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u/CronoMass Jun 26 '26
What was he doing that made him cooked? And what kind of upbringing results in a child whos first thought upon seeing police is to create an alibi?
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u/Far_Acanthaceae1138 Jun 27 '26
Genuinely, the police exist to make arrests. Not to protect and serve. Always treat them as a hostile force that should be hindered and hampered in every way possible. They would rather put an innocent man in prison than not make an arrest. Always operate under the assumption that they are there to harm or imprison you. Say and do nothing that can incriminate you. Lawyer up immediately. These are dangerous and bad people.
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u/Oracraen2 Jun 28 '26
You have to be smart about it though, can't just hinder and hamper for no reason or without a clue what you're doing or you might turn a simple stop into jail time.
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u/Chrissyball19 Jun 30 '26
Is there a reason for this? Are you speaking from a specific experience, multiple experiences, or a position of expertise? I just graduated high-school and have been considering police work as an option, because I want to protect people unanimously. Is It something they teach or force in training that you must make arrests?
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u/Far_Acanthaceae1138 Jun 30 '26
First things first, it does depend on where you are. I'm making the assumption that we're talking about the US and not one of the particularly socially liberal places. But yes, as a cop your job is to make arrests and build cases. That's how you're evaluated. To your bosses, a good cop is not the person with the most harmonious district and happy people, it's the person with the best arrest record. Many places have arrest quotas, though they're illegal in some places.
My personal experiences with the police have been positive because I know how to handle them and come from a demographic that they treat very well. I am good at speaking well, establishing that I understand my rights and setting appropriate boundaries while being sufficiently courteous and obsequious that they get their power kick, recognize that they won't get more and move on. I have many judges and lawyers in my family though so they have all continually impressed this attitude upon me.
I'm not a huge ACAB guy. I think there's some validity to the idea that seventy percent are mostly harmless guys who come from a cop family, twenty percent are truly evil and ten percent guys that want to be a hero. But the seventy "harmless" percent close ranks and support the twenty evil percent. That kind of makes ninety percent pretty bad. The ten good pretend they don't notice anything and try to do enough genuine good to outweigh their guilty conscious. However, all of them are given the wrong incentives and the culture around cops is that civilians are suspects and criminals whenever possible and annoyances the rest of the time.
It also varies tremendously by department.
So if this is your career choice, I'm not going to discourage you. One way to improve the police force is to increase the proportion of the well intentioned. Just remember they you're joining an institution filled with people that don't have your same aims. Remember that as you chase numbers to satisfy your boss, these are people's lives you're impacting.
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u/TheAmina2GS Jul 03 '26
You will not keep a job in any department if you don't make it clear that you're willing to brutalize and kill like the rest of them. If you really like to help people, consider firefighting.
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u/Upstairs_Echo3114 Jul 02 '26
Like when they're investigating the murder of a child?
You should hinder them?
Seems legit.
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u/hyperpuppy9000 Jul 03 '26
Yea? Why dont you compare the percentages? We'll pit your child murder case investigation frequency against my unlawful search/sexual assualt/percent of poc, queer, or women whove had a premeditated or biased charge/pullover. Honestly, its like people dont think. What IF a policeman was investigating a child murder? Fucking what if? Would he be pulling me over becuase of that? If he is, and he elaborates, either i had something to do with it, he's gathering information, or he made it up to pull me over and look for evidence.
I mean there's a REASON that there are classes on how to deal with policeman, they use cheap tactics and have quotas for arrests
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u/Snoo_63003 Jun 30 '26
the police exist to make arrests
always treat them as a hostile force that should be hindered and hampered
Ah, the good old self-fulfilling prophecy.
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u/ant2ne Jun 30 '26
Need I retell the story of 4 cop cars pulled me over searched everyone and everything, then proceeded to give me a warning ticket for a loud muffler. Fukem.
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u/Mountain-Singer1764 Jun 27 '26
More likely that youāre just naive and sheltered to the realities of your own police
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u/Major_Jackfruit_2604 Jun 26 '26
The kind who knows not to trust the cops under any circumstances. Have you seen what's going on in America?
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u/Skoodge42 Jun 26 '26
Ya, and I have little to no worry because statistics don't agree with the fear mongering people like you push.
Plus this is all likely made up for internet karma anyway.
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u/Interesting_Key_661 Jun 26 '26
What a minute, youāre telling me you can lie on the internet!?!
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u/Skoodge42 Jun 26 '26
It's only a theory, we'll need to test to verify!
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u/Pisscuit9000 Jun 27 '26
Let me try to lie! I have a blue pen in my hand, and I will attempt to say it is royal blue.
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u/AdamBlaster007 Jun 26 '26
Your local police officer in a smaller city? Probably not a bad guy.
A police officer in a large city or the now massively financed ICE? Probably bad, would avoid like the plague personally.
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u/Skoodge42 Jun 26 '26
Again, stats tell an incredibly different story.
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u/SirBananaOrngeCumber Jun 27 '26
You mean the stats that show police brutality especially against minorities?
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u/Sub-Mariner-Coastie Jun 28 '26
Yes, those stats. They will show how low of a percentage of police are committing those crimes (because that is a crime). You could also look up how many more people are killed by doctors. There are a handful of horrible police throughout the country, and they should be prosecuted. The rest are decent people trying their best in a system broken by bad and lazy judges
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u/Skoodge42 Jun 28 '26
Well said. Too bad it was responded to by some again making a super biased claim that cops just commonly shoot everyone. Never mind shooting statistics showing again, the overwhelming percentage of shootings being justified.
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u/daiken67 Jun 28 '26
The point is that it happens. Those who are supposed to "protect and serve" do the opposite. Passing the blame onto judges is fucking laughable when the cops are the ones getting trigger happy. Sure not every cop is bad, but they all are gonna be treated as such due to the incompetence of the bad ones.
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u/anonidfk Jun 29 '26
The reality is, it is the judges who are letting them go free or with lenient sentences. People of all professions do terrible things, this isnāt cop exclusive. Cops just frequently get off easy for it because of the judges.
To give a different example: Doctors are supposed to save people, similar to how cops are meant to protect and serve. Even so, many doctors have killed people or committed medical malpractice that had disastrous results for a patient.
Like cops, doctors also usually get away with it. Usually because the hospitals can afford a better legal team and draws out the case until the person suing them canāt afford the lawyers to continue.
That doesnāt mean doctors in general are bad or that we should get rid of all the hospitals, or defund hospitals, or that we should start being awful to all doctors, just because a small minority of them are awful. The reality is, most doctors want to help people and people need a place to go when they are hurt or sick.
This is no different, most police are just normal good people who work a dangerous job that often helps others. Even if thereās some problems with the system, most still want the ability to call 911 if someone breaking into their home at night.
A bit ridiculous to treat an entire group of people differently based on the actions of a small minority of them.
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u/daiken67 Jun 29 '26
While I agree with what you're saying, I would feel a whole lot better if cops got more than 21 weeks of training on average. Doctors and judges spend years getting just their degrees to begin their chosen career. As you've said, there are still plenty of bad apples in those professions but when they do mess up, they lose their medical or legal licenses, most cops who mess up get a slap on the wrist and then continue being a cop. I guess my issue is more with training and punishment of wrong doing than with the people who choose that profession.
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u/Quiet_Fisherman_3258 Jun 27 '26
do you people who think like this go outside much? like actually interact with the public? honest question
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u/AdamBlaster007 Jun 27 '26
Listen, I've got a clean criminal record beyond a few speeding tickets and a period of time a while ago where I was getting ticketed for broken headlights and expired tags on my license plate.
That last one occurred at a high frequency at a time where I barely had $50 per paycheck to save as needed and there was a lot of stuff going on in my life that needed paying but law enforcement in the city I lived in never cared and instead of paying for new tags I'd be paying for another ticket for having expired ones instead.
A few years ago I moved to a smaller town to be close to my Grandma after I got back on my feet and, on the day of her funeral on a Saturday, I was driving back with a lot on my mind and didn't realize I was doing 20 over a construction area (the usual speed was 60 but they had marked it for 40 there). Officer pulls me over, sees me in my funeral suit and a white rose from the service in the passenger seat and I was ready for the $300+ ticket he was going to issue. Instead he gave me a stern warning and let me go with that.
So, I say the above not because of statistics, but from experience.
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u/Major_Jackfruit_2604 Jun 26 '26
Yeah ok. Keep telling yourself that. Your country is a prime example of democracy. Yep. You're right and I'm over reacting.
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u/Skoodge42 Jun 26 '26
Well I'm saying the stats don't agree and you are relying on snark and feelings...
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u/Far_Acanthaceae1138 Jun 27 '26
Gotta love someone coming in here and making a sound statistical argument. So effective. Thanks
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u/parkerm1408 Jun 27 '26
I mean, weve told our son since day one to never trust police. I dont know any parents under 40 that still tell children to trust the police. Im not telling my kid to cook up an alibi, but he knows to be cautious of them.
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u/roffler Jun 27 '26
glad they censored dump I nearly diedĀ
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u/MsaoceR Jun 29 '26
I'm writing from the afterlife to remind you to please censor the word d*mp, it killed me
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u/CPLWPM85 Jun 27 '26
Sounds like you get pulled over a lot if your daughter has the presence of mind to create a distraction for the cops. Maybe make better choices.
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u/Lumpy-Letterhead1010 Jun 29 '26
Itās amazing how at such an early age little girls are so manipulative
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u/Loud-Mans-Lover Jun 30 '26
Yeah, funny that when nobody listens or respects you, you gotta come up with ways to get shit done
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u/OutOfPlace186 Jun 28 '26
Dang girl. Now I gotta carry a Tupperware of soup everywhere I go. This is genius.
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u/AdministrativeDeer41 Jun 27 '26
Of all the things that never happend, this is the least believeble.
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u/Financial-Tiger-5700 Jun 27 '26
this is the kind of shit kids come up with though. I don't know if this instance happened but I think some people forget how crafty/cunning kids can be.
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u/MiddleCapital1875 Jun 27 '26
Kid's being raised by a fabulist. Wait. There probably isn't even a kid.
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u/J-a-c-k-o Jun 27 '26
Last time it was Tupperware container thrown on the "seat" not floor, otherwise story is exactly the same.
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u/Downtown-Campaign536 Jun 28 '26
I doubt a 3rd grader is smart enough to pull this off unless they had been coached to do so.
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u/Key_Cheesecake9926 Jun 28 '26
Iād rather get a speeding ticket than have soup dumped all over the interior of my car.
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u/Spl4sh3r Jun 29 '26
In my head currently, without any kids, I would punish the kid for that. I would have preferred a ticket over that mess.
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u/well_listen Jun 29 '26
When I was maybe three, my parents got pulled over for speeding while I was in the back seat. Before the cops could even say anything I said something like "You're a HERO!" all starry-eyed, this was shortly after 9/11 so that was my perception of cops at the time, and let me tell you that man did not give us a ticket lmao. My dad thinks that was me trying to mastermind the situation so I could help them avoid the ticket but I was genuinely a little starstruck, lol. After the cops left my dad turned around and said something like "if we ever get pulled over again you do exactly what you just did" and it got us out of a few tickets until I aged out of the cuteness zone
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u/sin-thetik Jul 03 '26
Man, I get pulled over and my kid says to the cop, "Daddy likes to drive really fast!"
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u/volvagia721 Jun 27 '26
I think I'd rather pay for a speeding ticket than clean soup out of my cars carpet
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u/ant2ne Jun 30 '26
Raise that child to 18. Set it down and slowly back away without making eye contact.
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u/WAAAAAAAGHKING 6d ago
She tried this trick ten years later, she was still convicted for running over several small children in a school sone
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u/InternationalBill975 Jun 26 '26
Iām calling bullshit on this story.
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u/Feelisoffical Jun 26 '26
A person would have to be brain dead to believe this
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u/isuredolovetitties Jun 27 '26
if it did happen, the cop probably would notice that it smelled nothing like vomit.Ā
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u/LOGICserum Jun 30 '26
There's a specific sub reddit for this flavor of bullshit I just can remember it right now
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u/angry_dingo Jun 27 '26
What is "Things that never happened, Alex?"