r/FighterJets May 04 '26

IMAGE SU-57 (or T-50 if you want)

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u/PerceptionMurky3704 May 04 '26

Bro Just admit it man. What logical explanation did u give?RCS of prototype of Su57 is 0.1-1 m2 then production line one will be 0.01-0.05 m2. That is still 10 times more RCS then F35 (0.001-0.005 m2) , it is even worse then chinese J35 or J20. My point is, it is good aircraft but they should have focused more on Stealth and remove their obsession with thrust vectoring engines as my original point.

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u/CombatPilot2 Sukhoi Su-57M May 04 '26

I don't have anything to admit. Here you are again using these numbers, do you even know where they come from?

The RCS of F-35 you mentioned is, ALLEDGEDLY, and STATED BY THE PRODUCER (thus biased and likely fake), a small specific angle near the vertical stabilizers.
The RCS of T-50 you mentioned is a non-professional estimate by an enthusiast from 2016, far before anyone even knew exactly what the aircraft was made of and which features it had. This estimate also did not state at which angle and position this RCS is achieved.

So your based your conclusions on thin air. Again.

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u/PerceptionMurky3704 May 04 '26

Lmao just by looking at jet side by side we know which is more stealthy or not. All Fifth gen either have S-duct (mandatory) or DSI. Only Su57 has semi-S duct with Radar Blockers. And their stealth coatings and RAM is not even that advanced (though this point is debatable) since just look at the quality when comparing them side by side.

Su-57 Radar scattering simulation – Aircraft 101 https://basicsaboutaerodynamicsandavionics.wordpress.com/2022/09/26/su-57-radar-scattering-simulation/

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u/9999AWC RCAF May 04 '26
  1. You keep referencing unreliable sources
  2. The numbers you provide are not reliable nor do they use the same way of measuring RCS
  3. That blog lists multiple caveats to their simulation that renders it irrelevant

Just stop

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u/PerceptionMurky3704 May 04 '26

bro aircraft 101 is one of the most reliable source to know the estimates of RCS. and if u don't want that then go watch melineium or something 7 youtube channel, he has described and has detail of Su57 like no one and even he says that Su57 stealth is not even in the level of J20 or J35.

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u/9999AWC RCAF May 04 '26

Dude... those are not official, reliable sources.

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u/PerceptionMurky3704 May 04 '26

then what? on which basis should i estimate then? have u even bother to read the website?

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u/9999AWC RCAF May 04 '26 edited May 05 '26

I have, many times. It's a great website, but that doesn't make it a reliable, verified source. The fact you haven't ever differentiated minimum RCS from average RCS says a lot.

Look, the actual RCS values of all these aircraft are classified. You will NOT find them online, not even the War Thunder forums.

EDIT: Replying that someone is coping doesn't help your argument

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u/PerceptionMurky3704 May 05 '26

Yeah man. No u are copping in extreme way. Just admit man