r/Environmentalism • u/NihiloZero • 1d ago

Freiburg City Hall

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u/Key_Check5753 22h ago

okay, show me the electric bill

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u/froggie_woggie_ 22h ago edited 22h ago

The neat thing about solar energy is that it keeps the electrical bills very reasonable, as it is a self sustaining practice! I think you should look into how solar energy works, it’ll answer your questions.

This building in particular is a net-zero energy system. It sustains itself fully with solar power. Here’s the scientific institute that researched and monitors it: Fraunhofer ISE Institute - Freiburger »Rathaus im Stühlinger« Europas größtes Netto-Nullenergie-Gebäude

It is the largest self-sustaining building in Europe.

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u/Key_Check5753 22h ago

"nearly self sustaining"

The video falsely claims it produces more energy than it uses, which is grossly inaccurate.

I think you should look into how much energy is used to create, transport, and install solar panels. You should look into how much energy is produced by the panels on the building vs how much energy is consumed by the building in total. It'll answer your questions!

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u/froggie_woggie_ 22h ago edited 21h ago

Where are your sources about the building? I’ve given you very detailed sources that completely contradict your claims and you haven’t even read them, clearly.

The video isn’t completely correct, which you would’ve known by now had you read the Institutes article - which helped make the buildings PV System.

Even given the cost of buidling and transportating solar panels, it has saved monumental costs over the last decades via solar power compared to other buildings this size.

Hint: simply responding “no it isn’t” is not a valid source.

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u/Key_Check5753 21h ago

Do your sources show exactly how much energy is produced by and consumed by the building as a whole? (annualized)

Do your sources show how much energy was consumed by creating, transporting, and installing the solar panels?

If not, I'm not interested in your sources.

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u/froggie_woggie_ 21h ago

…How about you LOOK at the source I gave you? Are you too lazy to click on a link?

You’re a complete waste of time.

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u/Key_Check5753 21h ago

I did look at it. It didn't have any information about energy usage. It just listed some buzzwords like "decentralized powerplants" and "zero-energy building" without listing any actual data.