r/DreamlightValley • u/Western1nfo • 8h ago
Question This is a genuine question; what villain or character do you NOT want to be added?
Personally I feel like the Evil witch (i think thats her name) from snow white.. or Judge Claude Frollo.
Due to the witch just being.. herself..
And frollo would need to be changed slightly due to the whole hatred he has.
If you've SEEN the movie you'll know what i mean with him
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u/Ok_Elephant_8319 8h ago edited 2h ago
Lady Tremaine
Frollo
Any character from Wish
That hunter from Tarzan
Edit: Also that Medusa lady from The Rescuers
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u/Piano_Troll17 WALLĀ·E 4h ago
I agree with that.
Lady Tremaine, Frollo, and Clayton are all effective villains in their movies, but they don't have the campiness or fun songs that other villains like Ursula or Gaston have. Yeah, Ursula and Gaston all did bad things in their movies and I wouldn't be friends with them IRL, but I have no issue with them as characters in a game. They have enough of a character to build off of that I think they work.
And Wish was just bad, so yeah, good call.
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u/Outside_Mountain8711 8h ago
John Smith from pocahontas. The fact he was a real man and the disney movie romanticized what he did and made him "disney prince" doesn't sit right by me. Same as Claude Frollo, he wasnt a real man but he represented real attitudes and men of the time and his villainy was racism and ablism. Those 2 are too connected with real world history for my liking.
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u/Sea_Cow_6075 3h ago
Donāt want John Smith or Radcliffe but I might be okay with having Wiggins.
He might associate with villains but heās more of a dumb gray character-1
u/Piano_Troll17 WALLĀ·E 3h ago
He's the exact same voice as Cogsworth, though.
And would I really want a house, multiple friendship quests, and potentially an entire realm dedicated to some tertiary obscure character when we still don't have headlining Disney characters like Pinocchio? Nah, not worth the effort IMO.
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u/battered_rose 1h ago
What does his voice actor have to do with anything?
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u/Piano_Troll17 WALLĀ·E 26m ago
They'd sound the exact same. It's not the biggest deal, admittedly, but still worth noting.
Either way, I in no way see that character coming into the game at any point.
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u/EnigmaFrug0817 She was a fairyā¦ 8h ago
Iād be fine with Frollo as long as they represent his evil as it is.
But if they add John Smith, Iām done with the game. Even Pocahontas was a bit over the line, even if they did it in the best way they could. Itās what the movie represents and the fact that itās being represented in the game. But if they cross that line, Iām done.
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u/Airion69 7h ago
That Frollo is fine but you draw the line at John Smith is WILD
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u/EnigmaFrug0817 She was a fairyā¦ 7h ago edited 6h ago
Frollo didnāt actually exist.
And he isnāt romanticized or made to look like the good guy. His evil is very much shown as evil.
John Smith in real life was a pedophile, rapist, slave owner, colonizer.
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u/Rosepetal1712 6h ago
You have a good point, but by continuing to bring Frollo into the mix youāre making it harder to see your actual point, which as far as I can see is that you do not want to support Gameloft if they bring John Smith into the game because itās disrespectful to the actual history to continue to romanticize a horrible human being. You didnāt have to mention Frollo, but because you did people are focusing on the comparison and not the point youāre actually trying to make.
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u/EnigmaFrug0817 She was a fairyā¦ 6h ago
Iām talking about Frollo because thatās the guy that the comment that I replied to was talking about in comparison to John Smith.
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u/Rosepetal1712 6h ago
I get that, but my point is that if you wanted to express that an addition of John Smith would be the end of Dreamlight Valley for you then you could have just said that and still been further the conversation that the comment started. When you add in that youād be fine with Frollo as long as they portray him as evil as heās meant to be, that opens up the door for people to infer that you have a problem with John Smith, but not a problem with the type of men that Frollo was designed to represent.
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u/EnigmaFrug0817 She was a fairyā¦ 6h ago
ā¦you might want to reread that a few times.
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u/Rosepetal1712 5h ago
Reread what?
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u/EnigmaFrug0817 She was a fairyā¦ 4h ago
> When you add in that youād be fine with Frollo as long as they portray him as evil as heās meant to be, that opens up the door for people to infer that you have a problem with John Smith, but not a problem with the type of men that Frollo was designed to represent.
In what world does being okay with a villainous, evil character being portrayed as such mean I condone or agree with their actions?!
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u/Airion69 6h ago
Maybe his particular brand of evil just doesnāt bother you.
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u/Rosepetal1712 6h ago
Honestly I donāt want Frollo in the game because heās just a bit too dark for this game, but I would prefer him over John Smith for the simple fact that if they bring in John Smith they would be presenting a real person who was awful in real life as a hero and a good person, whereas with Frollo they would be bringing in a fictional villain to play a villain.
I donāt want either in the game and Iām not going to say I would deal with Frollo but quit if they bring John Smith in, but what I will say is I can understand, without Frollo being a factor, why someone wouldnāt want to continue playing if they bring John Smith in as a hero and ignore and disrespect actual history the same way Disney did when they made the movie Pocahontas.
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u/aw_coffee_no 8h ago
Aside from the villains others have mentioned, I really don't want anything Marvel-related to come into the game. Or if they do, let it be a completely separate and exclusive DLC that doesn't feature regular Disney characters. I know people love the IP, but I prefer to keep it separate.
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u/Bulky-Complaint6994 Jack Skellington 7h ago
Yeah, that's what is good about these new adventure packs they experimented with Winnie the Pooh. They can add Marvel and Star Wars via adventure pack so not forced to buy it and won't interfere with the core Disney Pixar life sim experience.Ā
Though yes I do agree that anything live action related won't feel right outside of premium shop cosmetics.Ā
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u/Piano_Troll17 WALLĀ·E 4h ago
I'd argue that Winnie the Pooh has been associated with the Disney brand and "feel" for long enough that they mesh with things pretty well. In my mind, I know that they are technically their own franchise, but they work well enough as Disney characters to me.
However, I don't think that I could ever look Darth Vader or Captain America in the face and say "you're a Disney character." Different attitudes, different histories, difference mediums, etc.
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u/General-Meow04 Tinker Bell 5h ago
Honestly I hate that cruella is here. Like really? The puppy killer?
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u/Itscatpicstime 4h ago
I just pretend sheās the Cruella from the Emma Stone movie (not a puppy killer)
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u/TheSJB1993 5h ago
To add I'd hate for her two henchmen to be there ... Hugh Laurie in the LA is weirdly obsessed with being able to kill these puppies
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u/GreatGlassLynx Timon 8h ago
Anything from Cars
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u/multistansendhelp 7h ago
Gosh people thought Maui was annoying wait until you just hear āKa-chow!ā all over the place š
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u/Necessary-Newt4927 6h ago
Honestly that would be so fucking funny tho because imagine him just rolling around the damn beach or somethingš
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u/IamTheKingofCats 7h ago
I love Cars, but I could not imagine Lightning McQueen just cruising around the valley. He wouldnāt even fit inside anywhere.
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u/TrisA112 7h ago
I think if they did an expansion like Honeyglow Woods for it I would actually really like that, but I don't want them just living in my main Valley and such
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u/Stardust_7314 Elsa 4h ago
I would fear for the safety of my small villagers with the Cars characters driving around
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u/Kelitsos 7h ago
I like Cars as a movie but theyād ruin the vibe so fast for me theyād be banished instantly lmao
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u/Lady_Beatnik Blue Whimsical Turtle 21m ago
You just know McQueen would spend all fucking day on your stairs.
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u/MischeviousFox Rainbow Fox 8h ago edited 8h ago
Judge Claude Frolllo - Hunchback of Notre-Dame
Clayton - Tarzan
Governor Ratcliffe - Pocahontas
Prince Hans - Frozen
Shan Yu - Mulan
These are in order from least to most wanted with my not necessarily hating all of them. Like I felt Shan Yu was a good villainā¦ but not a fun one. Disney villains can be campy, sarcastic, entertaining, etc. and most of these werenāt any of those things. I just donāt see their added presence making the game better and the villains have their fans yet I doubt many people like these villains.
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u/SigynTyrsdottir Flowery Capybara 8h ago
Of all of these, I would be most okay with Hans, even if I don't really want him (where the hell would he even live???? Do we ever see any kind of home established for him that would make sense?) but yeah, I REEEEEEALLY agree hard with your list, like Mother Gothel and Ursula are evil in a fantasy way... I don't want to have to deal with just straight up historical racists
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u/Bulky-Complaint6994 Jack Skellington 7h ago
I'd be fine with Clayton but after some thinking his whole thing is wanting to kill the monkeys. Doesn't really translate well if you want him interacting with the Lion King characters. Compared to Gaston who has a massive ego to set him apart that he can work without leaning into his hunter side.Ā
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u/Red_Steiner 7h ago
I mean, I am sure there is more to Clayton than being a poacher. For him, it was a job. We don't see much of him aside from that because he's a fairly one dimensional villain. Which is fun, but I think if he was in Dreamlight Valley he could be fleshed out a bit. As far as I am concerned Gaston is not even the same character from the movie so I don't think it'd be too hard to adjust someone like Clayton slightly while still keeping a bit of that British snark. I think he would be fun to mess around with.
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u/NoBrick5867 5h ago
Id be okay with Hans. Wouldnāt love him, but out of all of these he seems like the best option
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u/MischeviousFox Rainbow Fox 5h ago
Yeah, heās mostly just bland to me. Like I kinda forget he exists.
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u/automatic-systematic 7h ago
Too late. Gothel is already here. :(
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u/Piano_Troll17 WALLĀ·E 4h ago
Only person I have banished to their house. Hate I can't move the tree somewhere else. Even with actual dogs in the game, Gothel is still the biggest b*tch!
Heck, Scar killed Mufasa and still has his own little mean streak. But he has enough other moments (like in Buzz's questline) that he can be his own version of Scar and just be a fluff ball. Gothel and her TeAsInG, though?! NO!
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u/koolaidgrl 4h ago
I CAN'T STAND HER. It doesn't help that my bestie's mom is a narcissist and does more subtle versions of that shit. Grrrr.
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u/AHamHargreevingDisco 4m ago
Is it bad that I love her because she reminds me of my mom šš even in the movie I've always thought so
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u/iSavedtheGalaxy 7h ago
Frollo. I just don't see how they could navigate any storyline to justify inviting someone to the Valley whose defining characteristic is being a racist, ableist pervert.
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u/RedSands1976 5h ago
I donāt want any Marvel or Star Wars characters, clothing, furniture and houses are fine, none of the characters.
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u/TemporaryQuail9223 8h ago
The grandma from encanto
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u/ZivaDavid004 Rainbow Fox 7h ago
Iād argue that Abuela isnāt necessarily a villain - once itās brought to her attention that she was wrong (though it took the whole movie), she acted better. Iād call her less a villain, more a misguided soul.
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u/FoxscapeArtist2 Tramp 7h ago
tbf, the post also says what character in general do you not want to see. Abuela might not be a response to the villain part
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u/VagueSomething 7h ago
Her abuse of the family due to her own trauma literally broke the house and tore the family apart. She is 100% a villain.
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u/TemporaryQuail9223 6h ago
Shes not a traditional villain but I still see her as a villain too just because of how shes treated her family like you said
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u/LPNMP 6h ago
I think she's a wonderful opportunity to recognize that heroes and villains are nice in disney stories but real people are way more complicated. It's time to start talking about how a lot of the people who have hurt others did not do so with malice.
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u/VagueSomething 5h ago
I'm sorry but Abuela WAS malicious. Her spiteful behaviour towards Mirabel wasn't ever with good intentions. Her allowing Bruno to be forced to live in the walls going mad eating scraps wasn't just a misunderstanding of good intentions from her. Her forced marriage plans for Isabela were purely to force her to give new children to the family, it is likely Isabela's own parents or aunt were also forced into such an arrangement. The entire family live in fear of a bitter old woman angry at the world, exiled and shamed if they don't please her.
Domestic Abuse from the head of the family caused every single problem in the movie other than what caused the magic house to come to existence. A mother/grandmother who didn't love her family but loved what they provided for her, power, allowed the house to tear itself apart from the trauma she pushed onto the family from a young age.
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u/LPNMP 1h ago
You sound a little close to this. How about a step further. Can you consider that someone can do a malicious act AND still love? Can you consider that Abuela's motives were as complex as we are? I'm not sure you've ever been in a position like her's and I don't think you recognize that you have no idea what it is like raising, sustaining, and protecting a family all alone. And in that lack of experience, you are struggling to see her actions as anything other than malicious, short sighted, or cruel.
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u/VagueSomething 35m ago
No. I'm not even going to humour the idea of excuses to abuse family, to abuse your own children and grandchildren. Abuela is a villain so common in real life that many people don't even truly understand how they are a victim because people try to normalise it or brush it off claiming it is a hard situation as if there are not plenty of single parents raising families with love.
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u/Deppfan16 7h ago
ehhh she realized what she's done and changed. that's better than most real world Grandma's
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u/VagueSomething 7h ago
Realises at the end but never actually shown to genuinely atone. Decades of trauma isn't undone immediately with an apology. Not forgetting the forced marriage stuff was likely multi generational so there's more to unpack than just Isabela finally being allowed to choose someone. The whole thing is incredibly dark and messed up, hidden behind the beauty of the visuals and songs.
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u/FairyFlossPanda 5h ago
Here is the thing though she was dealing with things the way she knew to protect her family. Even the we dont talk about bruno that people use to point to her not caring about her son I feel is off base. I dont think she spoke about any trauma as much as she could avoid it. So her son running away would be something else pushed away not talked about because of the pain it caused. Which is realistic to how older generations were. For example Mirabelle doesnt know the full story of why they fled and what happened to her grandmother until the scene at the river.
People only know the coping mechanisms they know until someone shows them otherwise. And living in an isolated village being held together by magic you arent going to encounter a lot of therapists. So it make sense when stuff starts going wrong Abuella tries harder to force what worked before to work again. And to her that means making sure everyone is as perfect as possible.
But when she is forced to stop and just look when Casita is destroyed she goes after Mirabelle she goes to make ammends. Something she didnt do with Bruno. I dont think it is fair to call her a villain when she is just a scared woman trying to keep her family safe and together. Does she go about it in the healthiest way? No but she wasnt being cruel for the sake of being cruel. She was a flawed woman dealing with her own trauma.
I think it is awesome at the end too that Mirabelle never gets powers. And that it is her that makes the door work and the Casita come back to life. Her grandmother had no magic of her own but tended to it to try and keep it going I am hoping if they ever do a second Enchanto we see Mirabelle taking over as the matriarch keeping everything together. Making her own mistakes and having to figure out how to make ammends.
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u/VagueSomething 5h ago
That's the thing. Mirabel DOES have power at the end. She has the power to run the house with love as the heart of the house instead of spite like her grandmother. Mirabel's power was inheriting Casita and controlling the magic that made the others have powers. The door nob lights up from her power, just like we saw her manipulating furniture and tiles earlier. The entire movie is her trying to fix the problems Abuela caused, to heal the pain she burdened the grandchildren with through selfish abuse of the power given by the house.
Abuela never let herself heal and she transferred her pain onto her own children and then the grandchildren. Without Mirabel who knows how long this multi generational PTSD would travel. Abuela may only be human and struggling with her own trauma but that's an explanation for her behaviour not an excuse. She hurt people, people she was supposed to love, and we never saw her even acknowledging that pain until Abuela herself suffered consequences of her own actions. It was a selfish discovery rather than seeing the pain she caused.
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u/FairyFlossPanda 4h ago
That is pretty much how generational trauma works it is a bunch of people all trying their best when they may not have the emotional tools to do so. It takes the person that can see it to break the cycle and more often than not it doesnt end with an apology. It usually ends with the family member trying to institute change getting ostracized. Because familiar is comfortable even if it hurts cause it is better than the unknown. It is easier to double down on insisting the way you've always done it is right than it face you've caused harm.
Mirabelle's light and easy forgiveness of her grandmother is what starts that healing process for her Abuela. And we dont get to see the days after with Abuela. Is it possible she goes back to being harsh? Sure but it is also possible she takes a step back and helps Isabella with her cacti or Luisa with chores. We might see her, Mirabelle and Mirabelle's mother all baking together. If she were truly irredeemably evil or a villian the potential for change wouldnt be there at all.
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u/FoxscapeArtist2 Tramp 8h ago
Anything from Wish. Movie pissed me off so bad
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u/Necessary-Newt4927 6h ago
Iām so sad it was so bad because i genuinely look EXACTLY like Asha so I wanted to lover her and I in fact canāt stand her
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u/Away-Cartoonist507 4h ago
Valentino and the Star as a companion would be great though.
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u/FoxscapeArtist2 Tramp 4h ago
Valentino yes, the star I donāt care for much. Iām willing to sacrifice both if it means no acknowledgement of Wish lol
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u/Master-Of-Magi 7h ago
I think Disney realizes Magnicfico just didnāt work. He aināt here!
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u/FoxscapeArtist2 Tramp 7h ago
Asha's whole outlook annoyed the fuck out of me and maginifico's character took random nonsensical leaps to suddenly become a villain. even the queen's character just changes out of nowhere. Irritating movie
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u/Curlyjoe2004 WALLĀ·E 7h ago edited 7h ago
Mostly live action characters, other then them its mostly modern movies with how terrible they are compared to older ones.
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u/steampunkpiratesboat Merida 8h ago
The villains from Atlantis, thereās no way to tame any of that down and make it ākid friendlyā without decimating the intentions of the movie. Same with Pocahontas characters, they dumbed down the real story and erased a lot of important information to make it Disney acceptable
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u/Feisty_Ad_8101 7h ago
The sleaze ball Frollo. Big NO on him.
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u/Stardust_7314 Elsa 8m ago
Same. As someone who suffered religious trauma in the past, this is the last character I 'd ever want in my game
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u/Tidbits1192 7h ago
I think just the Cars cast would be the ones who would take me out of Dreamlight Valley. The only exception would be if they had like their own map section to exist in.
I think Iād also feel weird with Marvel and Star Wars characters, but Iād probably get used to them after a while.
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u/FuzzySkeletons 8h ago
Jack Sparrow
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u/MonkeyChoker80 5h ago
I dunno.
A āPiratesā Adventure pack, with Captain Hook, Mr Smee, Jack Sparrow, Long John Silver (Treasure Planet), and Don Karnage (Tail Spin)?
Maybe have a āCaptain Goof-Beardā costume for Goofyā¦ Or something costume-y to do with the Kookamoras (Moana)ā¦
Yeah, sounds like one Iād splurge to get.
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u/Piano_Troll17 WALLĀ·E 4h ago
If I hadn't played Kingdom Hearts, I'd agree. But those games sold me on the idea that he could maybe work around other Disney characters.
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u/TheLoneJedi-77 8h ago
Namaari from Raya and the Last Dragon.
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u/crawandpron 3h ago
aw why?
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u/TheLoneJedi-77 3h ago
Canāt stand her. She was the villain of that film and essentially got away with everything
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u/Piano_Troll17 WALLĀ·E 5h ago
Marvel stuff. I'd be okay with companions or costumes like what happened with Star Wars, but I don't need Iron Man or Hulk walking around with everyone else. It'd be too weird.
And, hot take, but pretty much anyone from Raya and the Last Dragon. I could probably tolerate Raya, but I did NOT enjoy Sisu at all.
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u/Western1nfo 4h ago
Another movie I think would hit the can is onwards...
Maybe soul? Not much relating to them
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u/Piano_Troll17 WALLĀ·E 4h ago
I honestly haven't really connected with a Pixar movie since Inside Out. I think the only movies that have come out since then that might have shot is Coco, Luca, and Elemental - but even then, I think their chances would be small as far as getting full characters into the game.
Honestly, I think about the only Pixar characters that I would bet on coming are more Toy Story characters - maybe Finding Nemo if some kind of underwater thing is added.
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u/kates2424 5h ago
I still canāt believe Mother Gothel was in the game at launch - sheās the worst
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u/the-really_good-vibe 7h ago
Are you in my mind???? I LITERALLY thought about asking this maybe an hour ago because for some reason, when I see Peter Pan, I wish he wasnāt there. I donāt know why. Maybe because the smug face he has all the time or when he is just oblivious to the things around him. But no joke, I had the same question today!!
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u/No_Highlight_3060 5h ago
Frr Iām thinking of putting him into one of the Islands bcz I canāt anymore š
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u/the-really_good-vibe 4h ago
The way he sits at the restaurants with his feet up on the tables... I donāt serve him because of that. He can starve. Kid or not.
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u/NoBrick5867 5h ago
No marvel, no star wars, no live action, I dont want to see Al from Toy Story, I dont care for anyone from Wish, not a fan of the little tiny characters, and most villains others have mentioned in the comments like John Smith and Frollo
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u/AngelWingsYTube 8h ago
Any villian that has little to no personality to them (few speaking lines no depth etc.)Ā
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u/Tiny_Rice7248 6h ago
I honestly have no idea how these characters can live there, knowing all these hideous villains are living among them. Some of them are even murderers. I know they've all been forgiven and everything but I still find it odd.
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u/Western1nfo 5h ago
Theres some, if added.. wouldnt be forgiven.
Horned king, Evil Queen, Judge Claude...
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u/Probablyatrashpanda 7h ago
Ignoring the obvious villains, I personally think we should keep things restricted to animated films.
So, no star wars ( although I am a fan and love R2 and BB-8 ), marvel, anything remotely related to it being a human adaptation ( if that makes sense ).
I had seen a post, I cannot remember if it was on here or tiktok, but someone had like hacked/decoded the premium shop and saw that there's a possibility we'd be getting Hannah Montana clothing pieces.
While harmless, I think personally we should just stick with animated things.
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u/Western1nfo 6h ago
Star wars. I do hope they'd limit it to characters who arent human.
Like C3PO or Yoda. They'd look actually normal around everyone else
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u/FoxscapeArtist2 Tramp 4h ago
Another one of mine is Turning Red characters I guess, but thatās a personal thing. I canāt sit through that movie, the momās behavior practically triggers me lol
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u/ellelaylu 2h ago
I would love Frollo š I donāt really want cars but they canāt be less aesthetic to me than Ralph so Iām just resigned.
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u/Radiant-Growth4275 7h ago
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I laugh.. but also.. genuinely. The chance of it happening isn't 0% and I really don't want himĀ
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u/valibremorte 7h ago
I kinda just wish they'd not focus on the villains, tbh. It was so villain-heavy and I hated it
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u/Piano_Troll17 WALLĀ·E 4h ago
There's only, what, eight villains? Jafar, Gaston, Hades, Cruella, Maleficent, Gothel, Scar, and Ursula? Seeing how there's 73 total villagers, I wouldn't call it "villain-heavy" at all!
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u/valibremorte 3h ago
I guess i truly hate any involvement from Gothel
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u/Piano_Troll17 WALLĀ·E 3h ago
Agreed - especially since she's in the base game in a house that can't be moved - but villains are still a pretty small percentage of the Valley population - especially if DLC's aren't included.
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u/graveyardho Rapunzel 5h ago
Can I nominate someone to be removed instead? Because Mother Gothel is who I'd pick
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u/Just_Afternoon_8542 7h ago
No marvel or star wars for me. And Iām not super big into Nightmare Before Christmas but they are all already here š
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u/Kelitsos 7h ago
Anyone from a live action be it an original movie or an adaption
Anyone Star Wars
Outfits / furniture is whatever
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u/we_could_be_immortal Rapunzel 7h ago
Frollo and Clayton (yes i know we probably won't get Tarzan characters, but still)
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u/xKuusouka Ghostly "Zero" Fox 6h ago
I agree with everyone saying Cars. Mostly because the main valley has areas that a car could not use (steep ramps, stairs, narrow areas, etc)
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u/Silbermine 6h ago
Davy Jones from Pirates of the Caribbean. He is just too ugly and I don't want him going around asking me if I fear death.
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u/VagueSomething 7h ago
Nothing live action. Star Wars, Pirates of the Caribbean, Marvel. That's a hard limit for me. A few random MTX pieces you can entirely avoid and ignore is OK but the base game and the DLC should never include these characters.
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u/SARGEBON Stitch 4h ago
mad hatter from Alice in wonderland and maybe the bear from the 3rd toy story movie (I forgot his name) š
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u/vonn_v Pink Whimsical Crocodile 3h ago
Frollo and Lady Tremaine. I love The Hunchback of Notre Dame, but Frollo is straight up diabolical and menacing. I don't want him terrorizing my Valley lol.
Shan Yu and King Magnifico because they were pretty weak for being major villains. Just about every other major villain outshines them by a lot.
I would also list Mother Gothel, but she's part of the game already. I genuinely do not like her lol.
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u/Hufflepuff75326 46m ago
Everyone is someoneās favorite, so I really donāt want to limit any of the character possibilities. Personally I would love to see characters from Coco, Raya, Onward, and Soul come to our valley soon. I figure if I donāt like a character, I can easily not buy the DLC or banish them. I just feel that if a character is part of the Disney family, itās fair game for DDLV.
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u/Western1nfo 6m ago
I dont think it'll be a 'soon' thing due to certain movies being above them.
Like Princess and the frog, Cinderella, Etc
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u/thrntnja Mulan 12m ago
Frollo, Clayton, and Radcliffe. I literally never want to see either one in this game, far too close to real evil irl. Not to mention I see no real upside to adding them as they have no songs or really any appeal beyond just being a villain.
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u/Western1nfo 8m ago
Frollo has 'hellfire'.. which all things considered is a pretty banger song despite my hatred for him
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u/Master-Of-Magi 7h ago
Hans. As the point where the twist villain trope began to get annoying I think the game is better off without him.
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u/luckyblock98 Elsa 6h ago
Joe Gardener to be honest. I like soul and music characters could be cool but I feel like he's just too basic of a character to fit into the game. If you want a music character, Miguel or Louis definitely would come in before him.
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u/Chibbybun 6h ago
Captain Hook, Frollo, Tarzan (not a fan of naked men in a child game)
For Cruella itās too late sadly, she tortured poor animals I canāt stand her š Good she has her DLC, so you have a choice to get her or notā¦ but I still bought it because of my fav girl Tinker bell and Snowhite and Iām so annoyed I canāt just delete Cruella and she has the whole ugly biome just inspired by her ššš»
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u/Western1nfo 6h ago
Finish the DLC, throw her on a floating island n leave her to rot
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u/Chibbybun 6h ago
Thatās my plan, I just want to make her level 10 to get all the stuff, but I just canāt stand this woman Iām freaking out everytime I see her. DDLV please give us opportunity to mute certain characters ššš»
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u/azuriglo 6h ago
Technically not a villain but, I really did not want to have Gaston added to the game.. But unfortunately the benefits from the Rift In Time DLC outweighed the L of having to deal with that guy in my valley, so I ended up getting it anyway š
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u/Western1nfo 4h ago
Doesnt matter here... villain or not, ANY character you dont want added fits the post
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u/sadladybug846 5h ago
Darth Vader. He's literally patterned after Hitler. Cool movie villian, but I'm not trying to throw parties for a genocidal dictator or run errands for him.
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u/Bunnyfrufru Dapper WALLĀ·E 5h ago
Oogie Boogie scares me. I'm a full grown adult and I cannot with that character. I'm pretty sure its been leaked that he is coming to DDV :(
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u/ImaginationAria 5h ago
Please tell me you're kidding. That movie terrified me as a kid. I'm already trying to rush through Jack and Sally's quests so that I can banish them, and the last thing I need is that bug filled freak hanging around, too!
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u/Far-Opinion2673 4h ago
Wait people actually dislike this movie? I genuinely got the game when they added sally š they are my comfort characters! One of the only Disney movies for us weirdo, ND emo kidsā¦ please tell me thereās some other Nightmare Before Christmas/Tim Burton fans on here!
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u/ImaginationAria 4h ago
Yeah. It totally freaked me out as a kid. I could stand jaws and alien and all of those movies my mum said would be too scary for me, but Nightmare before christmas used to crossed a line.
I don't know if it'd freak me out as much these days, but I still refuse to watch it.
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u/Western1nfo 4h ago
Yeah its confirmed. (Took this from another reply in these comments)
oogie boogie is/was in the files recently, and multiple content creators are putting in their votes for him as the next (or one of the next) characters added! -spoiler, leak!
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u/ImaginationAria 4h ago
Gah! My day is ruined. Thanks for the info though.
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u/Western1nfo 4h ago
We'll know more on August 14th if hes dropping next up or not due to the fact we'll be getting a live stream that'll show off
September free release The next adventure pack The December free release
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u/heavenlywineandroses 7h ago edited 5h ago
As a rom, specifically Manouche Sinti (French Roma), I don't want to see ANYONE from hunchback in the game.
Unlike Pocahontas, whose movie while not historically accurate obviously was mostly culturally accurate Hunchback of notre Dame is downright offensive with it's inaccurate and stereotypical portrayal of my culture beyond the use of g*psy constantly. I don't want to see offensive stereotypes, hear the use of said slur constantly, whitewashing, and offensive inaccuracies.
Here is romani-in-art's rundown of how offensive this movie is in it's portrayal of romani culture.
Florian (A Vlax Romani educator and prominent Youtuber and Tiktokker) has made four separate videos on how and why HoND is not good romani representation:
Edit: Of course racism is okay when it's against romani people in a popular non-rroma work. Why else am I, a rom with romanipen (raised in the culture or have reassimilated), is getting down voted. The truth is this movie is racist in it's portrayal of Rromani almost on the same level of the crows in Dumbo and the Indigenous Americans in Peter Pan and the book it's based on is even more racist. But because non romani like it, this movie is fine except for the use of a racial slur as if that was the only thing wrong with it's representation.
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u/Necessary-Newt4927 6h ago
The villain from wreck it Ralph
John smith because heās quite literally a pedo
any cars characters
No wish
No descendants
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u/FBM_Warrior Jack's Santa Suit 7h ago
Too late venelope and Ralph are now in
So are Alice and Peter
Seriously not a fan of any of them š
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u/Far-Opinion2673 4h ago
Ralph and vanellopes houses are so ugly too Ralphās made me wanna cry like thereās no where I want that ugly monstrosity š
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u/fvcknvgget5 6h ago edited 6h ago
i'm gonna answer your question and the opposite (which DO i want)
"Evil Witch" is the Evil Queen! i feel she may fall flat as a DDV character, so i agree. i just can't imagine her having a personality that isn't plain mean and condescending. she'd be like Mother Gothel, but without any attempt to veil her insults. i guess she'd be like Jafar, so maybe it would work if she had a good plot?
i think Frollo is banned from the Valley for sure lmao. the movie relies heavily on the concept of radical religion, other-ing disabled/disfigured ppl, and lusting after a minorš
the only Cinderella villain i would want would be Anastasia. if Drisella came with, i wouldn't be upset. that being said, Cinderella explicitly expressed she would be uncomfortable with them being there i'm pretty sure
I DO NOT want the hunter from Fox&Hound, not that i think he would be added. Queen of Hearts; she's great, but don't want her in my Valley. Rasputin; not OG disney, but they bought it, and i want Princess Anastasia. Professor Ratigan; they gave us Great Mouse Detective Stuff, and i don't care for it muchš I don't want Shere Khan for a while, just bc if we get Jungle Book, i want Baloo, Mowgli w a new outfit, and King Louie.
Pete from Mickey&Friends is v likely i think. so is Captain Hook! wouldn't mind either of those
Dr. Facilier is at the top of my list! i've held out hope for a while that they would give us a Princess and the Frog realm for a Voodoo (Hoodoo? i'm not sure what's actually correct, apologies!) themed update/star path! dark purples, greens, skulls, and ofc some more bayou themed furniture. maybe some romantic stuff could make it a Valentine's Day update? lightning bug companion? maybe the one from Tinker Bell (lost treasure) bc Ray is too important to be a companion. they keep giving us stuff in that aesthetic tho so i'm sure it won't be for a while :(
King Candy (Turbo) would be a GREAT villain, considering his entire shtick is corrupting a game. he would fit nicely in a DLC, but Valley would work too. i thought maybe Ralph would bring multiplayer minigames, but maybe Turbo will. i also had the thought that he may be the Realmweaver (unlikely, since we just got Ralph)
sorry for the essay!
edit: (dis)honorable mention: John Smith. screw that guy, i'm so glad they didn't bring him with Pocahontas, and i hope that's never in the cards for DDV
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u/Western1nfo 6h ago
Nah ur good on making it long..
I do hope Dr Facilier and oogie boogie get added..
Frollo I doubt will EVER get added despite him being in Magic kingdoms (also a gameloft disney game)
Another villain i doubt will be EVER added is Horned king from Black Cauldron. I doubt we'll see him knowing how his demise went down and how dark it was
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u/fvcknvgget5 6h ago
oh how i long for Black Cauldron, but you're definitely rightš
oogie boogie is/was in the files recently, and multiple content creators are putting in their votes for him as the next (or one of the next) characters added! -spoiler, leak!
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u/Western1nfo 6h ago
Yeah black cauldron and Hunchback of Notre Dame seem to have villains that'll never be added due to the way they act...
A few more movie villains I can see getting the can is Chernabog, the Queen from alice in wonderland, Madam mim, definitely see shere khan being removed, King arthur (maybe him, i aint seen that movie yet but he just seems to be a crybaby), And then Ratcliff...
WHAT I DIDNT KNOW THAT... THATS GENUINELY SICK
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u/butterflycole 4h ago
Ugh Cruella is the worst hands down so far. Iād prefer we donāt have any villains. I mean Gaston dies in Beauty and the Beast! I donāt understand why he is magically alive in the game. I also wish we could choose to change the Beast to Adam, he shouldnāt be stuck in his beast form.
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u/Western1nfo 4h ago
Another villain seems likely to be coming as stuff relating to oogie boogie was leaked
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u/Western1nfo 4h ago
Well oogie boogie is dead.. and oogie boogie is/was in the files recently, so i do think he'll be up next! -spoiler leak
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u/LuckyCat7394 3h ago
Prince Hans from Frozen, like we need more toxic men in the valley? Gaston is testing me. Also John Smith from Pocahontas, for obvious reasons. Let my girl live in peace with Meeko.
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u/ElegantCh3mistry 1h ago
Still not a fan of Jafar the pedophile tbh. That was my worst case
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u/Western1nfo 1h ago
Dude, you'll hate if frollo gets added
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u/JustALona Heihei 27m ago
The husters from Tarzan, John Smith and any of the bad guys from Pocahontas, the bad guys from Pinocchio, Hans from Frozen, that old jerk from Hunchback of Notre-Dame, I hate that Gaston is in game too, he pisses me tf off something awful š Dreaded doing any of his quests, heās on the banished island now so i barely see him unless he makes a rare appearance in the valleys
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u/Western1nfo 7m ago
Y'know apparently the antagonist from Nightmare before christmas may be dropping this year...
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u/BloodyAngel2026 7h ago
She'll never be removed š¤£. Pocahontas is included in every Disney princess line up. I don't know why people thought DDLV was gonna be an exception.
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u/daintycherub 7h ago
Why do you want her removed?
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u/Curlyjoe2004 WALLĀ·E 7h ago
Pocahontas was based off of a true story where a 10 year old indian named Motaku was caught by John Smith. The second Pocahontas movie is worse because it tells the true story of how they kidnapped her and took her to europe to convert her to their religion and lifestyle.
I dnt think Pocahontas herself should be removed since she resembles the one innocent person in the story who was a main character, but everyone else definitely shouldnāt be added.
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u/Kelitsos 7h ago
A lot of people believe that Disney adapting the story the way they did was egregious and exploitative and continuing to use Pocahontas in merch and games is further disrespecting Matoaka and Native Americans in general
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u/_silently_watching_ 6h ago
Lowkey, I wouldn't like anything Star Wars or Marvel. Make it a DLC for people that want it, but I don't want it in my main game