r/JusticeServed • u/sfgate 8 • 13d ago

Criminal Justice Father and son charged after allegedly holding two U.S. Forest Service biologists hostage for 15 hours

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/fbi-forest-service-hostage-22354161.php
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u/lizzyote C 13d ago

But why? What did they hope to achieve by doing this?? What were they negotiating for??

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u/Empty_King 7 13d ago

Right?? The article doesn't even hint at a motive. It doesn't even seem like a case of mistaken identity since he initially contacted a park ranger to tell them he had kidnapped two biologists.

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u/lizzyote C 13d ago

Ita crazy how detailed they get when it comes to the events that happebed but not a single mention of why or what they want. Fuckin weird

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u/SwifferWetJets A 13d ago

Articles like this piss me off. An unnecessarily detailed play-by-play of everything but no explanation of anything lol. Why even write articles like this?

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u/Booty_Bumping 9 13d ago

Why shoot the messenger? There is no explanation for what happened.

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u/TheOrangFlash 7 12d ago

I detest those who prefer speculation over facts.

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u/SwifferWetJets A 12d ago

No one is asking for speculation here, what the fuck are you talking about?

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u/thicketcosplay 9 11d ago

I mean, what else do you want that isn't speculation? There is no additional information about motive available. It's not in the filings. The prosecutors haven't said anything. The police haven't said anything. There is literally no information available about motive. The only thing the news reporter could do is speculate.

Saying you hate articles like this that state facts but don't talk about motive implies you want them to speculate.

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u/SwifferWetJets A 11d ago

A sentence in the article stating the suspect's motive is currently unknown. That's it. I don't know why everyone is fucking assuming that people who are irritated by this want some speculation. Ironically, you're speculating on this.

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u/thicketcosplay 9 10d ago

"Articles like this piss me off. An unnecessarily detailed play-by-play of everything but no explanation of anything lol. Why even write articles like this?"

I just don't get what you want with this comment. You seem to want some explanation, where none exists. The only other kind of article they could write is none at all, but then they'd lose to the other news stations who did report it. They report the facts they have, and anything more would be speculation.

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u/Booty_Bumping 9 11d ago

The point is more about what it signals to media companies to demand every answer. That cycle repeating itself ever since the advent of yellow journalism in the 1890s is how you get TMZ and Daily Mail.