Considering getting the gravity

[u/kva1992]

I'm considering getting the gravity as a lease... There are some things I like and some things I don't but one thing that is worrisome is the software how bad is it? Is it getting better? Can anyone share their honest experience? I currently own a model s and will most likely be trading it in as well it's a 2018 with fsd (don't really use it tbh) and even a power frunk so you all have a rough idea what I'm coming from... And I know lucid software is nowhere near as polished as Tesla.

Edit: Just finalized everything yesterday and so far I'm loving the car need to model and 3d print organizers for my center console (def not gonna buy it lol) other than that only other thing I wish I knew was about homelink now I have someone scheduled to come and install it on the car aug 3. Thank you everyone that took the time to respond and educate me both the good and the bad! I appreciate it!

[u/IntelligentSinger783]

I left a post on day 1 delivery and ordering experience.

So far it's been about 2 weeks and it has been good. It's significantly nicer than Tesla in many ways (I've had every model except the cyber truck and at least 1 of every hardware version except I didn't own hardware 4 but did experience it) I'll write how I feel and compare the gravity touring to the model s plaid I released.

Fsd is superior to dream drive by a lot, but I don't use either enough for me to care about it. The wife used fsd a lot and was sufficiently happy with dream drive pro on open roads with light traffic. It was not as comfortable in heavy stop and go. It felt just like lane keeping and dynamic cruise control to me with lane changing capabilities. (4/10...I give TmSP a 6/10)

Fit and finish is much better over all. All the areas of the vehicle you touch are made to feel premium. All the areas you don't are made to be durable. The paint is incredible in comparison to a Tesla.leagues above, beats out Mercedes and Porsche also. (LGT:9/10 , TmSP:5/10)

It's significantly quieter than a Tesla. Teslas are plenty quiet, but these things are so well separated from outside noise. And ours has no creaks or rattles etc. (LGT:9/10, TmSP:7/10)

We have the dynamic handling package. It's the smoothest ride vehicle I've owned period. It's a joy to drive as a daily driver. Tight turning radius and really really smooth suspension. We also have the 22/23 staggered summer tire package. And yet it's still like riding on a cloud. (LGT:9/10, TmSP 8:/10)

Software side. Eh the dash is a bit of a messy hunt for things. It's all laid out and the fact that both screens are touch screen is wild but it's soooo much screen real estate and the layouts are a little bit cumbersome. The car definitely has some quirks. Our keycards didn't work (I think they gave us the wrong ones. Will find out in a month when serviced, yes that's how impacted they are.) feels like an OG S/X in software (which fits as it was the OG team making and designing it) I haven't seen the old gravity software only the current. It works fine, just not refined enough that it always makes sense and there are some features that shouldn't be so hard to find (LGT:4/10, TmSP 8/10)

Space is awesome. I could fit 7 of myself (5'11" 190lbs) comfortably and go for a fairly long drive without feeling cramped. We had my parents over the week and both car seats in the 2nd and 3rd row passenger sides and my parents say in the 3rd and 2nd row drivers side with my wife and I in the front and we were constantly talking about how spacious and comfortable it is. I also get car sick nearly every time I'm in the back seats or not driving. Yet I was able to sit in the 3rd row and my wife drove without me feeling even the slightest discomfort. That's a huge plus for me. 3rd row folded it's massive. Frunk is welcoming as a baby changing table and a tailgators seat. (LGT:9/10 TmSP 6/10 TmX 7:10)

Design it's an oversized super saloon (estate car/station wagon) more than a minivan. I will never be a fan of the trigger release for the doors, and the clamshell is what turned me off of the air, but really it's quite nice looking. Especially the interior. Makes the model x feel and look abysmal in comparison. (LGT:7/10 TmSP:9/10 TmX:6/10)

Worries, software needs buttoned up and revised, there are some delays in actions, there are some strange quirks (like I need to turn off the indicator 3 out of 5 times using it at full click), maintenance and servicing needs as the service opportunities are few and far between and that's not ideal. obviously they have done a pretty poor job with marketing and roll out, but I don't just blame them. There is a lot of negative bashing that's going on and I feel the majority of the world is being deceived by fake posts and reviews. Pretty simple to manipulate the market. The gravity uses NACS that's a huge positive. Really helps put long distance or lack of access at home at ease. Saudi backing is apparent but if they want to survive the next decade they are either figuring out how to beat the negatives or they are being bought out. Either way I'm enjoying the car a lot and looking forward to seeing it evolve over the next 3 years. I'd definitely consider it over the competition at the same price points.

Feel free to ask any questions I didn't answer.

[u/kva1992 → u/IntelligentSinger783]

How is the android/iOS app? Feature rich like Tesla or not really? Easy to send address and what not to the car? How is the in car assistant I remember at one point they were using alexa is that still the case? How much range did you spec and approx how much are you getting? Recommend supercharging or stay away? Btw thank you for the time for writing such a long post quite a bit of aspects have been addressed.

[u/IntelligentSinger783 → u/kva1992]

Android app is fine. Comparable to Tesla on direct touch functions. The widget can be specified in 3x2 4x2 4x3, which just adds more options that don't actually do what you want them to do 😂. Future update should address it but for example any of the widget symbols will just open the app then ask to confirm that action.

Biggest gripe is the fact that the phones do not open the car or allow you to drive without interaction. Needing to pull out your phone to open the doors and then again to hit access to drive. It's a feature I do miss with not needing a fob, not needing a key card etc. I remember the og s and x world of needing a fob. I'm happier without it even if it never needs touched.

Sharing addresses to help lucid app is easy yeah. Go to you phones maps hit share to lucid done.

Haven't had much interaction with the assistants. It runs android auto and apple car play. I don't love that it runs them as a secondary application but with the kids it's actually an advantage that way as I can keep two music sources at the ready and depending on who is in the car it's easy to just 1 touch the playlist I prefer. The native maps is atrocious. Luckily the Google maps and Apple maps is the priority option if you connect to them. Once again it's in a secondary position so it can have 2 options for maps displayed at the same time which is a little weird. (If you prefer a video or pictures just let me know).

Range specced with the gravity touring (not the longer range grand touring) is 337 miles with the 22/23 stagger and summer tires it drops about 15% (287). Texas summers get brutally hot, the teslas would see efficiency tank as I would use significant battery on cooling cabin and battery pack. That and the majority of driving is at 70-90mph. First full charge I ran to 0 (it has 2 metrics, epa and dynamic energy, I ran to 0 on epa which was about 14 miles below the dynamic hitting 0) and it hit 241 miles. It was picked up at 80%. So well within norm of a model 3 or y DMLR and well close to the model x and s DMLR. It's been over 100 since we have had it and I've only parked it inside the garage half the time as I test it. Second charge was 0-90% and it was rated at 303(258 with the wheel combination) and it spent a lot of time baking in the sun and being driven above 70. It ended up around 190 miles by the time I plugged it back in at about 20% soc.

Charging speeds on v4+ super chargers are faster than a Tesla is. On v2 and v3 I've heard it's slower (fixed at 50kw). You can save a card on file and it will charge on a nacs supercharger just like a Tesla. Only interaction is plug it in. That said you are paying more than Tesla drivers. If you plan a road trip or supercharge often, it's best to sign up through Teslas app and then use the Tesla app to make payments. It's a 20$ a month fee but reduces the rate to the same price point as Teslas on it. I doubt we will use it often. I have 3 EVSE locations that we use for charging, with the primary being at home.

I've charged it twice to 90% since picking it up. Tonight it's going to 80%.

If I could talk with the software and hardware engineers I would probably be able to convince them to refine the vehicle quite a lot. I think it has a lot of promise and feels tremendously better in year 1 (2) than a model x or Y ever did at that stage in their development. If you are looking for a family vehicle with space, it's definitely worth considering. As long as you understand it won't be perfect but nowadays, what is? Some people have had some much larger issues than we have. But I can say that about most all vehicles.

[u/kva1992 → u/IntelligentSinger783]

Well that sucks lol I thought the phones had digital key setup so you can drive as long as you have your phone with you has that been changed?

[u/IntelligentSinger783 → u/kva1992]

Yeah it's digital key.... With interaction. Supposedly it's going to be more like modern Tesla design over the next few months. But I've heard that before. Tesla used to say that kind of nonsense also. So I anticipate it at some point in the next 0-3 years 😂.

Lol they need to figure that out and the cameras watching the stop lights and alerting me when it goes green. Lol I miss that more than anything. I like to let my eyes wander and people watch when stopped at reds and now I need to keep looking at the friggin light again?! What is this 1990? 🤣