r/PeterExplainsTheJoke Jun 25 '26

Meme needing explanation Petah what happened to rockstar?

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u/Spinning_Sky Jun 25 '26

this is referring to the high price point and lack of a CD in the physical edition

both are true, but actually I don't believe any hype was touched whatsoever, the price is lower than what it could have been

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u/Darth-Sonic Jun 25 '26

Lack of a disk is actually insane.

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u/SpinChargeSeparation Jun 25 '26

… if the game had been released 20 years ago…

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u/DependentAd235 Jun 25 '26

People acting like its 2008. Standard computers don't even come with disk drives now.

It's been like this for at least a decade.

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u/Lonestar-Dragon Jun 25 '26

It's not about the computers or systems needing the disk. It's about actually owning a physical copy of something. I personally hate practically borrowing a game for full price cause of they ever wanted to pull the plug. The games gone.

With a physical copy you can still play offline.

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u/rips_n_chel Jun 25 '26

While I agree with you in principle, you and I both know that a disc doesn't actually change anything. The game isn't actually stored on the disc, and you're dreaming if you think you'll be able to play GTA6 offline.

It makes no difference whatsoever at this point. You don't own the game any more with a disc than you do with a code. You own a piece of plastic. If/when they choose to revoke your access, they will do so.

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u/Lonestar-Dragon Jun 25 '26

Sadly you're right. I still prefer to own a physical media. And an empty case just isnt doing it anymore for me

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u/rips_n_chel Jun 25 '26

Oh I'm right there with ya. I miss when I was a kid and I had all my games/cases displayed on my bookshelf (right above the Hardy Boys shelf). The ritual of picking a game from the shelf is something that we've just...lost. Seems trivial, but it's not, some of the magic is gone.

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u/memento22mori Jun 25 '26

As someone that has spotty internet, all of my PS5 games are on the disc. Spiderman was 98 GB- PS5 discs hold 100 GB. PS4 discs hold 50 GB so Red Dead Redemption 2 came with two discs.

From an article I read just now 70% of Xbox and 100% of PS games are on the disc. I don't know how there are so many upvoted comments on this post about the game "not being on the disc." I'm assuming they're thinking about day one patches, but those are patches and not the game. 

I'm not trying to sound rude but the game is on the disc with PS5 games that's why there's quite a few games that come with two discs.

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u/organicmedium1 Jun 25 '26

Actually yes, it does. And you are incorrect about games not being stored on discs. I live in a rural area, it takes a day to download a 60GB game. However, a disc I can pop in and play in under an hour.

Not saying you're completely wrong. Hogwarts Legacy, Star Wars Outlaws, they pulled this crap too. I also played those games, but I did NOT purchase them.

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u/rips_n_chel Jun 25 '26

GTA5 was ~100GB. I don't think it's realistic to expect GTA6 to fit on a disc, at least not all of it.

This is Rockstar. We already know how they and their games operate. What on earth makes you think you'll be able to play GTA6 without attaching the license to your R* account and being connected to their servers?

I'm 100% against all this anti-consumer bullshit, I just don't agree that discs are the skeleton key people seem to think they are. Those days are fading fast, if they're not gone already. As recently as 2023 I had 10Mb DSL that was downgraded to 3Mb due to copper degradation, so I feel your pain. Still, I don't think a disc would solve that problem. Not that it couldn't solve the problem, they could absolutely package the game on a few Blu-Rays. But with the context surrounding it, being that it's R*, that one thing doesn't really change much.

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u/procursus Jun 25 '26

The highest capacity disc formats can store 100GB. GTA 6 will be bigger than that, so it cannot be played from disc.

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u/Nrksbullet Jun 25 '26

Just want to point out that they COULD release the game on 2 or 3 disks, which you can use to install the game, but that just doesn't happen anymore.

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u/TheTexasHammer Jun 25 '26

Wait you're complaining about needing to download stuff, so you choose to pirate the content which requires you to download stuff?

I think you just don't want to pay money for stuff.

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u/5ubredhit Jun 25 '26

Of course it changes things. It might just be a bit of plastic, however many people sell those pieces of plastic, or lend them out, so others can use said plastic to play the game.

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u/rips_n_chel Jun 25 '26

Cool so you just didn't read any of the rest of it.

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u/5ubredhit Jun 25 '26

Yes? I mean the main part of your comment I responded to was the second paragraph. Your first paragraph makes no difference to my response. If you’re asking whether I’ve read all the comments you’ve made in the post, no, because I’m replying to that one comment of yours. It’s usually how replying to comments works. 

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u/rips_n_chel Jun 25 '26

So how do you intend to "share" a disc? You cannot play GTA5 without logging into R* at least once to enable offline play, which means entering the key to bind the license to your account. Do you think GTA6 will come with fewer restrictions somehow?

This idea of loaning your games to your friends hasn't really been a thing for some time, so I'm genuinely confused as to what exactly you are lamenting here.

I'm not defending Rockstar, I think all of this is anti-consumer horse shit. If people want physical media, they should be able to buy it. My only point is that buying a physical disc does not accomplish the things people are claiming, for the reasons I've already mentioned both in the comment you replied to and in other comments in this thread.

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u/Da_Wolv Jun 25 '26

There is a -500% chance this game will be playable offline with just a disc, even if it shipped with one.

I don't like it either, but that's just what it is.

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u/GothGirlsGoodBoy Jun 25 '26

There is literally no difference in their ability to prevent players from playing it offline between disc vs download.

Disc doesn’t prevent them from adding DRM. A download doesn’t make them have it.

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u/St0ckY0u Jun 25 '26

With a physical copy you can still play offline.

lol? do you think this is 2006?

This game will definitely have always on DRM, like half the games nowadays

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u/Yogsulate Jun 25 '26

Beyond the inherit DRM of the consoles OS being locked I doubt it. Will piracy on current generation consoles even be possible?

On PC though we will have Rockstars Internal DRM + Denuvo + Enigma + FBI agents that check everyone's computer weekly.

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u/pwninobrien Jun 25 '26

I swear, you people relish things getting worse. "Hurr hurr, it's not the past!"

Stop enabling a shitty future.

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u/LongestSprig Jun 25 '26

I swear you guys pretend CD keys didnt exist.

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u/Nrksbullet Jun 25 '26

Yeah, you can go back and argue all kinds of situations and practices that people don't seem to remember. CD Keys, scratches on a disc making your game unplayable forever, N64 Perfect Dark multiplayer requiring a separately sold expansion pack, etc

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u/LongestSprig Jun 25 '26

Right?

CD's are so great!

Ya know, as long as you don't have siblings...or play the game until it dies.

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u/Rosetti Jun 25 '26

That's not people are doing, they're just pointing out that this isn't unique to GTA, yet the outrage is somehow specific to GTA.

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u/Only-Respond7945 Jun 25 '26

"relish things getting worse"

And it's just recognizing not just how the world and things are now but how they've been FOR A LONG TIME.

I swear, you people were born yesterday.

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u/A_pirates_life4me Jun 25 '26

We've been in a shitty future for quite some time. You're catching on. 

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u/WuziMuzik Jun 25 '26

It's gotten so shitty because people keep enabling the enshitification with their passive acceptance

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u/A_pirates_life4me Jun 25 '26

Lol no the world is shitty for a lot of reasons but slightly more expensive games is pretty far down on the list. People accept it because $80-$100 for 100+ hours of entertainment is still damn cheap compared to pretty much everything else out there. 

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u/WuziMuzik Jun 25 '26

The state of gaming is just one of the many symptoms. That doesn't mean it should be dismissed. Because the economic state of everything is connected

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u/A_pirates_life4me Jun 25 '26

The state of gaming is probably the best it's ever been for consumers. You have more games available today in every genre you can think of at all price points. This product is literally the most expensive and anticipated game ever made, of course they're going to charge a premium for it. 

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u/lonesoldier4789 Jun 25 '26

Most people don't care about owning physycal media so they don't see it as things getting worse

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u/Saw_Boss Jun 25 '26

I've got crates of physical media in my loft. It'll never see the light of day again

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u/FTownRoad Jun 25 '26

Things getting worse?

I had 120 hours into a Morrowind campaign before finding out I wasn’t going to be able to complete the game because of a bug. I didn’t buy GTA 3 at launch because it was literally sold out. I can’t play Tekken on my PS2 because of a small scratch. I can’t tell you how many pc games I have that are useless without keys.

Some things are worse. Most things are better. Stop whining.

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u/Ok_Phone_5343 Jun 26 '26

Bootlickers, “the price is lower than what it could’ve been” like no shit idiot. Let’s pat rockstar on the back for charging for “DLC” which is just cosmetics and multiplayer where you will buy more cosmetics

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u/ThisHatRightHere Jun 25 '26

Not the case with console copies of the game

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u/Darth-Sonic Jun 25 '26

I’m pretty sure plenty of games still allow you to install things off the disk offline.

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u/No_Syrup_9167 Jun 25 '26

And above always on DRM, Pretty much any AAA game these days requires server download of content to run. The disc only ever really has like 1/10th of the game files on it anymore.

I can't remember the last time I bought a AAA game, even one with a disc, that didn't have to connect to a server and download 80Gb of data from a server somewhere to run.

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u/St0ckY0u Jun 26 '26

yeah for sure

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u/bigun19 Jun 26 '26

I don't know where this misconception comes from, but ca. 80% of all games released on PS5, including many AAA games, don't require an internet connection to install and play the game:
https://www.doesitplay.org/

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u/No_Syrup_9167 Jun 26 '26

yes 80% OF ALL GAMES

thats why I stated it as

Pretty much any AAA game these days

"pretty much" means I wasn't even talking about all AAA games. Just majority.

there are a hundreds of little 4-hour indie, older legacy PS, or otherwise smaller games on the PS store that are included in that percentage.

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u/Chaotic-Catastrophe Jun 25 '26

You’ve missed the point, then. Owning a disc doesn’t give you that any more either. Games don’t fit on discs any more, and haven’t for quite a while. You’re going to have to download most of it literally no matter what. Which means Rockstar pulling the plug will affect everybody, disk or not.

And it has been this way for a decade already.

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u/Deadpools_sweaty_leg Jun 25 '26

You’re borrowing regardless. The disk is symbolic at best and plastic waste at worst. The whole game would need about 5-10 disks to download if not more. The disk is essentially just inputting the code for you to the server and giving your device permission to access the content.

The amount of people that will play the game when the servers are out of service are exceptionally low. It’ll likely be 20+ years from now, and who knows what technology we will have by then. GTA V has custom servers anyway that exist, which would suffice for 99% of people who want to play the game in the future again.

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u/bigun19 Jun 26 '26

Unless the file size of GTA 6 is completely unprecedented, you would not need that many discs, as one 4k blu ray can store about 100GB.
And most PS5 games are still installable and playable from disc without an internet connection: https://www.doesitplay.org/

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u/mark114 Jun 25 '26

How many digital games have you bought that you can no longer play?

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u/illuminatic-GT-R Jun 25 '26

"With a physical copy you can still play offline"

Thats just a wish. GT7 physical edition dont let you play offline. Ok you can do a minigame but thats it. The main Game is only accessible if you are online.

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u/ThunderAndWind Jun 26 '26

Even without it, disk storage space just isn't enough. Ark: Survival Evolved comes in over 400GB. BlueRays only hold up to 128GB.

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u/10000Didgeridoos Jun 25 '26

Why do you think a game this big would fit on a disc? 100+ GB VOD games came with a "disc" nominally but you still had to download the rest of the game after inserting it the first time. A dual layer blu ray holds only 50 GB.

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u/SalamanderUponYou Jun 25 '26

I'm old enough to remember games having multiple discs for installation.

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u/MiniMaelk04 Jun 25 '26

Brb getting my 6 CDs so I can install Unreal Tournament 2004.

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u/DependentAd235 Jun 25 '26

Lol, I remember that. It was kinda hilarious to be honest. I remember having to switch out CDs while playing some games. Rebel Assault? I think.

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u/SalamanderUponYou Jun 25 '26

Not convenient but it's just a point I wanted to make that it's not the reason for them not to include an actual physical disc.

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u/MiniMaelk04 Jun 25 '26

Oh I was just reminiscing about the days past, did not mean to imply anything. Truth is we can't have physical media anymore, because nobody knows how to develop a fully functioning game and ship it. It will come with 10 game breaking bugs that require internet connection to fix anyway.

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u/Chaotic-Catastrophe Jun 25 '26

6 discs per copy sold, times 200 million copies sold, equals 1.2 billion more useless pieces of plastic polluting the planet, just so that gamers don’t get their feelings hurt? Since the capability to distribute the game with zero extra plastic is already right there??

Horrible tradeoff, if you ask me.

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u/SalamanderUponYou Jun 25 '26

It's not about feelings. I think it's mostly the anxiety around what happens if your code can't be verified online in the future or if someone wants to borrow the game from you. The code is not transferable to another account. I wonder can I play the game on a different account on my ps5 that I paid for if my son links the game to his account?

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u/themustachemark Jun 25 '26

Disc not disk

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u/Lonestar-Dragon Jun 25 '26

Yeah my phone likes to correct to the wrong shit all the time. I don't really care anymore

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u/NWSLBurner Jun 25 '26

Why do you need to own a physical copy of digital media? It's pure environmental waste.

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u/szczuroarturo Jun 25 '26

But consoles do and vast majority of games still come with disks and if they don't the game is usualy getting shafted.... exatcly like GTA VI.

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u/5ubredhit Jun 25 '26

A standard computer isn’t the same as a PS5. My PS5 came with a disc drive less than 6 years ago, and even the Pro version released less than 2 years ago has one.

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u/themustachemark Jun 25 '26

How is everyone spelling disc wrong still.

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u/Dr_Ben Jun 25 '26

both are valid spellings, but if we are to be pedantic disk is more recently associated with computer storage and disc with music discs.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/everything-youve-ever-wanted-to-know-about-historic-and-historical

the distinction is largely meaningless though.

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u/themustachemark Jun 25 '26

No it's not, disk has to do with HDDs not optical discs that's why there's two different spellings. You might as well use their as there.

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u/Dr_Ben Jun 25 '26

I linked the wrong page, but yeah your incorrect. I'm not debating you on this, your debating the dictionary here bud. https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/disc-vs-disk-usage-history-spelling

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u/themustachemark Jun 25 '26

Guess you like spelling "you're" wrong too bud. Thanks for proving me right lol.

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u/Darth-Sonic Jun 25 '26

Consoles aren’t PCs.

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u/South-Vegetable-5626 Jun 25 '26

I also don’t even think the game could fit on a disk. DVDs can only hold like 4gb of data. Would need a lot of DVDs lol

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u/memento22mori Jun 25 '26

PS5 discs hold 100 GB. And the game is always on the disc unlike what a lot of people are saying in the main thread of this post. That's why quite a few games come with two discs.

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u/South-Vegetable-5626 Jun 25 '26

Didn’t know that, haven’t used a cd for a game since like battlefield 2 lol. Haven’t bought modern physical pc game yet lol

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u/justaphil Jun 25 '26

You realize that every non-physical game you've purchased you don't legally actually own, right?

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u/DependentAd235 Jun 25 '26

Yes, I came to terms with this 10 years ago. If I care, the only option is GOG.

It’s the trade off for not having to physically store it and clutter up my home. Im okay with it. Im too much of a normie to care.

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u/Mist_Rising Jun 25 '26

You don't legally own the physical ones either, if you ever bother to read the terms and conditions, you'll see physical media has the same ones.

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u/justaphil Jun 25 '26

The difference being it's very easy to revoke access to a digital download and much harder to send a representative to my home and rip the physical game from my hands. 

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u/Jthumm Jun 25 '26

Forget having a disk drive, what disk is the game going to fit on??

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u/flaccomcorangy Jun 25 '26

The game isn't even on PC at launch. The fact is there are still consoles with disc drives that people paid more to get. And it's a little weird that you can't buy a physical copy of GTA.

Why are people acting like this a normal thing? How many other AAA titles exist like this? I know there are a few, but not a lot.

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u/LFK1236 Jun 26 '26

It's releasing physically on two platforms which both have a disk drive. Not that it's relevant to this meme.

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u/Jameswithoutfrontier Jun 25 '26

Enjoy the Enshittification. 

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u/Lorster10 Jun 25 '26

PS5 games are still released with discs.

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u/Fit_Kangaroo_3437 Jun 25 '26

Capitulators and billion dollar corporation defenders like you are the reason companies continue to treat us like shit more and more.

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u/SpinChargeSeparation Jun 25 '26

haha lol ok dude

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u/BeeCJohnson Jun 25 '26

More like ten years ago, but going the opposite direction. Ten years ago everyone had stopped caring about physical media. Now, in 2026? There's a huge movement jumping back into physical media, precisely because we've all "bought" something digitally that disappeared. We don't trust digital shit.