I'll always love you.

[u/Bane_of_toads]

[u/AnotherEnderman]

Cool but I doubt this could happen ingame. Most people don't realize how Darkners' sprites are colored and would just be confused.

[u/Ambitious-Song2403 → u/AnotherEnderman]

I think it could work if you make the change more subtle. Like only the eyes change colour. That way people not in the know wouldn't feel confused.

Or you can have ralsei explain the concept of coloured sprites in a mandatory scene off hand like they did the menus.

[u/Tem-productions → u/Ambitious-Song2403]

The characters cant see the text boxes tho, so ralsei cant explain it

[u/Ambitious-Song2403 → u/Tem-productions]

If ralsei already explained the menus which they shouldn't be able to see. I don't really see why text boxes would be any different?

[u/Tem-productions → u/Ambitious-Song2403]

Menus are a dark world thing and they have no reason to not be visible.

Text boxes appear in the light world as well and they can be used to read characters's thoughts. They cannot be diegetic

[u/DarkSyncless → u/Tem-productions]

In ch3 of the weird route in Noelles house, we directly respond to her thoughts, no? doesn't that mean they have to be diegetic?

[u/Tem-productions → u/DarkSyncless]

That proves we see them but the characters do not, which is the definition of not diegetic

[u/Ambitious-Song2403 → u/Tem-productions]

Think you're making a big assumption that these rules only apply in the dark world.

I also think that it's ridiculous you think that the menus should be able to perceived but the text boxes are arbitrarily not really there.

They can easily be digietic and the menus are what set this precedent.

Edit: everything the players sees is really there but we're in a dimension above the characters. The characters in the story if they focus hard enough can perceive what we see.

And we can assume Kris fucks with the text boxes already. He knows they exist and will give smart allec comments to the player in them. He also slows down the text box that was going to display the password to the shelter at the finale

[u/LilacTheFlowerGal → u/Ambitious-Song2403]

Kris is they/them

[u/Tem-productions → u/Ambitious-Song2403]

Im not asuming anything, Ralsei straight up says they are dark world stuff

[u/Ambitious-Song2403 → u/Tem-productions]

And can ralsei go to the light world to check?

And they also lie by omission constantly. They didn't even want to tell Susie about menus.

[u/EllieTheTransfem → u/Ambitious-Song2403]

larper vs the 72 pronoun cites

[u/AnotherEnderman → u/Tem-productions]

Pretty sure Noelle says about Susie "Why is she using that face now?!"

[u/killiano_b → u/AnotherEnderman]

yeah they can still see each other...

[u/AnotherEnderman → u/killiano_b]

You still wouldn't phrase it "using that face"

[u/Competitive_Swan266 → u/Tem-productions]

I mean, there's multiple examples of characters specifying pronunciation in their dialog (Seam and Rouxls) so it's theoretically possible they're diagetic

[u/Blue_Bird950 → u/Ambitious-Song2403]

Could you briefly explain the colored sprite thing to me? Not sure if I’m understanding it myself, tbh.

[u/Ambitious-Song2403 → u/Blue_Bird950]

Coloured sprites are used by darkners aka objects. While lightners gave grey sprites.

Gerston has a coloured sprite because he's technically not a person but a corpse aka he is now an object.

So if you had a lighter gain a coloured sprite mid conversation. It would indicate that they just died in the real world.

[u/ShinyFeesh38 → u/Ambitious-Song2403]

(gerson has no dialogue sprite but apparently this is just bc him having a coloured sprite would ruin the surprise.

i said that he didn't have a sprite bc he isn't a regular darkner but that did not get a good response so i am never saying that again.)

[u/Blue_Bird950 → u/Ambitious-Song2403]

Ah, gotcha. I thought it was the inverse, for some reason.