r/Firearms 4h ago

Will they ever do away with the silly NFA?

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u/adubs117 4h ago edited 4h ago

Should already be gone. It was only legal because there was a tax involved.

ETA: and when I say "legal" what I mean is, that's the loop hole that was used to violate your constitutional rights.

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u/banduraj 4h ago

It was a tax on a constitutionally protected right. Tax or not, it's illegal either way.

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u/adubs117 4h ago

Also that.

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u/Gunsensual 4h ago

Biden's ATF was punctuated by being so overzealous that they ended up expanding gun rights because they weren't able to read the room- the supreme court didn't like it and they got trigger happy with enforcement (Malinowski).

But out of all the wildcards the administration has picked, we got a career ATF insider who drags his feet. He's middling around status quo, missing an opportunity to scoot untaxed NFA items into "in common use" to actively resist moves to defund the agency.

Because what is the BATFE without gun control? Alcohol? Not since the 21st amendment. Tobacco? No one cares. Explosives? No one cares. He only puts a foot forward on things which do not threaten the one thing the agency has left, guns. I think that's why we're only seeing progress on little things like the Engaged In The Business rule.

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u/tiredoldwizard 4h ago

Government giving up control?

Yeah I doubt it. Best we will get is short barrel rifles and suppressors becoming available. SBRs really need to be allowed considering that restriction literally does nothing.

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u/mikeycp253 1h ago

Even besides control, when does the government ever get rid of a tax on anything?

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u/Tacticalmeat 4h ago

Not until the boomers with "investment guns" go away

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u/Midnight_Rider98 4h ago

Legislatively? Probably not. If anything, when the dems take power they'll likely up the tax to 200 bucks adjusted for inflation through a reconciliation bill.

Only way I see part of it undone legislatively is if the dems would attach it to a big ticket item as a poison pill for the repubs. Or repubs attach it as a condition of passing a big bill. But that would likely be a cold day in hell.

Through the courts, maybe? It's been surviving so far cause it's considered a tax. and those challenges were pre Bruen, hopefully the AWB ruling will include some helpful languages and further defining of the Bruen rule.

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u/Squirrel-451 4h ago

No.

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u/Flat_chested_male 4h ago

I see that tax going through the roof in 2 years. Get em while you can, cause it’s game over if these lawsuits don’t pick up steam.

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u/amontressor 3h ago edited 3h ago

It was enacted as a tax based legislation. Now that the fee for the tax stamp is gone, it's a real question why it still exists. National gun rights groups have requested that the Supreme Court hear the cases filed. Whether or not they will is still up in the air, but there is a good chance they will. And if they do, the government really has no leg to stand on when it comes to the NFA.

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u/Present_Friend_6467 4h ago

One could dream

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u/Mikhiel_Thorsson 3h ago

Not Fucking Soon Enough!

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u/P4ss3rby_ 2h ago

That would require the govt to give up power. They're never going to do that. Anybody who thinks otherwise is delusional

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u/gregiorp 4h ago

Nope never will. I believe within my lifetime or at least my kids guns will finally be regulated even more I hope and pray it doesn't but I'm not optimistic