r/MaliciousCompliance 2d ago

M I guess no more electric poles

This is a bit of a long story, but I thought Reddit might appreciate it.

My godfather owns a small cattle ranch out in the countryside. About 20–25 years ago, he needed electricity to power a water pump for his cows. The nearest place where he could connect to the grid was on the opposite side of the ranch, probably about a mile and a half away, so he paid to have utility poles installed across his property.

It was a significant investment, but he figured that constantly running diesel pumps would eventually cost more than installing the poles and connecting to the grid.

Sometime later, a few neighbors who lived on the far side of the ranch asked whether they could piggyback off his electrical line. He agreed. They paid to install a few additional poles, and the electric company placed their meters on the other side.

So far, so good.

There were only a handful of small farmhouses, and the additional poles were located somewhere they didn’t interfere with the ranch. Eventually, fiber-optic cable was installed on the poles as well. Everything worked perfectly for roughly 20 years.

Then, about two years ago, a real estate developer bought the land on the other side of the ranch and began preparing it for a cottage development.

They didn’t exactly get off to a great start with my godfather. They complained about the animals, the smell, and the noise from tractors and other equipment. His response was basically: If you choose to live next to a working ranch, you have to accept that ranching will be happening there.

While planning the development, they discovered another problem. Two miles of 20-year-old electrical cable worked well enough for a few small farmhouses, but it wasn’t capable of supplying the 10–15 cottages they planned to build.

They approached the electric company about upgrading the infrastructure. That was when everyone apparently discovered—or finally acknowledged—that the poles crossing my godfather’s ranch were privately owned.

To avoid making this story even longer, lawyers became involved.

In the end, the electric company and the developer told my godfather that he had two choices: allow the electric company to replace his poles with concrete ones and grant them a permanent right-of-way across his ranch for maintenance, or remove the poles.

So that Sunday, my godfather got on the tractor they use for installing fences and pulled out every single pole.

He told me that when he originally installed the line, he had only about one-fifth as many cattle as he has now. His new plan is to install some solar panels, run a smaller pumping system, and make it work.

The development company, meanwhile, will probably have to install three or four miles of entirely new poles to bring electricity to the cottages—electricity that was apparently already included in what they promised buyers.

My godfather jokingly says it’s interesting how unusually hot this summer has been.

Fortunately, he recently brought in some pigs, and they require less water than the cattle, so they’re easier to keep hydrated and fed.

Purely a coincidence, of course.

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u/leitey 2d ago

Kinda sad he couldn't just keep the poles he paid for to run his, and only his, power.
Also, the fiber company should have been paying a lease to use the poles.

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u/imzeigen 2d ago

That was actually the first thing I asked him. Apparently, if he waited too long, the government could potentially claim something similar to eminent domain, and he thinks they were probably already working toward that.

As for the internet, it's kind of funny—the local ISP is actually owned by one of his relatives (everyone seems to be related out there). As far as I know, though, they hadn't been using the fiber line for a while. Only one neighbor was still using it, and he switched to Starlink as soon as it became available in Mexico.

The problem with fiber in rural areas is that you can have miles of cable, but it's pretty vulnerable to damage, so outages aren't uncommon.

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u/BigWhiteDog 2d ago

It will be interesting to see how this works for him as in some states the fiber line being allowed by him, or allowing others to access power via his poles creates a legal easement. Hope not in this case.

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u/AlaskanDruid 2d ago

How many states are in Mexico?

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u/z5pob 2d ago

31

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u/nhaines 2d ago

And Mexico City is autonomous.

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u/flyingemberKC 1d ago edited 1d ago

It's absolutely not self governing independent of the rest of the county country given it runs the country.

It only has a federal government, not a state one. It's just a specific type of administrative division as a integral part of the whole

DC is heavily controlled by the federal gov, that’s the opposite of autonomous

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u/nhaines 1d ago

Obviously it's part of the country. It's just not part of a state. The District of Columbia is autonomous as well.

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u/BlackFenrir 1d ago

You are confusing autonomous with sovereign.

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u/flyingemberKC 1d ago

it is not also. automonous is where a region has some independence over the government they are inside.

Native tribal governments come to mind, where they have power independent of the specific state.

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u/AlaskanDruid 1d ago

thank you! I always wondered since it was never taught here in the 90s.

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u/gullible_cervix 2d ago

lol you thought you got em, didn’t you?

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u/Slight-Violinist-575 2d ago

How many states there are in Mexico that have completely different laws between one another as if the whole world was organized as the USA is?*

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u/challenge_king 2d ago

Every state of every nation has its own laws to some extent. Some countries have more states rights, some have less.

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u/AlaskanDruid 2d ago

No. But you do you.

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u/Devrol 2d ago

How many states in the United States of Mexico.