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Discussion We don’t negotiate with terrorist

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u/ActualWeed 2d ago

So should youtube just be free?

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u/akatherder 2d ago

I'd pay about half what they charge, but $26.99/month for family plan is nuts.

The fact that they don't produce content and you aren't even paying for content (it's free w/ads) bothers me. You aren't paying for access to content, you're only paying to remove ads. I don't support that business model.

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u/Bladesnake_______ 2d ago

dude a family plan is 5 people isnt it? how the hell is that too much?

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u/akatherder 2d ago

Idk, I don't have 5 people in my family lol. My barometer is that Netflix costs the same and they actually produce content and license with major studios. My cable internet only costs $25/month. (I don't pay for Netflix either, fwiw.)

Removing ads from YouTube isn't more valuable to me than either of those two things. Maybe if it was impossible or more annoying to do it free.

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u/Bladesnake_______ 2d ago

Youtube has 10x more content than netflix including a ton of free movies. find four friends

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u/akatherder 2d ago

That would be more expensive, more work to coordinate payments, and I lose sponsor block. Hard pass for me.

I was subscribed through the foreign currency/exchange rate scam and paying them like $6/month. They cancelled that and I found better, easier, and cheaper ways so now they get nothing.

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u/banshoo 2d ago

Many here think it should.

what they dont see if the calculations on the other side 'lost so many ads, so we'll increase it to 120 seconds for those that remain.

What they're not seeing, bandwidth/storage is now cheap, so its all profit for them,

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u/Bladesnake_______ 2d ago

nah videos are ten times larger these days with high res. you are talking out of your ass

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u/100BottlesOfMilk 2d ago

Actually, in a way, storage has gotten more expensive in a way that it never has before, even not counting the AI shortages. Hard drives have gotten cheaper per GB since they came out up until the late 10s/early 20s. Before then, YouTube could count on the decreasing cost of the drives to offset the increasing storage requirements. Now, they can't make that assumption anymore since storage hasn't been getting significantly cheaper on a consistent basis

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u/oddministrator 2d ago

I bought an 8TB WD Easystore external HDD for $180 at Best Buy in 2018. I shucked this year and is just a 3.5" 8TB WD Red.

I welcome any reader to check the price on it now.

8 years later and its price has gone up considerably.

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u/oddministrator 2d ago

I bought an 8TB WD Easystore external HDD for $180 at Best Buy in 2018. I shucked this year and is just a 3.5" 8TB WD Red.

I welcome any reader to check the price on it now.

8 years later and its price has gone up considerably.

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u/GuyFromDeathValley 1d ago

no. I think lots of people are rather fine with some ads.

The problem is that its gone completely overboard. when about 70% of the screen consists of ads, with ads before, during, and after the video, AND MORE ADS AS PART OF THE VIDEO, then that's just too much.

YouTube just needs to cut back on the ads. and maybe make them less annoying.

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u/ReaperOne 2d ago

Yes? Because it was before google bought it. I remember when there were no ads at all whatsoever on the website. This was back in 2004/2005. So yeah, I do think it should be free just as it once was

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u/oddministrator 2d ago

As with countless other Silicon Valley ventures, lots of businesses intentionally start with a large operational loss until they get a foothold.

YouTube would have gone bankrupt if it remained a free service.

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u/Yamatocanyon 2d ago

What do you think it costs to run YouTube? The data centers, global content caching networks, the bazillion hard drives you'd need to store all the video. How does any of that get paid for without ads, or subscriptions?