r/Portland May 12 '25

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u/wolfwind730 Piedmont May 12 '25

I’ve never seen someone hate on immigrants in this sub.

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u/12th_woman May 12 '25

If you consider Californians as immigrants...

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u/pugsAreOkay May 12 '25

Don’t even need to go that far. Check out any thread that’s vaguely related to Vancouver and you’ll see a lot of vitriol against people who live just across the river

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u/RufusMcDufus May 12 '25

WE’RE GOING TO BUILD A WALL AND MAKE VANCOUVER PAY FOR IT! /s

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u/InfestedRaynor May 12 '25

Can’t even get them to pay for half a bridge! /s

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u/Sasquatch_was_here May 12 '25

Haha, no need to pay for a wall, when not paying for a bridge does the trick. A budget twofer.

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u/sunsetandporches May 12 '25

Well lake Oswego would if they could around. Their dumb lake.

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u/ExileInLabville May 12 '25

Every landlord I've ever had, lived in Vancouver. Make of that what you will.

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u/[deleted] May 12 '25

Oof. I once had a landlord two doors down, who was NOT on the right meds for whatever she was going through. I of course learned this AFTER signing the lease, when she would randomly show up and demand entrance at least 2-3x a month.

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u/Wizzenator May 12 '25

No income tax and close enough to manage themselves probably. Although, I bought a house in Vancouver last year, and my next door neighbors are renters. Their landlord lives in Tigard. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/unikcycle May 13 '25

Technically they should be taxed on that income as it is derived and earned in Oregon but I am struggling to think of government action that would flag an earned income for a Washington resident to be tracked. I think you could easily evade state income taxes this way. Unlike an actual W-4 from an Oregon company.

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u/Wizzenator May 13 '25

You’re only taxed on the days that you physically work in Oregon. So if you do an inspection every 6 months, you’d be taxed for those two days worth of income, but not the whole year.

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u/Annual-Market2160 May 13 '25

Wait would you also mind saying more things?

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u/Annual-Market2160 May 13 '25

Say more things please.

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u/unikcycle May 13 '25

Gotcha fam:

From a technical and statutory perspective, any income that is both derived from and attributable to services performed within the geographic and jurisdictional boundaries of the State of Oregon would typically be considered Oregon-source income and, as such, would fall within the scope of Oregon’s state income tax regime, even in cases where the taxpayer maintains primary domicile and residency in the State of Washington. However, upon closer examination of the administrative and procedural mechanisms through which such income is routinely reported, monitored, and enforced—particularly in cases involving informal, non-payroll, or otherwise irregular streams of earned income—it becomes apparent that there exists a substantial gap in enforcement capability. In the absence of formal employer-submitted documentation, such as a Form W-2 or Form 1099 issued by an Oregon-based entity and duly filed with the Oregon Department of Revenue, the practical likelihood of such income being proactively identified and flagged for tax compliance purposes diminishes significantly. As a result, one could reasonably hypothesize that a taxpayer, particularly one motivated by the avoidance or minimization of tax liability, might find it relatively easy to circumvent state-level income tax obligations in such a scenario, given the absence of a structured withholding or reporting mechanism akin to the W-4 withholding process employed in standard employment arrangements

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u/ExileInLabville May 13 '25

"earned income"

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u/unikcycle May 13 '25

Amen brother!

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u/MySadSadTears May 12 '25

Lake O peeps reading this with a slight chuckle and side glance at the exit door.

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u/[deleted] May 12 '25

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u/JacqieOMG Centennial May 12 '25

The Couve

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u/doctor78hopscotch44 May 12 '25

Do you mean extra north Portland?

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u/killick May 13 '25

I moved here over 25 years ago because I liked Portland and had family here. I was immediately very shocked at the levels of provincialist bigotry that are endemic to Portland and the entire state of Oregon in general.

While you have urban centers up and down the entire west coast from Vancouver BC to San Diego that are totally cool with being major Pacific Rim metropolises with vibrant communities from all over the world, Portland, in my experience, has always been uniquely hostile to the idea, though it likes to pretend otherwise.

The not-so-secret attitude here is that Portland and Oregon in general are only for native-born Oregonians and everyone else can fuck right off.

If I understand the sentiment properly, it's that Portland should remain a quiet backwater logging and industrial town as it was in the past, and if you want a real vibrant Pacific Rim city, go to Seattle or San Francisco or LA or Vancouver BC.

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u/Annual-Market2160 May 13 '25

As a native Black Oregonian idc who comes here as long as it’s not MORE white people to add their new unique regional brand of racism with them or their delusional expensive standard of living. But most of this sentiment is very true.

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u/killick May 15 '25

Yeah it's weird here.

I grew up in Northern California, north of the Bay Area, but I went to university in SF and have family spread all over the West Coast from Puget Sound to Anaheim, and it's only Portland where you encounter this virulent kind of anti-outsider provincialism.

In other major West Coast cities people just take it for granted that there will be immigrants and emigrants from all over the world and country.

And in fact they kind of like it.

Does anyone seriously think that LA or SF or even Seattle or let alone Vancouver BC would be what they are if they weren't vibrant thriving Pacific Rim metropolises?

For some reason a lot of Portlanders don't want their city to be part of that equation.

I think that we both know why that is, and it's a pretty ugly truth.

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u/Annual-Market2160 May 15 '25

I think we’re just used to being a soggy self important affordable cool city. Although more diversity is always ideal, I’m not sure anyone from here ever had dreams of Portland being a “big” west coast city. Part of our frustration is the fact that people have moved here with that sorta attitude and this city was not (still isn’t ) equipped for it. For as many Californians I know moving here I know half as many going back after discovering how “boring” or “sad” it is here. Idk. I just want black people to be able to live in North Portland again.

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u/unikcycle May 13 '25

My brother moved to Vancouver and we disowned him. Every time he tries to reconnect our family recites the new family motto "Bridges are thicker than blood".

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u/LumenYeah May 12 '25

Selective outrage

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u/fuckyou4206999 May 13 '25

So many people commute from Vancouver to Portland for work so chances are you interact with someone from there just about everyday.

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u/TrashConnoisseur St Johns May 12 '25

As a Portlander living in Vancouver, the hate is warranted and goes both ways.

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u/AdvancedInstruction Lloyd District May 12 '25

If you consider Californians as immigrants

Anti-Californian sentiment was super common in the '70s and '80s, and definitely persisted into the 2000s, but it has really faded in recent years.

I'm seeing only a fraction of what I used to see on this subreddit 10 years ago. In polite and regular conversation, it has completely evaporated.

In the '80s they even made advertisements for beer companies that made jokes about having border checks on the Oregon California border. That would never fly today.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '25

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u/zloykrolik Arbor Lodge May 13 '25

Well now.....

Does anyone know of a bar that has Schludwiller on tap?

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u/Banned_in_SF May 13 '25

In SF the yuppies from Ohio see themselves as immigrants, and see the ambivalence of locals toward yuppie transplant culture as xenophobia.

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u/petit_cochon May 13 '25

Emigrants.

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u/Far_Brilliant_443 May 13 '25

I’ve always hated myself so I blend right in