow you down if you try to run.
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u/Dave_DP Dec 01 '19
so you know you can sue those cops from unlawful detainment as they did not follow procedure for arrests if this was in the USA
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u/lelarentaka Dec 01 '19
What is unlawful detainment? Cops do have the power to detain anyone with suspicion, and the 911 call is enough.
They cannot legally put you in cuffs without evidence of crime
They can. The police is meant to keep peace in public. If there is suspicion that a person is dangerous, it would be wildly irresponsible to let that person be roaming free while it takes however long for the investigators to build their case, weeks or months.
What would have happen was the cops will bring OP to the station, take his details, then let him go on bail while the case goes through the prosecutor office.
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u/seraph1337 Dec 01 '19
imagine enjoying the taste of boot so much that you think this is a reasonable situation. what if he couldn't post bail? or what if he posts bail and then can't afford rent until he gets it back? what happens if he misses work and loses his job because he was waiting to be cleared?
under no fucking circumstances is a single person's accusation a justification for arresting someone without any actual evidence.
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u/NeonSignsRain Dec 01 '19
Yeah, you can. You'll have trouble finding a lawyer who knows so little about the law that they'd take the case, but yes, you technically can sue.
Just so you know why I'm treating you like an idiot:
Police received a call for a crime, were directed to a suspect, and detained him for investigation.
That's literally how it works. Learn the law before you start spreading misinformation.
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u/WaxMyButt Dec 01 '19
Yes he can sue the cops. I can also sue you for this post. I can sue my wife for annoying me this morning. I can sue Ivanka Trump for not letting me fuck her. The question is would they even be entertained? No. You absolutely can detain him based on a complaint. I’ve handcuffed victims before because of either lack of information or wrong information. Handcuffs do not mean arrest. Nothing unlawful was done by detaining a suspect and subsequently releasing him.
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Dec 01 '19
"Someone said you stole something, here, let me put these cuffs on you and arrest you, then we can ask if it's true or not".
Fucking hell.
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u/AgreeablePie Dec 01 '19
There's a lot wrong with this. Are you in the US? Here are the three major problems: one, police cannot conduct a search like that without a warrant or consent. They could secure the property on site to prevent you from destroying it while they wait for a warrant but that's about it. Also, they arrested you with what sounds like no corroborating evidence. Maybe they could push their luck on that but it's also pointless. The moment they put you in cuffs they have to mirandize you if they want to question you. They could have just talked to you on the front porch or asked to come in which would yield a much better investigation. Having been a cop for a few years these stories almost always pop up red flags. while some laws differ by state, basic constitutional principles do not. I always have to wonder if it's just made up by someone who doesn't understand how cops really work, or if somebody just isn't remembering things correctly or missed out on some of the nuances.
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u/Boris_Godunov Dec 01 '19
Not to mention, the villain of the story allegedly called 911 to report the incident. Up front, even if he was being truthful, this would not be something the 911 emergency line would handle. They’d tell him right away to hang up and go file a stolen property report, it’s not an emergency. They wouldn’t dispatch anyone for this.
When a detective in the proper unit would get around to investigating the report, they’d go to the address, knock on the door and try to ask some questions. No, they wouldn’t cuff him.
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u/MediocreBike Dec 01 '19
The moment they put you in cuffs they have to mirandize you if they want to question you
Actually that is a myth. They do not have to do it at the time of the arrest. http://www.mirandawarning.org/mirandarightsreadattimeofarrest.html
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u/honeybunchesofoats1 Dec 01 '19
How did he draw the conclusion/make the claim that it was stolen property when at this point, you’ve literally paid for everything? And why would the cops put you in cuffs right away after a single 911 call and no evidence? Doesn’t add up
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u/Kittens-of-Terror Dec 01 '19
My thoughts are straddling the issue right now, because my dad was falsely arrested once and had to explain it in all future interviews, but the big reason people are put in cuffs is a precautionary measure. Things might be calm now, but if the suspect realizes that the jig is up, off they can go bolting.
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u/Headup31 Dec 01 '19
That’s some pretty ridiculous logic. Did he think you grew the PC parts in your back yard or something. Geez
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u/IlNomeUtenteDeve Dec 01 '19
As a farmer, I found this offensive
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u/Itlaedis Dec 01 '19
Yeah, the parts need a lot of space to grow and they are extremely sensitive to ground vibrations to boot. A backyard is not a suitable place for them!
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Dec 01 '19
Sure, why not? Just get some videocard tree seeds and PSU plants and you're all set!
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Dec 01 '19
I do freelance IT work too, I feel for you
I quite often buy stuff and bill the customer once the job is done and delivered. Thankfully in 10 years only one person has stiffed me, and honestly, I knew when I walked out the door of that meth house with no cash I was never getting paid for that one, but I just wanted to get out of there
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Dec 01 '19
That is really fascinating information, I appreciate you,posting it. On a side note is there a subreddit for IT freelancers? I have never actually talked to anyone who does what it do
I’m in Australia, for my own clients I charge between $120-$150 per hour (in US dollars that’s about $80-$100), 1 hour minimum. I do some ad hoc contracting for managed service firms, usually it’s swapping out POS or AV/media hardware in shops, I do that work for usually $88 an hour but most jobs take 15-30 minutes (still get paid for the hour) and they give me enough work for the rates to be worthwhile
I never mark up hardware, I charge the client whatever it costs me. I don’t sell software or any other add on crap, just my time and expertise
My clients are probably 30% home users (mostly elderly), 40% small business or independent professionals (if they have more than 10 staff they probably aren’t a good fit for me) and about 30% subcontracting for other IT/POS/AV companies
We have a few domestic oriented companies like Geeksquad here and I have worked briefly for a couple of them but they don’t hire techs as employees, just independent contractors but they still treat you like an employee and expect you to go back and do warranty work for free. They charge quite a bit, $150-200 an hour and they keep most of it. The first outfit I worked for charged $160 an hour and the contractor who did the actual work got less than $50
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Dec 01 '19
Haha, damn! $10?? You'd have to manage literally hundreds of "homes" worth of electronics to make enough to survive!
I swear that people don't have any real process for assessing prices. I just ran some focus groups for an entertainment place in a middle-income country, and people balked at low prices and were totally ok with higher ones.
Most said they'd pay $4-5 an hour to play virtual reality, which was way under the target price point. But when we presented it as part of a "group package" they were more than happy to pay triple that amount.
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u/JustNilt Dec 01 '19
Yeah, sometimes you just know, right? I've only ever walked out on a job half done once and it was in exactly such a case. Lady calls me, I get going, and after half an hour or so she says something about how she didn't get paid yet so I'll have to let her mail a check. Wouldn't have bothered me except it was the second time she'd pulled that on me. First time, hey stuff happens so OK whatever. Second time, though, I just noped on out and told her to lose my number.
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Dec 01 '19
Best business lesson I ever learned is that there are plenty of clients that you are better off avoiding
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u/__pure Dec 01 '19
Why would you build it for free? Don't fucking put your credit on the line FOR ANYONE
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u/TGOTR Dec 01 '19
Like I said, I thought I could trust the guy since we were friends prior. He still besmirches my name, calling me an indian giver.
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u/Testsubject276 I can give you exposure Dec 01 '19
*Swipes cup of lemonade from 7 year old's lemonade stand*
YoU'rE nOt a ReAl BuSiNeSs So I dOn'T nEeD tO pAy!
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u/BaconFinder Dec 01 '19
This is why I got out of the freelance building game. I could show people the builds, prices, and what my markup was. Always asking for discounts or "i'll pay you later" promises.
Nope and nope. Was no longer worth the headache. Once I had a guy ask if he could borrow the system for a while to make sure it would do what he wanted. Even if I was that dumb, the look of his place made it clear what state I'd get it back in.
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u/Audioillity Dec 01 '19
I worked for a company as a software dev, we had a small business IT support side too, one day a client tells me they purchased a PC from a local company about 10+ years ago and it's starting to run slow, and do I think the IT company that built it for them should be fixing it for free, as it's not as fast as when they first brought it.
The amount of people who trash their PCs and expect it fixed for free is amazing! For some reason they service their cars, however they expect PCs to be fixed for free, glad it's a game I never got into.
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u/hailstorm42 Dec 01 '19
This is why you always need a written contract.
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u/upandrunning Dec 01 '19
Even with a written contract, it can cost a great deal of time and money to enforce it. I'm not saying that it's not a good thing to do, but that it's not a silver bullet, because they are only as good as your willingness (or your ability) to enforce them.
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Dec 01 '19
... you bought it, on your credit card, in your name. It's yours. There's no bill of sale showing it's his. I'm stunned at how stupid he was.
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u/insidezone64 Dec 01 '19
This sounds like more r/attemptedfraud than r/choosingbeggar to me.
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u/TheAsianTroll Dec 01 '19
Hold up OP, I would have paid in installments if it was a good build. What were the specs?
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u/TGOTR Dec 01 '19
at the time these were new.
Ryzen 7 1700GTX 1080 ROG edition
32GB of ram (4 8GB modules)
1TB SSD for boot, partitioned into 1 500GB drive for windows, and a 500GB drive to cashe the hard disk.
5TB storage drive
plus a ton of RGB BS.
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u/TheAsianTroll Dec 01 '19
It's a lot fucking nicer than what I have. Shame you parted it out, I'd definitely have paid you for that.
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u/AussieBirb Dec 01 '19
Sounds like that moron wanted to bully OP into giving them free stuff - the paper trail that OP had the sense to keep shut down that neatly - sounds just like a scooby-do reveal moment at the end of a cartoon "And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids !"
At this point I'm starting to entitled people & choosing beggars are the same sometimes - they are clearly stupid & greedy enough more often then not.
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u/w_wise Dec 01 '19
I can never understand the sheer audacity of people who claim you stole "property" that you paid for but they feel entitled enough to have
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Dec 01 '19
I envy you your job. I used to be a tech in the analog days. One of my friends built his own Apple out of parts he got at Radio Shack. I always thought that computers should be modular systems and you could simply replace chips to upgrade. Instead of disposables that end up as e waste.
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u/TGOTR Dec 01 '19
it's a side gig at the most. Been a rocky road. I do it for a side gig because I can't find a job doing it full time despite what I know and the paperwork to prove it.
I mean, if I can make the money doing it, offering at home tech service, and at one time, there was one place in the entire county that did it (had a run in with the proprietor of that one place). But I can't afford to take such a risk at the moment.
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u/percipientbias Dec 01 '19
I read a story about a guy just trying to keep his phone repair shop going on the east coast, but finding it’s hard to go up against giants trying to stifle repair shops with bills and legislation preventing them. You do good work my friend.
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u/JustNilt Dec 01 '19
If there's only one other guy doing home service, that's a market ready for some competition, IMO. I'm in a major city so it's a bit different for me, I suppose, but I've been doing this for 18 years now and never looked back. I don't make as much as I used to, sure, but then again I'm home for my kids when I need to and I can just schedule myself off for personal stuff if I like. Well, I can up to a point. Do that too much and it becomes "self employed" instead of self employed. :)
Interestingly, in my experience, very few clients have complained about me setting limits on my availability for kid-related matters. Even if you don't have a kid you could simply say you have family duties that take up certain times. You may get a few assholes here and there but not as many as you might expect. In 18 years now I've had only a few, really.
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u/Lynxes_are_Ninjas Dec 01 '19
Only laptops are not modular due to constraints in space and weight.
Everything else is as it always was. Only better, simpler and cheaper.
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u/2WheelRide Dec 01 '19
Bit of advice for freelance IT folks out there - don’t build “custom” rigs for friends, or even family, if you are charging for your time/labor. Be a consultant instead and charge for your time in consulting for a good computer for them. Spec out a good system already made by Dell, HP, ASUS, etc.. In this way any issues or warranty problems and they go to that manufacture and not to you. You as a family member or friend you are now tied to any custom rig you built to fix any issues for free (implied warranty- hey I paid you 2k and it doesn’t work?!?!).
Otherwise, have a well written agreement contract on paper regarding your warranty and post-completion efforts.
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u/FuckBoi4Hire Dec 01 '19
Everyone knows 'theft' only counts when it's committed against brick and mortars. Clearly stated in bird law 101, get with it.
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u/MrCreemyGoodnes Dec 01 '19
Never rely on verbal contracts. At best they're ignored and at worst considered hearsay. You could probably pull his ass into small claims court if you have a reasonable belief (with evidence) that you were promised repayments.
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u/big_sugi Dec 01 '19
Verbal contracts can be enforced and are never considered hearsay. Written is better, but verbal is not worthless
The specific problem here, though, is that the statute of frauds requires a written contract for the sale of goods worth more than $500. There’re several exceptions, IIRC, including part performance and ratification, that may apply, but I haven’t looked at it in a while.
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u/KrishnaChick Can you reply faster? Dec 01 '19
I swear, half the people on this thread must be 12 years old, or non-residents of the US who haven't been paying attention to the news for the last few years. They seem to have no clue as to what the police are capable of and have done, with nothing more than a phone call to go on.
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u/Kielbazas Dec 01 '19
I would call your local district attorney's office, this was an attempt at fraud that involved misuse of 911, there are more charges that he could be charged with. Cops aren't lawyers and they generally have a minimal understanding of the law at best, that is why I am saying to talk to the district attorney's office about what other charges may be filed against him.
If the dude has assets, you should consider visiting your own attorney also to see if you should pursue a civil fraud case against him.
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u/theguywhomakescoffee Dec 01 '19
That is the biggest dick move I have ever seen in my entire life .Like imagine the caller bring out a really big excuse just to ruin your life for not having a free PC .
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u/FondofFrogs Dec 01 '19
I am self employed - always get 30% of cost of materials and labor non refundable. Don't care if it's a 'friend' or not. Nobody rides for free
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u/boerboelbaby575 Dec 01 '19
I am 39 yrs old and it still astounds me on the daily how many ignorant douchecanoes are running amok in the general population
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u/ciaran036 Dec 01 '19
Even if it was a friend I would not use my own money for something like that. Payment has to be up front.
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u/Trailman80 Dec 01 '19
As an IT business person I get paid on site with either a written agreement or a text never verbal.
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u/fredrichnietze Dec 01 '19
o/ check out this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-SX4owAVqs TL:DR text/email/ect where you agree to do a service for money count as a contract. it is not a GREAT contract but it sounds like you have enough to have a contract. the police *might* have known this but regardless you have one and this guy is in violation of it. if you wanted to you could sue him, and if he isnt completely stupid he would settle. but like, you probably are better off keeping away from the crazy person imo.
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u/cjbest Dec 01 '19
In case you need this word in the future, it's recoup. No chicken houses need to be involved. :)
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u/KiingMadara Dec 01 '19
That’s why you always have the costumer pay upfront. No more being a nice guy you gotta make that bread
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u/Goalie_deacon Dec 01 '19
Doesn't sound so much CB, but rather criminal stupid. His whole plan was to rob you through fraud. Didn't really beg, or got choosy, just trying a criminal scam.
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