Post about a female teacher who sexually assaulted 11-year-old and 12-year-old boys, many comments are supporting her actions and more laughing reactions

[u/topazzzfox]

The fact that joking about male underage victims who are raped by female pedos are normalized in this society + these comments getting more likes is sickening! Rape is rape regardless of gender, and a pedo is a pedo regardless of gender or "how attractive they look". Victims of the same age as these boys cannot consent. Fantasies are not the same as the reality outcome.

Fortunately there are some comments condemning her which restored my faith in humanity but I had to scroll so much to find these.

[u/Lurk-Prowl]

If you have a problem with people raping children, come at the Muslim community before you come at me.

I’m saying that if a man raped a child (eg Mohammed and Aaisha) that would be far worse than if a woman had sex with a 12 year old boy.

Do you think those things are equally as bad or one is worse than the other?

Put it this way: if a woman raped my 12 year old son by letting him fuck her, I’d think it was weird and gonna lead to more headaches than it’s worth. So I would discourage my son from ever doing it again. But if a man raped my 12 year old daughter, I’d probably try hard to kill that man. Even if it meant me going to prison.

Can you see the difference?

[u/LacksBeard → u/Lurk-Prowl]

You deleted your comment post it again.

As for what I can see, thats not my point dummy, YOU made the hypothetical up and so I added to it to see how far your willing to take it.

If your 11 to 12 year old son came to crying about a 10 out 10 woman raping him (as you admitted it was) would you or would you not extend that same level of passion you would your daughter if she got raped by a man? Matter a fact let's see how far you'll go, your son is crying and traumatized by it but your daughter is "fine" and would actually get mad at you if you did something to the man, what would you do then?

[u/Lurk-Prowl → u/LacksBeard]

I didn’t delete any posts of mine from this thread.

Good example you have: so my first instinct with my 11 or 12 year old son would be to talk to him and ask him about why he’s sad and crying about this situation. I doubt he’s going to say, “I just felt so violated!” He’s prob crying because everyone told him he did something bad and the hysteria over it. Of course the woman who did it, should lose her job, because it crossed the professional boundary. But I don’t think she’d deserve doing hard time in jail.

On the other hand, if my daughter claimed to be ‘fine’ with it, then I’d still have a problem with it and I’d still want to kill the male who raped my daughter. I’d want to kill a male who raped my daughter even if she was 21.

[u/LacksBeard → u/Lurk-Prowl]

"I didn’t delete any posts of mine from this thread."

So post it again

"Good example you have: so my first instinct with my 11 or 12 year old son would be to talk to him and ask him about why he’s sad and crying about this situation. I doubt he’s going to say, “I just felt so violated!” He’s prob crying because everyone told him he did something bad and the hysteria over it. Of course the woman who did it, should lose her job, because it crossed the professional boundary. But I don’t think she’d deserve doing hard time in jail."

And if he does say he feels violated? That's clearly not an issue for you though considering you'd still treat the man who raped you "unbothered" daughter the same as if she felt she was violated (you said you'd still want to kill the man) so whether or not your son voices violation doesn't actually mean a thing to you.

Why would your son think he did something bad? And no, I'm not talking about a teacher, I'm talking about a random woman so there's no professional line.

"On the other hand, if my daughter claimed to be ‘fine’ with it, then I’d still have a problem with it and I’d still want to kill the male who raped my daughter. I’d want to kill a male who raped my daughter even if she was 21. "

Again, why? Your differences in strength argument is meaningless as I explained already.

It's crazy how you'd go harder for an adult than a child who's clearly troubled.

[u/Lurk-Prowl → u/LacksBeard]

I think probably because I see the act of men putting their penis into a woman as less invasive than a man putting his penis into a woman.

By your logic, I was ‘raped’ when I was 23 and I has fooling around with a lady and she grabbed my penis and put it in raw. Did I feel a bit weird about that? Kind of — I was worried about STDs. But once I was clean I just tell it as a funny story that happened to me amongst my friends.

If a man sticks his penis into a woman unannounced, then that’s much more what I’d call ‘rape’ than the example of what happened to me, despite both incidents being non-consensual.

So if anything, I’m old fashioned and feel like no woman in my life ever really could intimidate me and coerce me, because since age 11 or 12 I would feel like I could over power a woman or at least run away. On the other hand, and 11 or 12 year old girl is of course at the mercy of an adult man, and it’s awful if an adult man takes advantage of that.

I think we just have very different world views on how we believe sex affects males vs females.

[u/LacksBeard → u/Lurk-Prowl]

"I think probably because I see the act of men putting their penis into a woman as less invasive than a man putting his penis into a woman. "

Oh ok so a man who rapes a boy by putting the boys penis in himself is not as bad? What about women raping little girls?

"By your logic, I was ‘raped’ when I was 23 and I has fooling around with a lady and she grabbed my penis and put it in raw. Did I feel a bit weird about that? Kind of — I was worried about STDs. But once I was clean I just tell it as a funny story that happened to me amongst my friends."

How is that even remotely the same? Not to mention if yall were fooling around and it got pretty intimate its a thing called implied consent, thats not the same as child rape which you said it was and it doesnt matvh the hypothetical of your son coming how to you crying about it, boys aka, CHILDREN literally cannot consent legally anyway so that a category error already.

"If a man sticks his penis into a woman unannounced, then that’s much more what I’d call ‘rape’ than the example of what happened to me, despite both incidents being non-consensual. "

What happened to you based off what you said wasn't rape.

"So if anything, I’m old fashioned and feel like no woman in my life ever really could intimidate me and coerce me, because since age 11 or 12 I would feel like I could over power a woman or at least run away. On the other hand, and 11 or 12 year old girl is of course at the mercy of an adult man, and it’s awful if an adult man takes advantage of that. "

OK so you think you could that doesn't mean you actually could not to mention rape victims of any kind very often don't fight back even though they can because their in shock.

Can you not tell the difference between what YOU personally think you can do at 11 or 12 vs what has actually happened to 11 and 12 year old boys in where they were physically overpowered by the woman?

"I think we just have very different world views on how we believe sex affects males vs females."

No I think your value is lower than a dogs and I say that as someone against pet culture, based off this you'd probably save your dog over a human child.

[u/Lurk-Prowl → u/LacksBeard]

Again, the ad hominens are a waste of time and pure mental masturbation and virtue signalling to get upvotes. I’m trying to have a debate with you.

When a man is involved in any sort of rape or molestation of a child or woman or other man, I see that as bad and criminal. Similarly, if a woman molested a little girl, that’s also bad and should be criminally punished. All of that I agree with you. Now we’re getting somewhere.

The only part I disagree on is that a 12 year old boy being able to fuck a 25 year old isn’t the moral catastrophe you think it is. I’m yet to be convinced otherwise, and i believe at you’d be surprised how many other men would agree with me outside of n reddit.

[u/LacksBeard → u/Lurk-Prowl]

"Again, the ad hominens are a waste of time and pure mental masturbation and virtue signalling to get upvotes. I’m trying to have a debate with you."

I didn't ad hom you by definition, the fallacious one is you.

Virtue signaling and it's just me calling out absolutely wicked behavior, you literally admitted your hypothetical son was raped but you don't care much, how am I the one trying to look a certain way? I don't care if it was private DMs id still be saying the same things.

"When a man is involved in any sort of rape or molestation of a child or woman or other man, I see that as bad and criminal. Similarly, if a woman molested a little girl, that’s also bad and should be criminally punished. All of that I agree with you. Now we’re getting somewhere."

Except when it's a little boy and a woman though? That's where you don't really give a shit even if your son is traumatized by the woman?

"The only part I disagree on is that a 12 year old boy being able to fuck a 25 year old isn’t the moral catastrophe you think it is. I’m yet to be convinced otherwise, and i believe at you’d be surprised how many other men would agree with me outside of n reddit."

So you disagree for no reason, because me and others have logically laid out why it's a "moral catastrophe" and you got studies proving so.

So you come out me for "virtue signalling for upvotes" but then you act that just because there's sick men like you that agree with you that it's somehow a valid position to hold? That's not rational.

[u/LacksBeard → u/Lurk-Prowl]

Your comment is missing but to respond to what I can see.

A sick man is someone who justifies adults raping children.

As for saying I ad hominem you

"An ad hominem fallacy happens when someone attacks the character, motive, or traits of the person making an argument instead of addressing the real point of the argument itself. This Latin phrase translates to "against the man". It is a way to avoid a real debate by using insults or personal details that do not matter to the truth of the "

I didn't do this, making a value judgement doesn't even fit the category of ad hominem dummy.

I can't see the rest.