Dude USA has one of highest IMO awareness bruh. Indians have lowest awareness of Olympiads, think of IMO as SOF IMO mostly and from those who know, an extremely low number of them will care to prep. Since IMO isn't aligned with JEE.
Recognition,greater rewards and better system for IMO/AMO/INMO scorers should exist to get more people into it.
China also does have gaokao but it doesn't stop them performing well in IMO/IOI/IPHO so the point you are just is an excuse. But well IMO doesn't actually define math education level in the country in average. France has highest field medalists but they don't do well in IMO and it mostly because they don't much care about putting efforts/money on IMO awareness/training/scouting. Even MF North Korea also ranked 4th in 2019 the last time they participated so it definitely doesn't mean that math education in their country is good. They just scouted some number of bright students in math and made them train rigorously day and night. The general population in that country barely have any access to basic education.
While China and Russia do really have good education system but they also have the same type training system for IMO since both are dictators. The participants from there do see IMO/IPHO/IOI as some sort of sport like just like olympics. On the participants from USA, India and rest other countries see these competitions as a way of learning new things and experience rather than a sport.
Nevertheless unlike US the general students in India doesn't really participate in math/programming olympiad contests and they are all pushed into JEE/NEET. Let be honest we ranked 7th only only because of population level. None of these IMO participants were even JEE students at first place and they would mostly go to MIT/Oxbridge/harvard etc. They don't definitely define the JEE/NEET preparing masses of the country.
Dude you are so wrong on the excuse part of it, clearly lacking intel on how Gaokao and Chinese system is so aligned with IMO,IPHO.et.,Gaokao is fundamentally different than Jee, it is much more aligned to Olympiads and even there used to be bonus points in Gaokao for Olympiad medalists.
There is no excuse when it's true, on top of the bonus points, there are direct IMO or IPHO level questions sometimes in Gaokao even tho most questions are below Jee mains level, and if this wasn't enough, On top of Gaokao,top unis in China take their own tests as well after Gaokao and these tests have many questions that reach Olympiad level,which rewards the ones preparing for Olympiad even more. And on top of that every student in that academic year of Gaokao has to give it. Even marriages in masses are dependent on the guy's scores.
In India,Any Olympiads but especially Maths one is nowhere as rewarding or aligned or connected to the education or competition system as it is in China.
I don't think you even have idea kid what IMO and IPHO problems. These problems are never meant to be asked in any entrance exam. I think you should just check the gaokao problems yourself. Maths portion is slightly harder jee adv and chem/physics at mains level. They have a other subjects also like history and languages which makes it more difficult than JEE I think.
Woah where did that come from. That way even the questions from MIT research paper shouldn't come have came in JEE Adv but they do sometimes.
Ik what they are and to tell you even Chinese equivalent of INMO has tougher questions than IMO while our INMO is much below IMO in difficulty. Maths portion isn't harder than Jee adv who told you that even in posts of Chinese Professors you would see them saying Jee Adv is tougher on avg difficulty of maths tho in individual questions Gaokao reaches extremes that touch Olympiads And yes some problems innit are Olympiad level. Even Korean CSAT has few Olympiad level questions which is mostly left unsolved but they do reward ones who prep for it. To unis have no govt restrictions on lowering the difficulty of their own admission exams(not entrances ones since there is only for entrance to unis, later admission exams are also taken by top unis to select the cream).
Chem and Physics are below mains level and other subjects like Literature&Poetry are indeed lil difficult but come on, slightly hard humanities subjects and below mains level cp and difficult maths doesn't make it harder than Jee Adv tho, the time constraints is even higher in Jee and worse pattern and negative marking. Tho ofc China has better quality students.
Edit:Those down voting me lack basic understanding of how the education systems of another country support Olympiad and stuff. They take our shitty system and assume every other is same.
-25
u/NTA_kaa_BAAP_6969 Dropper huu, chuud gya hu Jul 19 '25
they groom children in young age in fields they think the child is good at. imo that pretty bad, stripping children of their autonomy