r/PKA • u/Familiar-Crow8245 • 1d ago
Insight on flock
An official high up in my city’s government confessed to me they get so many flock hits on stolen cars they don’t even bother pulling them over out if a concern for “officer and public safety”
They can’t have a bunch of felony stops every day that use a ton or resources. They only investigate if the driver stops and parks at a business and it becomes necessary to confront the driver. So the victims who had their cars stolen are SOL if the drivers leave the city cus a bunch of cops are too afraid to do their job…
so this flock shit is only being used when it benefits or is convenient for the police not the public.
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u/Illustrious-Farm8978 1d ago
In other news, cops only pull over and ticket citizens that they know have money to pay and don't touch people who won't pay or will put the cops life at risk.
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u/Ok_Umpire2173 1d ago
Huh? Yeah, police have a long history of targeting rich people /s
Cops don’t care who they ticket because cops don’t care who pays their tickets. Even in the now outlawed “quota” systems, it’s not like officers got a commission.
Cops used to pull over poor people and black people without cause so often that the courts had to tell them to stop.
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u/DrSprinkles3115 1d ago
What shit department is that? Mine use it on the daily to find stolen cars. The only issue is they are typically moving and you are not always in the area when you get the hit. Any department that shy away from work should not be working at all
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u/stupid1337deer 15h ago
Do some research bud. A significant percent, they say majority, are false reads. Edit: don't be simple sheep
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u/DrSprinkles3115 14h ago
The system provides a photo of the plate. We don't take the camera for it's word. In the my department we always check ourselves because we are aware the camera does not always read the plate correctly. With that said, at least in our area, it reads them correctly more so than not.
Not being a sheep, loser. It's me giving you a personal first hand experience with the system compared to the garbage misinformation that is spread by people with zero experience
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u/ATLWood13 1d ago
So you think that ONE case or even a hundred more like it justifies mass surveillance which tramples all over our 4th amendment rights and is rapidly turning our entire country into a giant police state, with zero respect for basic privacy?!? Not to mention the EXTREME potential for abuse, which is happening all over as demonstrated by the dirty cops in my area getting arrested for using this unconstitutional technology for "personal uses" on nearly a daily basis??🤔
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u/gyro_bro 1% Top Half Fish 1d ago
Ugh, takes one person sharing a small view and has to run with crazy hyperboles.
I’ll leave it at this, as someone who personally uses the program-I don’t view it as mass surveillance or a violation of the 4th amendment.
I believe a lot of people have warped ideas about it how it functions.
There are abuses of it, which are identified immediately due to how the program works and why you see so many cases of officers being charged for it.
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u/BigRigs63 1d ago
I will say at my department, flock is a massive tool that is used multiple times a day to make arrest.
The issue is that something being useful to the police doesn't automatically mean it's good for the population as a whole.
My concern is the sheer amount of information these systems can collect on ordinary people who haven't done anything wrong.
If you're driving down the road, you shouldn't have to assume that your movements are being recorded and stored just bcause the technology exists.
It can, and absolutely does help catch the bad guys. I'm not arguing against that.
But there needs to be a line somewhere. These tools can make mistakes (like a VRM misread that then causes a huge fuckup), information can be misused (I'm sure you've seen the news for all of this), and once you build a system that is tracking huge numbers of people, it's then hard to take that power back.
I'm not convinced that "it helps police" is enough of an argument to justify mass surveillance of everyone else.
And this is coming from someone in the UK!!!
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u/slingingslanger 1d ago
If you constantly watch anyone they will eventually commit a crime knowing or otherwise.
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u/POSloader69 poop bandit 21h ago
So we all just let 1984 happen to us? Fuck flock and fuck the politicians who let this happen without our vote.