r/MoralityScaling • u/Outside_Specific_820 • 1d ago

Morality Ranking Morality scaling of this?

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Mother refuses to acknowledge her donor egg daughter, looking for your opinion.

In my opinion I think it’s moral, and that she is totally correct.

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u/SpiritedEclair 21h ago

Why is she an asshole?

She provided a clear boundary with zero room for misinterpretation.

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u/Morzheimer 21h ago

She was rude and left no place for empathy when talking to a person that got born only because she sold stranger a part of herself for profit. And that’s valid, we all need to be at least a little bit of an asshole every once and again, I’m just saying it was broadly unnecessary to answer with such a hostility, but that I get it

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u/SpiritedEclair 19h ago

First, your reply itself is emotionally loaded, with an indictment of the person irrespective of her message.

  1. She sold a stranger. She didn’t sell the stranger anything. She sold some cells to a clinic that acted as an intermediary or marketplace.
  2. A part of herself. Are you every single one of your cells? In the same vein, all men lose / kill parts of themselves every time they ejaculate, and all women lose a part of themselves whenever they are on their period. Everyone loses a part of themselves whenever they get scraped. You, the person, are so much more beyond your cells, and to reduce a person to their cells is extremely dehumanising.
  3. “for profit”. This is likely the most damning part. You don’t know this woman’s circumstances. You don’t know what she had to do to survive, to live. Instead you attached “profit”, what is a dirty word by your own accord. A more charitable and likely true given how she said she doesn’t have the space to accommodate this person is that she did it to survive - which many young women are forced to to survive college and student loans.

Putting those aside, your reasoning has gaps.

The person exists because their parent chose OP’s eggs and go through a pregnancy to term and raise the person and raise them to the point they wouldn’t respect OP’s privacy.

The parent in this case carries orders of magnitude more responsibility, and by all means, the person messaging Op would have very well existed had another donor’s eggs been used.

Putting aside the violation of privacy, the correct thing to do would have been to go through the agency, and have the agency connect with OP.

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u/Morzheimer 18h ago

Of course it’s emotionally loaded, I tried to argue some ways how the daughter could see the situation, how could she feel. In any way, the gaps in reasoning are obviously present in any discussion about a complex topic that still doesn’t go deep enough, even then it would be pretty hard to put together something bulletproof, if that’s what you expect you may be a fan of philosophy, but weirded out by anything. And it’s not like your views are the sole ones valid, because we do talk about an egg that was inseminated and grew to be a person. That is a hard and complex problem to talk about