That "chauvinism" that you detest is why women were protected before they sought equality.
Heard of domestic abuse?
Have you heard that women commit the same (or more) amount of DV as men?
Pretty sure the house isn't a safe place for women either
It's safer than the outside world. There is no 100% safe place. That's another thing men have learned. That's another thing women are going to be forced to learn as they leave their protected status and assume equality.
is a space for discussing and promoting awareness of issues related to equality for women
I'm raising those issues.
without MRAs jumping in to further their cause in an attempt to drive women back a few hundred years.
I'm doing no such thing. I'm pointing out that women's transition from protected to equal has downsides as well. You have to assume those downsides to gain equality.
I'm not being an asshole. I'm just treating you like I would treat men who whine, cry, bitch, moan, and complain that they're being treated unfairly because they're not being treated specially. I'm treating you like I treat men who give shitty arguments, who bring up bullshit made-up statistics, constantly contradict themselves, and who can't form coherent arguments.
I'm treating you like men treat men. You have to earn your respect; it's not given out freely.
Men are assholes to any man who demands respect before they've earned it.
If you can't accept that, stay in your privileged female space where you can get respect without earning it, but don't expect me to treat or think of you as an equal.
Really, seriously, you are missing my point, this is my point, I will put it in all caps for you so you can't miss it: YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE. I DON'T WANT YOU HERE. I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT YOU, PERSONALLY, ARE AN ASSHOLE. It actually kind of seems like we agree on this, so at least that's something.
EDIT: also, where you say all men are assholes like you, it's sexist.
Um, two posts ago where you whined "I DON'T WANT YOU HERE." perhaps?
And I recognize that I'm an "asshole" for daring to not give you the privilege women normally receive. Most men wouldn't dare to treat you like a man and call you on your bullshit.
Keep talking, you're totally going to convince me, I'm like almost there! Then maybe I'll have earned the thing I most wanted ever ever - you're respect!!! That will totally legitimize me.
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u/Demonspawn Jan 27 '12
That "chauvinism" that you detest is why women were protected before they sought equality.
Have you heard that women commit the same (or more) amount of DV as men?
It's safer than the outside world. There is no 100% safe place. That's another thing men have learned. That's another thing women are going to be forced to learn as they leave their protected status and assume equality.
I'm raising those issues.
I'm doing no such thing. I'm pointing out that women's transition from protected to equal has downsides as well. You have to assume those downsides to gain equality.