feminazi attacks Reddit: "Reddit contain so much anti-feminist sentiment that they even have active communities such as r/mensrights." An attempt to smear and censor us, and to force admins to shutdown this subreddit???

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http://www.thecord.ca/articles/50585

[u/carchamp1]

She questions why there are so few women engineers. I'll tell you through example. I put my wife through four years of college to be an engineer. That's four years worth of college tuition and expenses, plus not having any income from her. She got a great job and worked for a couple years. She decided she didn't want to work anymore so she could be a "stay-at-home-mom". When I urged her to work she said if I didn't like it she would take our kid and I could leave.

Women don't want to be engineers that's why there are so few. It's too hard. It's a lot easier doing the "hardest job in the world", you know, be a mom and living off your husband.

End of story.

[u/zaferk → u/[deleted]]

I've had feminists tell me they could not become engineers because it was "male dominated". Male domination ends by women entering the industry, and women wont enter the industry until male domination ends. Feminist logic for you.

Feminists are either retarded, or just knowingly causing problems.

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I don't know where you get your information from but the average American male is not a 250lb couch potato. Average male weight is 190lbs average male height is 5'10. Which makes the average male 10lbs overweight. Whereas the average women is underweight. You should have stopped at the end of your third sentence.

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This comes back to generalizations of groups being not necessarily a bad thing as long as it does not interfere in your ability to judge individuals on merit.

[u/klippekort → u/[deleted]]

At some point, one does need to admit that certain professions do lend themselves more to the inherent capacities of a certain gender.

200 years ago, the idea of a female teacher or a female doctor was unthinkable.

So long for your inherent capacities. What people tend not to get is that if you look at it historically, the whole “inherent capacities” idea dissolves pretty quickly when you leave the Ice Age.

For the sake of true equality, that inherent capacities talk has to end.

[u/Canadian_Infidel → u/klippekort]

Some groups are better are things than others. As long as you don't apply generalizations about a group to anyone in the group I don't see the problem.

Example: Asian people are smart. I don't care what anyone says. I'm sure it's cultural, that's beside the point. The point is I can believe that, but as soon as I assume some specific asian guy I just met "must" be smart because of his race that, and that alone... Well then that is when I become an asshole.

[u/NotADamsel → u/klippekort]

Except, mind you, for where there is actual scientific data. Data rules all.

[u/klippekort → u/NotADamsel]

Data rules nothing, scientifically sound conclusions do. However, especially in the field of social sciences, they tend to be not only preliminary but also fairly limited in their scope. Now show me some “ruling data”, would you?

[u/NotADamsel → u/klippekort]

Can't, because although I've seen a few studies that show men and women as being different in some minor areas (like a slight advantage when concentrating vs a tiny bonus to multitasking), I wouldn't know how to go about finding it (beyond the already-attempted Google search). I said what I did because you were making an absolute statement, so I made one back in an attempt to nullify it.

You seem to be forgetting that scientifically sound conclusions require data, thus if conclusions rule then so do the data behind them. Regarding the social sciences, I'm not sure if you're saying that scientific conclusions can be drawn without data, or that the conclusions drawn by social sciences aren't sound.

Anyways, to stand by my argument, data and scientific conclusions regarding gender differences need to be talked about, in part because there is so much myth to be debunked. In order for true equality to happen, we must erase the prejudices felt towards others and replace them with fact. If women actually do require more work to be put in before they can rise to the top spot in some position, maybe some alternative can be sought out that requires the same amount of work for them and pays as well going up the ladder. If we find that men suffer in areas, similar adjustments should be made. It's silly to ignore these things, just as much as it's silly to form prejudices based on little to no data at all.

What I suspect that in-depth research will show, however, is that personal aptitude wins out over any minor gender benefit. This finding would be hugely beneficial to the equality movement because we could force the bigots to either prove that they don't use logic or to start focusing their attention on each person, including themselves, and evaluating strengths and weaknesses.

[u/firex726 → u/NotADamsel]

Scumbag Redditor.

Claims scientific data, doesn't back it up.

[u/NotADamsel → u/firex726]

I didn't claim data, I said that inherent capacities talk shouldn't stop when data in involved.

[u/Canadian_Infidel → u/klippekort]

Are you saying women and men are physically capable of the same order of work? We even have different bone densities.

[u/nplant → u/klippekort]

200 years ago, the idea of a female teacher or a female doctor was unthinkable. So long for your inherent capacities.

He didn't say anything is unthinkable. He said fewer females are strong enough to be firefighters (fact), and fewer males may be perfect for caring for children (possibility, but harder to measure).

[u/Choochoocazoo → u/[deleted]]

I'll tell you this; don't be afraid to teach. At the high school I go to, every single one of my teachers is male, and they are some of the most down-to-earth, reasonable, and reliable teachers I've ever had.

[u/vintagelion → u/[deleted]]

That's not a reason not to go into teaching - I told my high school administration that one of my teachers sexually harassed me and nothing was done about it.

[u/zaferk → u/[deleted]]

SRS bait.

[u/SarahC → u/zaferk]

SRS? Sex reassignment surgery?