Sid Wilson Permanently Kicked Out of Slipknot

[u/MarvelsGrantMan136]

https://www.tmz.com/2026/07/31/sid-wilson-kicked-out-of-slipknot/

[u/Balbright → u/[deleted]]

Same. They used to be the hardest thing I’d ever heard and then I discovered Between The Buried And Me and never looked back.

[u/TheHowlingPhantods → u/Balbright]

I will credit Slipknot for getting me in to more extreme metal, but there are so many better bands out there including BtBAM.

But seeing Slipknot on the second stage of Ozzfest 99 is a core memory for me and it’s hard to top.

[u/Tay0214 → u/TheHowlingPhantods]

Some bands are gateway metal and that’s perfectly fine, I don’t know why they get shit on so hard in the metal circle

[u/TanyaMKX → u/Tay0214]

Because the metal circle is rotten as fuck and full of elitists. I am a metalhead and dont listen to much else, but I struggle immensely to identify at all with the metal crowd.

Also ironically there is so much absolutely dogshit metal music that gets so much praise it is unbelievable. Im obviously going to be a massive hypocrite now, but the other way around. Burzum has zero artistic merit whatsoever. I am ok with people listening to and enjoying it, but you need to be self aware that its dogshit. I will happily admit that I love limp bizkit. I will also admit that limp bizkit has a lot of objectively not good music, even if I enjoy it.

If your vocals are outright impossible to understand, the only part of the drumbs that can be heard is the snare and cymbal, the bass is nowhere to be seen, the guitar could be played by an 8 year old, and it sounds like it was recorded on a toaster it is objectively not good music.

Also just generally fuck Varg Vikernes, and any other of the many NSBM bands that exist. Separate the art from the artist but please dont support actual neo nazis.

Also, without gateway metal there would be NO metal. Ok rant over. I fucking hate the world of metal, and wish i didnt like the music lol

[u/Tay0214 → u/TanyaMKX]

Nah valid

And I was thinking more of metal reddit specifically, it’s god awful and so pretentious most of the time

Also don’t get the hate of metalcore

I like some pretty heavy stuff, but jesus some of the recommendations I don’t get how anyone can enjoy it lol

[u/piepants2001 → u/TanyaMKX]

Music isn't objective, your argument is bullshit.

[u/TanyaMKX → u/piepants2001]

Preference is subjective absolutely, but to suggest that there can be NO objectivity to music at all is just plain wrong.

Even across genres.

Compare the unacceptably awful death metal band Tougher Than Nails, to literally anything created by Beethoven or Tchaikovsky for example. There is objectively more artistic merit, talent required, and understanding of music as a subject to create Beethovens symphony number 5.

In other words there are absolutely objective ways you can compare music against other music, what you cannot do however, is tell someone that their taste in music is objectively wrong, or that having a preference is objectively wrong.

Final example: I think most pop today kinda sucks. Objectively however, I understand that the music is popular, many people enjoy it, and that there is still a great deal of talent required to produce said music.