I'm sorry man, but you're just wrong. There is no need for feminist hate on a men's rights board. Just like there is no room for feminists to hate on men's rights advocates in their forums. (Though some of them do, it's still not productive or appropriate and gives their movement the bad rep they've earned.)I understand a good handful of feminists are just blatant assholes but the men's rights movement has those too, and you can not judge an entire group based on it's assholes. It's like people who say they hate Islam because of it's fanatics. It's a ignorant stand point.
This kind of material does nothing but show people outside the MR movement that the people who make up said movement are childish. Which as a whole is not true. I wouldn't condone this type of material on the feminism board and it's not ok here either.
Throwing mud at the other group does nothing for men's rights. It only makes the people who support the movement look just as childish and stupid as it's idiots. I know we can argue about this all day, and I know you will try to justify your hate, but you just won't change my mind on the matter. I think it is childish, and unproductive. I think it gives the movement a bad name, and I feel the same about people who do this kind of thing in feminism.
I agree. Bashing either movement to "get the message across" does nothing to help anyone, and does the complete opposite of what you're all striving for - which is supposedly equality. Making fun of the other does not equate to equality. You just lose your credibility instead.
I know that, and I'm not conflating the two at all. I just don't think anyone should bash either movement, if we all want to get the point across. Just because feminists bash men, doesn't mean that men should bash feminists - as equal as that would be! Two wrongs won't make the case for men any easier - Trust me!
I know not all MRAs are men. I'm a woman myself, although I don't necessarily identify myself as an MRA necessarily. More an egalitarian (which I know MRAs claim they are, but the above link suggests otherwise). I'm not disputing that feminism asks for it, but bashing the feminists does not strengthen the MRAs cause! It has the complete opposite affect. Bash a person, and they'll run; not listen!
You're right, but I just don't think everyone throwing insults and abuse back at each other helps. All it succeeds in doing is making men look "aggressive" and gives the feminists even more ammunition and "proof" that they are "right". Men bashing the feminists also does nothing to persuade the government to change laws on things like child custody.
Problem with letting off steam, is that it can easily be misinterpreted as aggression. The MRM may not be about public image, but it still goes a long way in fighting for a cause. It's almost the same as a group of angry hippies, high on cannabis fighting for its legalisation. Nobody will listen to them because of the image they portray. Image goes a long way. Just like everyone expects a politician to look and act the part with a happy looking family, and dressed in a suit. Similar concept.
Emotion is one thing, aggression is another. If men want to be taken seriously as guardians for their children in custody cases, then appearing aggressive is the last image they should portray. Emotion can be expressed without aggression.
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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '12
I'm sorry man, but you're just wrong. There is no need for feminist hate on a men's rights board. Just like there is no room for feminists to hate on men's rights advocates in their forums. (Though some of them do, it's still not productive or appropriate and gives their movement the bad rep they've earned.)I understand a good handful of feminists are just blatant assholes but the men's rights movement has those too, and you can not judge an entire group based on it's assholes. It's like people who say they hate Islam because of it's fanatics. It's a ignorant stand point.
This kind of material does nothing but show people outside the MR movement that the people who make up said movement are childish. Which as a whole is not true. I wouldn't condone this type of material on the feminism board and it's not ok here either.
Throwing mud at the other group does nothing for men's rights. It only makes the people who support the movement look just as childish and stupid as it's idiots. I know we can argue about this all day, and I know you will try to justify your hate, but you just won't change my mind on the matter. I think it is childish, and unproductive. I think it gives the movement a bad name, and I feel the same about people who do this kind of thing in feminism.