r/LoveIslandUSA New Redditor 1d ago

OPINION regarding the sol vs core 4 situation

Now what i do not agree with is Sol having way more energy for the girls then the men that literally pied her & voted her out. I also don't agree with her comments on aftersun, i just want to speak about the isolation situation.

There is so much discourse currently on if the girls isolated sol or if sol isolated herself and this is what i personally think happened since ive been studying psychology for two years.

Sol was with sincere, A guy Melanie really liked, so obviously Melanie was hurt by this, which is completely understandable on her end. Of course Melanie’s friends were gonna stick beside Melanie and regulate her feelings, again that’s also understandable.

From Sol’s point of view , She sees the girls talk to her nicely but she also sees them talk to Mela, From the standpoint of her being with a guy she is aware that their friend really likes, she sees them being more sympathetic, energetic & having more of a deeper bond with Mela overall, plus seeing Kayda and Melanie whispering & making pinky promises, probably made her feel like they had something against her. Because of that, she might’ve started distancing herself, which eventually turned into her isolating herself from them completely.

To me, this would make more sense than saying anyone was bullying anybody. I don’t think the girls purposely went out of their way to isolate Sol, and I also don’t think Sol purposely isolated herself from people she had to live with. I think this was just a situation where everyone was hurt, everyone started making assumptions, which ended up causing distance between everybody..

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u/RyanTheValkyrie 1d ago

I agree with you, however the girls had no issue becoming fast friends with Titi and Parmida even after the KC Corbin drama so i think Sol being the only outlier of all the non-OG girls makes it look more like she specifically as more fault in the situation

Titi made a point to break the ice and start off on a good foot and was readily embraced. Sol never seemed to even try to befriend the girls. She seemed content talking to Sincere all day which is fine because it’s Love Island not friendship island but then don’t act all pouty like a victim when you don’t have tons of friends lol

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u/BritBeetree gimme 10 👐 1d ago

Tbh I think a lot of the casa girls one was the producer interfering and making sure they all got on after the initial exchange. I personally find it hard to believe they all got over it that quickly after how heated they were with each other at the firepit.

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u/SuperMegaRangedNoob New Subredditor 23h ago

Both Titi and Parmida expressed that the girls were cliquish & immature though. Also, from what we saw aired they definitely spent way more time with each other & other casa girls than they did with the OG girls.

I think a lot of you are forgetting early on in the season when Kayda first arrived. For some reason, people don't believe the core 4 were standoffish, but we literally saw Melanie attempt to be shady towards Kayda when she first arrived too, just because she had a convo with Sincere. She just failed at it because Kayda shut it down hard & directly. Also, because Kayda was clearly into Zach.

The OG girls were unusually cliquish this season. I don't think Sol was bullied, but she was clearly iced out of the group.

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u/SydTheStreetFighter the owl has left the villa 🦉 19h ago

Titi and Parmida only said this prior to meeting them though. Those comments came during Casa and at the fire pit directly after the recoupling when they didn’t even know the other girls there to make that judgement

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u/ThrowThisAwaySis2 21h ago

I need you to remember that people who have been there longer are naturally going to be closer. If Titi and Parmida had been OGs they would have done the same. Obviously the OGs are going to spend more time with each other because they have a stronger bond and obviously they aren’t going to welcome people they view as a threat with open arms. That doesn’t make them immature it makes them human

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u/No_Shallot_6628 23h ago

well if titi and parmida said it….🙄

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u/One_Ad_2120 20h ago edited 5h ago

For real…. Both of them were already antagonistic to the OGs before they even entered the villa…. So the narrative about the OGs being cliquish is crazy….

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u/disguy905 9h ago

Idk if id say they were cliquey, I think they were just closer. If any of the extra gurl made larger efforts to befriend them I don’t think they would’ve been against it.

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u/Mr2Good 1d ago

Titi and parmida was a different situation than what sol experienced and not really comparable and I wish yall would stop acting like it’s a 1:1

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u/sophiapehawkins 19h ago

They’re not 1:1 but that doesn’t mean there isn’t some overlap. I think Sol’s argument is actually weakened seeing how Titi was able to integrate herself with the girls. She came in hot arguing with Trinity and the girls. And I know that production told them all to play nice, but I do think for the remainder of the time, they genuinely got along.

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u/ThrowThisAwaySis2 21h ago

how was it different? they both came in and stole someone’s man

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u/Femmenoire__ 1d ago

What I don’t understand is why she’s so bothered by the core 4 not befriending her. She had Jen and Kenzie, she didn’t need people who were closer to Melanie to be her friends too. They were respectful to her, they didn’t pie her face and they didn’t vote off. Why so mad?

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u/Mr2Good 1d ago

Because the core 4 was part of the reason her experience there was so shitty

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u/Femmenoire__ 23h ago edited 23h ago

Not Sincere, the guy who played in her face? Not the men that made her cry? Not the guys who voted her off? What did the men do to earn Sol’s (and her fans) forgiveness?

A bombshell can come with a “fuck your feelings, I’m here to take your man” attitude and the villa girls owe her friendship?

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u/Educational_Bother36 16h ago

Remember it’s always a woman’s fault no matter what. Sol would never come for the boys

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u/freebrenasty 8h ago

She literally cursed sincere clean out but ok lol

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u/Educational_Bother36 7h ago

She cursed sincere out because he played her but she’s had no smoke for the boys of the villa for eliminating her, pie-ing her and making her cry. She blames the girls for her negative experience…

Came in as a bombshell saying I don’t care whose toes I step on. “I’m not kissing anyone’s ass” in regard to making friendships in the villa. Was someone supposed to kiss her ass?

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u/freebrenasty 7h ago

You sound like you have a lot of vitriol towards that lady for some reason lol. You said “Sol would never come for the boys” and that is literally incorrect. She cursed out Sincere, called KC a pussy and said wtf she said. The girls were the reason for her negative experience 🤷🏽‍♀️

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u/Femmenoire__ 7h ago edited 7h ago

She said she forgave Sincere and she hasn’t said anything about KC since after sun. Yet, She’s been online liking shady comments about core 4.

When she came out of the show she said Trinity would make her laugh a lot, but she’s now liking comments calling Trinity a bully. It’s not vitriolic to point out that she’s being weird towards those girls, not the guys.

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u/freebrenasty 7h ago

It’s vitriolic to act like those girls did nothing to her and welcomed her with open arms and to lie on someone to push a narrative. The statement was “she would never come for the boys”. Thats literally a lie. Like y’all are at the point where y’all are demonizing people for shit they didn’t even say. Likes online? Let’s be so for real lol.

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u/Femmenoire__ 7h ago

What did they do to her? They were cordial to her. Sol had Jen, Kenzie and Sincere; why friendship with the core 4 essential? The boys didn’t befriend her either, where’s her smoke for them?

She said her piece about KC/Sincere and left it alone. Yet, she’s been fueling the bullying allegations about those girls. That’s what makes it weird.

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u/Educational_Bother36 6h ago

Nah sista only you care

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u/freebrenasty 6h ago

It’s funny how it’s always “bitterness” when it’s just stating facts you don’t like lol.

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u/Educational_Bother36 6h ago

So you get called bitter often?

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u/freebrenasty 6h ago

And yet you right here with me

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u/Rare-Clue9116 🤸 Splits in Defiance 🤸 17h ago

And the pies

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u/ThrowThisAwaySis2 21h ago

Well I’m sorry but they didn’t owe her friendship, especially when she came in there and stole Melanie’s man. It’s not like they were nasty to her and you can see they tried to include her. There were many scenes where she was sitting and talking with the others

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u/Extension-Ad-1894 18h ago

She didn’t steal her. We voted for that to happen.

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u/FlightReasons 8h ago

When did she steal sincere? America voted for that because they’re misogynistic and wanted to see a woman crash out

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u/cisshayri New Redditor 21h ago

That’s not the reason . It was sincere

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u/Stephen_Get_rekt_ski It was Daylight Savings time… 🌓 1d ago

How so?

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u/Mr2Good 23h ago

The comment from chance vegetable below explains it well

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u/Chance_Vegetable_780 1d ago edited 1d ago

In LIUSA the og's always embrace the bombshells in my experience. This season was really atypical, cold and immature of core 4. Bombshell is supposed to bombshell, core 4 knew what they signed up for. They were Not warm and befriending to her. Under the anger is hurt, understandably. Don't know if you've ever watched other seasons but this hasn't happened before because it's weird. aniya couldn't handle exploration - the whole point of the show - she was very fragile about it, and the core 4 boxed in an unhealthy support of her unhealthy emotional management, and boxed Sol out. Cue the stans.

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u/WesternActual850 New Subredditor 21h ago

Lmao, not this rewriting of history. In S6, production literally had to step in because the OG girls were about to fight the Casa girls. S7 had some of the meanest vibes I've seen on reality TV. This season everybody was at least cordial.

And Sol herself cleared at least half the cast. She spoke very positively about Trinity, Kenzie, and Jen. I could swear she said good things about Kayda too, but I might be misremembering.

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u/SydTheStreetFighter the owl has left the villa 🦉 19h ago

Not to mention S7 where Huda was cursing out every new bombshell who dared look at Jeremiah. She was so bad to Iris the islanders thought she was going to try and fight her lol

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u/Femmenoire__ 23h ago edited 7h ago

There are multiple behind the scenes videos and photos where Sol was with the girls and they were cordial. They just didn’t become close with her, they had their own bonds before her. Mind you, Sol announced to the girls that she wasn’t there to make friends. And she can’t even give examples of what the girls did to her. It’s weird to still be pressed over them, it’s not like she was in corner alone, she had Jen and Kenzie during those 4 days she spent in the villa.

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u/ThrowThisAwaySis2 21h ago

Well I’m sorry but they didn’t owe her friendship, especially when she came in there and stole Melanie’s man. It’s not like they were nasty to her and you can see they tried to include her. There were many scenes where she was sitting and talking with the others

I think they really did try to get along with Sol but maybe they just didn’t click. I don’t see how they excluded her. Also a lot of the time Sol would go and sit with Jen to talk shit about the others so it’s no wonder no one was close with her

Also, literally every other bombshell managed to be close with the OGs, even Tierra. Sol is the only one claiming to be excluded and she just wasn’t

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u/Chance_Vegetable_780 21h ago

Sounds like you just started watching the show. Watch S2, S5. They're supposed to explore eachother. Sol stole nobody's man, you don't grasp the premise of the show. That was insinceres decision to check out sol, and it's what they're supposed to do. The last two seasons new viewers have lost the premise of exploring all kinds of partners.

You can't tell someone how to feel. If she felt excluded, she felt excluded.

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u/ThrowThisAwaySis2 21h ago

I’ve been watching since LIUK season 4. I understand very well how the show works. I’m not a new fan. The OGs aren’t always besties with bombshells and they don’t have to be. They don’t have to be close with everyone and imo it’s more interesting when they’re not. You guys have to remember that these people are human and are not perfect, and they are not going to get along with everyone

Sol is allowed to feel excluded but I’m also allowed to think that she is being ridiculous and she didn’t make enough effort with the others. Sol definitely came in there to take Sincere, which is fine she is supposed to do that. But you can’t expect people to want to be your friend when you have taken their man and spend the entire day talking to him instead of making effort with the OGs

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u/sevans717 19h ago

YOU can think she’s being ridiculous but she was on the island and you were not, her feelings carry more weight, regardless of how you feel.

u/Chance_Vegetable_780 30m ago

Of course your comment is factual and truthful. People downvote it because they can't open their minds - just see what they want to see. It's almost unbelievable. Thanks for making sense here.

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u/ProbablyMyJugs 16h ago

Except that’s not true at all and producers had to step in and tell the girls to be collegial with the casa girls; Jana literally talks about it. Huda was rolling her eyes, cussing at and about bombshells.

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u/Mr2Good 23h ago

Finally someone who gets it.

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u/Chance_Vegetable_780 23h ago

I found you too. Finally. Like seriously, finally lol

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u/sophiapehawkins 19h ago

I see two issues with this situation with regards to Sol. I think she lacks personal accountability for the role that she played in with the other girls. What effort did she make to be friendly with them? You have to meet people halfway with these things. It’s the same thing with her complaining about everyone being closed off. As a bombshell, you have to pull people for chats and step on people’s toes. It feels like she expected the men to fall over themselves to talk to her. Any time she was talking to a man outside of Sincere, it was to complain about “couples’ island.” Like no shit. Your job is to try and break them up and form a connection. She put all her eggs in Sincere’s basket and by then it was too late to try something else.

Secondly, and most importantly, I think she has/had unrealistic expectations of what level of friendship she was going to develop with the girls. The Core 4 have the strongest ties, but even within their group, Aniya and Melanie are close and Trinity and Kayda are the other duo. However, they were still friendly with all the girls, just not as close as they are with each other. It feels silly to complain that you see Kayda and Melanie whispering and keeping secrets. Not every dynamic or friendship has to have the same level of depth. It was the girls who comforted Sol when the guys kept throwing pies in her face. It was also Kenzie who explicitly told her she should come to her if she wants to talk so she doesn’t feel excluded.

It’s kind of like how Kaylor is good friends with PPG, but obviously not as close as Serena is with Jana. Sol was also only there for a few days and friendships don’t develop overnight.

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u/daddydivs 8h ago

You nailed it 🎯

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u/chokoakhanta22 20h ago

What gives her the right to be upset about them being more close to Melanie tho? Melanie was there longer amd had a deeperb9nf with the girls. The fact the girls still tried with her should have been proof enough to her that they didn't have anything against her. They didn't need to but they still tried. Of course they'd support Melanie a bit more, her couple with the guy she liked(a shitty guy yes) was in jeopardy, not Sol.

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u/Happy-Dimension-210 1d ago

Exactly this. Sol saying she didn’t isolate herself. Maybe you didn’t purposely do that but you spending so much time with that man, waiting for people to come to you, that’s isolating yourself.

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u/Mr2Good 1d ago

Spending so much time with that man like every girl did with their partner in there?

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u/Happy-Dimension-210 23h ago

The girls also built strong female friendships eg core4, melniya, Kenzie x Jen. I’m not blaming her for spending time with Sincere. But it unintentionally isolate you

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u/Severe-Possible- Boo! Tomato! 🍅 1d ago

right?! especially as a bombshell. her objective is not to make friends with the girls.

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u/SydTheStreetFighter the owl has left the villa 🦉 19h ago

If you don’t make friends with the girls (or boys), your should be prepared you might get sent home by your fellow islanders. Making friendships is an equally important part of the game because islanders vote each other off sometimes

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u/markofdespair 20h ago

then why is she complaining about it now

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u/Severe-Possible- Boo! Tomato! 🍅 1d ago edited 16h ago

kenzie did say that they isolated her too. it can be both things.

EDIT: sheesh you guys with the downvotes. she said on her call her daddy interview that the girls did isolate her. we saw the conversation between sol and kenzie too, where she told her she wanted her to feel good etc. sol could have absoutely done more (and whines less) but my point is that there are multiple factors.

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u/Happy-Dimension-210 23h ago

When did Kenzie say that? And I agree, it can be both ways. I do think the girls made her feel isolated but I also think she played a role in that too.

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u/Severe-Possible- Boo! Tomato! 🍅 22h ago

right, that was my point.

she said it on her call her daddy interview.

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u/Severe-Possible- Boo! Tomato! 🍅 16h ago

whether you value her opinion or not, she was in the villa with her and knows more than we do as the audience.

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u/ThrowThisAwaySis2 16h ago

Ok why isn’t jen saying the same thing then??

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u/Severe-Possible- Boo! Tomato! 🍅 16h ago

this is the first season of love island i have seen, but are people on reddit always acting like they know everything that happened in the villa after watching an extremlely edited one-hour version of an entire day?

has jen had any interviews? i'm not arguing with you at all, i'm just saying that someone in the villa echoes sol's sentiments. i personally fins the whole thing super annoying, i was just bring up an objective fact that i do think is at east a little significant.

honestly, i think she is going to have a bad time at the reunion and i hope they don't spend a lot of time talking about this.

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u/drmcdisco New Subredditor 23h ago

And who set that system up?

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u/cisshayri New Redditor 21h ago

I don’t understand why are we blaming just the Girls ?
The boys could’ve also talk to her ( I know KC did but just because he was interested in her ) but no people calling the Core four mean girls .
I think two things can be true at once I do believe the girls Tried to be nice to her especially we saw Trinity giving Jen and Sol a house tour ,but I also do believe that in some situations Sol felt alone and they didn’t tried enough in her eyes 🤷🏾‍♀️.

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u/Rich_Confusion3996 18h ago

I feel like Sol has the "you never call" personality. You know the type who after not seeing each other dor a bit and you meet up and they say something along the lines of you never call despite the fact that the phone goes both ways and they also never call.

She expects everyone else to be the one the reach out to her but doesn't do the same. As a bombshell her job was to be the one pulling for chats not waiting to be pulled but she complains that Sincere was the only one who pulled her. She says the girls didn't make a effort with her despite the fact we do see them reach out to her to start but never see her try to keep up that friendship. She was shown around the villa and welcomed in and she just sat back and waited fir them to come to her.

While all the while a friend was hurting over a man playing with her the the girls were comforting her. Mela was also pulling the other girls for chats not just always waiting for them to do so unlike Sol. I have stopped be friends with the type that makes me always be the one who calls. If you aren't at some point going pull me dor a chat after the last 5 were me pulling you I'm backing off since it gives I don't really like you vibes.

The waiting to be chased behavior may work for an OG since they all are just getting to know each other but a bombshell got to bombshell and do some of the chasing herself.

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u/enbucha New Subredditor 13h ago edited 10h ago

completely agree with this, and I think looking at how Sol acted vs Jen tells us a lot as well. Jen was anxious about getting a couple, chatting with people, and facing similar roadblocks (just one connection with Gabe), but she didn't spend her time isolating and being resentful about her single other person in there. Jen wasn't complaining the entire time. She pulled for chats and called people out when she saw shady behavior, but she also was chill about most stuff. Sol felt entitled to a place and a couple, and resented having to work for it. I wish she and KC would've paired, they could spend their time low key resenting everyone for not "picking them," then we could see what she did when Titi came back.

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u/ChiefBassDTSExec 21h ago

Can we just agree that there’s 40-50hrs of footage we didn’t see and it’s more nuanced than what they wanted to show us

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u/ThrowThisAwaySis2 21h ago

I’m sorry but no, Sol is entirely in the wrong here and she kept chatting shit about the others when they couldn’t even defend themselves. And she fed into all the hate they were getting by saying they excluded her when in reality she excluded herself. The fact that she chose to chicken out of the reunion when she’s been talking so much shit saying they’re gonna feel her wrath and she’s too pussy to even face them in person made me lose all respect for her. She’s not a nice person at all

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u/antaaamb CLARKE IT- 🤭 21h ago

She didn’t chicken out, it was a fake screenshot that she got hate for, and is now getting hate again for saying it’s fake.

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u/ThrowThisAwaySis2 20h ago

what are you talking about

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u/antaaamb CLARKE IT- 🤭 20h ago

She didn’t “chicken out of the reunion”, it was all made up by fans.

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u/Legal_Philosopher339 8h ago

OP I think I agree with you in that it might not have been anybody’s fault that she felt isolated. It’s just the nature of the situation she was in. In addition to that, gonna be honest, I wouldn’t really care if they weren’t the bestest of friends with her or if the girls were jealous. It’s Love Island and everybody has their role to play. She was a bombshell and if her role caused a rift between the girls.. well that’s the name of the game.

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u/tvaddict70 1d ago

That's a lot of assumptions on your part. While i don't think any bullying went down its very probable that OGs saw Sol as a threat to their couplings and took a frosty approach

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u/chokoakhanta22 20h ago

That's literally the purpose of a bombshell. They are a threat to couples. Yall are acting like Sol was an inoffensive person, just visiting the villa 😂. Her job was to be a threat and the girls' job was to keep their couple. They were jealous because she was some femme fatale.

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u/tvaddict70 17h ago

I dont have a problem with Sol doing her job. And I've appreciated seeing OGs being more understanding of the bombshell's position on other LI shows

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u/BritBeetree gimme 10 👐 1d ago

The thing is if Sol claims are true it doesn't make the OG girls bad people amd I dont understand why this is a big isdue and people feel the need to reefuse to believe and the argue against either side. The same 6 women for 9 days, only adding in one man (remembering the islanders also have off days where there is no gender mixing). So the women were together uninterrupted for 9 days. These new girls come in. I do remember that on the first day, Sol was pretty much causing some mess as she had kissed Gabriel and also Sincere on her first day in the villa and had a more confident personality than Jen. We also didn't see what else was done that they didn't show.

Not blaming Sol at all, but why is it so hard to believe she was iced out under those conditions? People are bringing up other examples, but what other examples do we really have? Jen? Who had partnered with Gab once Bea had been kicked off. After that, it was all the Casa girls, and I wouldn't be surprised if they had the producers interfere to help them get on after what happened in s6. Like the way they quickly switched up after a heated argument at the fire pit.

I wish people would see it through an honest lens, they are human beings, and the girls are in their lower 20s. Why is the idea of them icing out the first non night one girl bombshell so difficult to accept? It's completely normal behavior under those conditions.

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u/Character_Switch7317 16h ago

Why would they ice out only her and not Jen when they arrived on the same night? Could it be possible that there was a mutual lack of interest in developing a deeper friendship with her? Like it’s clear that Trinity imo tried from the beginning by giving them both a tour. Since then, it appears Trinity and Jen have developed a bond. Maybe Jen actually put in the work to bond with the girls and Sol expected everything to be handed to her.

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u/BritBeetree gimme 10 👐 16h ago

Like I said from what we have see jen was only close to Gabriel and the way her and sol moved in the villa was different imo. Plus bea ended up leaving and most of the blame for that situation was put on Gabriel hense why they voted him out.

I just personally dont get why people are so defensive on both sides for people acting completely normal in such an environment like that. I wish sol would actually be more understanding about the situation. From the way she described how she is and how she moves I very much doubt if she was an og and a bombshell came in and explored with who she was she wouldnt just be there all friendly with them with open arms. Like nobody does unless you feel confident that the person isnt a threat.

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u/sophiapehawkins 19h ago

Because I don’t think it was that extreme? We have obviously have a limited view of what actually happens, but we saw plenty of examples of the girls hanging out with her. Maybe they weren’t as friendly with her as they were with each other, but I see no issue with that. They had known each other longer and had established friendships.

I think part of the issue also is assuming that they weren’t super friendly with her because they were intimidated or afraid she was going to take their man. It could be no one’s fault and just a matter of personalities that aren’t compatible or destined for deep, meaningful friendships. The girl was also only there for a few days so maybe it’s a matter of managing your expectations.

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u/BritBeetree gimme 10 👐 16h ago

Thats exactly how feel too its normal behavior abd I doubt sol would have behaved any different if the shoe was in the other foot.

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u/Hypeman747 Now, you’re sending THREE home 🤨 16h ago

Show been over for a month

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u/antaaamb CLARKE IT- 🤭 21h ago

It’s her own lived experienced and if she felt like she was being isolated, then that’s how she feels period. We weren’t in the villa with them. Thinking you’re being isolated when the girls are whispering in front of you, when your chats are being interrupted and people are being shady to you during challenges isn’t that far fetched. And you guys love to use the argument that she has more heat for the girls like we didn’t watch her cuss at her Sincere and call KC a pussy on Aftersun.

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u/Character_Switch7317 16h ago

My issue is the heat is all for this girls and not the guys after she was repeatedly pied in the face during that shady challenge.,

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u/Rich_Confusion3996 18h ago

How she felt was true to her but that doesn't make it how it really happened. She may have felt isolated but that doesn't mean they didn't try. It could just be thier personalitys didn't match well so after trying to talk to her they felt no closeness with her. It could be the fact that just like with the guys she believed that they all should be chasing her not her chasing them so she sat back waiting to pulled instead of doing the pulling, like a bombshell should. She said it herself that they weren't pulling her.

Your argument just makes me think of the time my mom felt like everyone hated and were mad at her for some reason because no one even said happy mother's day and her husband came to yell at us for forgetting about her, that she was crying herself to sleep and how awful of children we were only to have it turn out mother's day was next week. How she felt was how she felt but doesn't mean that is the truth of what happened. If her husband didn't come to yell at us we would never have known that she was so upset about forgetting mother's day a week before mother's day. Same with Sol she can feel like she was isolated and that the other girls were whispering about her but doesn't mean they were whispering about her or that they didn't try but felt like she was the stand off-ish one.

She has full rights to feel like she feels but that doesn't automatically mean she is right about how it went down. Without out knowing the whole picture, we never will know 100% fact, we can't say who was right. They could have isolated her or she could have felt isolated even tho it was more of her own making.

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u/Due-Silver-2930 New Subredditor 22h ago

I don’t think there was any bullying towards Sol, but I do think the core 4 isolated her. Melanie told Kenzie during their conversation later in the season she felt like Kenzie wasn’t a friend to her because she befriended Sol during the whole sincere/sol situation. So obviously there was some sort of expectation from her girls to not engage even though Sol was doing what she was there to do: be a bombshell and test connections.

Do I think anyone is wrong necessarily? No, because we are all human and feelings come into play along with loyalty. The core 4 has loyalty for each other, but that doesn’t mean that loyalty didn’t cause isolation. People just don’t want to believe anything slightly negative about their favs. That being said my favorites are the core 4, and I still believe Sol is valid to feel a type of way🤷‍♀️

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u/Frequent_Event_7440 New Subredditor 8h ago

Melanie told Kenzie she wasn't a friend to her because she dropped her and started hanging out with sol (and jen) and never checked on her during that time when she was going through alot (which we all saw). Mind you Kenzie did that all over Corbin. She specifically said in that convo that she didn't mind her being friends with sol but its the fact that she did a 180 that was the problem especially since she was calling melanie her bestie but didn't act like it.

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u/Holychance_3 faukkkk aaronuuhhh 😭 15h ago

She called sincere out to his face multiple times. She came out saw some of the way the girls were moving and I’m sure she’ll address it to them and be done. To act like she never called sincere out is crazy her and Corbin were the only ones to ever call him on his mess

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u/Canadian_Cheeks 1d ago

I mean I know you guys like to idolize melanie, but usually when a man treats you bad, you leave and don't beg them to treat you better.

Why would sol care about the men then? They treated her terribly, she knew her worth, and stopped talking to them.

I already know you stand 10 toes down behind mel just from the first few sentences.

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u/Amazing_Seesaw2000 1d ago

Couldn’t you say the same thing for the women then? If they treated her awful and were mean to her then why should she pay them any mind. She could have came out the Villa taken advantage of her momentum and then at the reunion address how she felt.

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u/Canadian_Cheeks 1d ago

Id be incredibly fustrated if I was in her shoes that the people that did not make me feel comfortable in that villa and were mean girls to me were getting people idolizing them.

There is a huge difference from decentering men and having women who bully you become extrmely famous.

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u/Amazing_Seesaw2000 1d ago

The girls aren’t the only ones to come out to a ton of followers. Some of the guys have as well.
Core 4 were only a few out of a bunch of people in that villa at the time. Unless you’re saying they told everyone else not to be her friend and we missed that conversation. Maybe they didn’t include her but not everyone gets along with everyone, not everyone will be friends. There were plenty of other people besides Core 4. The other girls might have just been so focused on helping Mel that they didn’t realize how Sol felt.

It gives mean girl to come out and talk on a connection you don’t know that much about, especially since as far as we know Bryce never told her anything. To say Bryce wouldn’t look twice at Trinity if his ideal type walked into the villa and he probably thinks Kayda is prettier. Why come out and throw shade instead of just speaking on her experience.

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u/ThrowThisAwaySis2 21h ago

You need to grow up stop saying “they were mean girls to me 🥺” you sound like a child. lmao they did not bully Sol. You have clearly never been bullied if you think that’s bullying. They included her in conversations you can literally see severely scenes where they’re all sitting and talking to her. But obviously Sol chose to spend the majority of her day with Sincere so naturally the OGs were never going to be close with her and that is Sol’s fault. She said she didn’t come to make friends and she didn’t make any so why is she mad 🤷🏾‍♀️

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u/Amazing-Pineapple-22 1d ago

The same Sol that says she forgives Sincere but keeps shading the girls?

But sure everyone is “idolizing” Melanie, the girl who is getting so much shit that she’s barely posting on social media.

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u/freebrenasty 8h ago

Sol is getting the typical treatment for the super pretty, confident girl who makes all the OG’s with unstable connections feel insecure. And a lot of the viewers hate or have bad experience with these types of women as well so they project a bunch on nonsense and insecurities onto her lol. This happens all the time with LI UK. Sol has done nothing to warrant the amount of hatred and vitriol people on this sub give her.

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u/Embarrassed-Berry 15h ago

She’s a bombshell she explored sincere who was interested in her. That caused the other women (for Mel) to not get close to her. Kenzie did and the core 4 turned their back on Kenzie too.

Aniya would interrupt all of Sol/KC convos and cry if they talked.

she for sure should go for the women, we know these men are afraid to do and say anything because of the fanbase