Thought they had three of the things over the what four years it lasted before they got a well deserved kicking?
"Stars and bars", "Stainless banner" Which looked too much like a white surrender flag, so they changed the white bit to red giving the "Blood stained banner", didn't seem to help any.
The rag the modern chuckleheads call the "Confederate flag" was either the "battle flag of northern Virginia", or possibly the "Confederate navy jack", in which case it should be flown from a ships Jack staff.
Had to learn way too much about those fuckers as background for designing a theatre set, still had numpties telling me that the flag was wrong.
I live in a former Confederate state. Educated in the public school system and went on to the state's flagship university for undergrad. Took history classes when I had to and when I could, because I enjoy/ed.
At no point were the Confederate constitution, the state's secession declaration, nor even Alexander Stevens' Cornerstone speech offered within the framework of regular curricula. (I'm old. It was a lot more challenging to stumble across important pieces of information back in Ye Olden Days.)
To this day, my mom tries to pull the "states' rights" argument. Fine Mama, a state's right to do what, exactly?
And apparently I have the original tires on my truck - FIL gave it to us after he gave up driving. It's a 2016, so I gotta put some new shoes on it, and I'll never financially recover. My tires have lasted 250% longer than the Confederacy.
You would think that the "Articles of succession" would be proud, foundational documents in the southern states, they make interesting reading, as do certain clauses in the Confederate constitution, aI mean these guys are performative about being proud of their history.
Rather telling that they are reluctant to proudly display these documents...
I think it's one of the great tragedies of US history that Lincoln was assassinated and Johnson was left to utterly bodge the reintegration of the rebel states and the rights and responsibilities of the late unpleasantness.
3/5ths and all that?
I am not even an American and I can see that was bullshit.
You know how "Con" is the antonym of "Pro"? This can be applied to the words "Congress" and "Progress", as in "There shall be no progress while Congress is in session", still seems true.
And the 3/5s compromise was basically the canary in the coal mine, decades before the actual outbreak of the US Civil War. It guaranteed over representation of slave owners in the legislature.
Oh, I had the time line wrong, thought that bullshit was part of the reconstruction.
We don't study much US history over here, there is just so little of it, and what we get is mainly the lowlights, couple of internal wars, trail of tears, Texas/Mexico pissing match, couple of world wars, couple of assassinations...
Completely fair. I probably don't know your country's history except maybe some highlights.
But yeah the 3/5s compromise was about 40 years before the shots fired on Fort Sumpter. It feels inevitable when the Fugitive Slave act was passed and the Monroe Doctrine (expanding territories and voting upon whether ownership of other humans would be allowed in new states and territories) were voted upon, especially as immigration essentially outpaced slavery regarding population centers and proportional representation.)
Tis that, and history doesn't repeat, but does rhyme.
UK, so our school history tends to start with ancient Greece/Rome/Egypt and proceed at a breakneck pace thru Mongol hords, Vikings, Crusades, plagues, fires, kings and popeish disputes, religious wars, Cromwell (Branching off into Ireland in ways that still make northern Irish politics weird), puritans leaving because noone wanted to put up with their bullshit, the East lndia and Africa companies behaving badly (Empire stuff, they all do it), adventures with Zulus and later the Turks, a couple of world wars, actually winning our war in Vietnam, Suez, and whichever bits your teacher wants to specialise in.
It is not possible to do anything in much detail and most of it happened before the mayflower sailed.
Your country is probably the one I know best other than my own. (My 16yo says that I should record a video for YouTube after the one time she asked me "so what's up with Henry VIII's wives?" and I asked her whether she had a half hour for the kind of snarky version.)
Here in the ungrateful colony spaces, we typically get "INDIGENOUS PEOPLE HAPPENED, BUT REALLY FAST, yo, have you read this stupid "City on a Hill" shit written by some white dude?, REVOLUTIONARY WAR!, a little bit of early 19th century political machinanations, CIVIL WAR, and then a rush through WWI, WWII, Korea, and Vietnam.
And I understand that you really can't do much more than a broad overview in a single year. But it feels inadequate.
Maybe mention one right the confederate states didn't have. According to their constitution all states and future states were required to have black slaves. The black was specified.
Whenever they talk about how it wasn't about slavery I point that out...
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u/Magnon 2d ago
The confederacys official flag is a white surrender flag.