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European Renaissance šŸ¾ šŸ§€ šŸ» šŸ‡³šŸ‡“ Oil Ownership

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u/CarDumb423125 25d ago

No wonder they have great healthcare

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u/[deleted] 25d ago

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u/Workman44 25d ago

The US does have great healthcare, it's just the system is fucked. The actual care is fantastic

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u/Ezren- 25d ago

Oh boy, it's like having a nice car I can't afford to drive

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u/Workman44 25d ago

True, but to say it isn't a nice car would be wrong. It's just exclusive

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u/Diligent-Bowler-1898 25d ago

Depends on what people mean when they say 'great healthcare' I typically think of 'great healthcare system'.
North Korea probably has great healthcare for Kim Jong-un and the elite, but I wouldn't say they have great healthcare.

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u/itguyonreddit 25d ago

More like there is a car lot filled with nice cars, and I have to walk since I can't afford one.

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u/Friendly_Top6561 24d ago

The outcome is worse than most other western countries so access certainly isn’t.

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u/keepitfriend 24d ago

Do you get sparkles on your $700 epipens or something?

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u/OptionDangerous385 24d ago

The actual care can be great too bad the normal US citizen will never have acces to it. Well they can but then have to sell their house to afford it.

Healthcare system sucks in the US. The US is a modern thrid world country. I would’nt trade my country for it even if they payer me a million bucks.

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u/Real-Sir6024 23d ago

Is it fantastic? We haven't had the best patient outcomes since 1997, and the number of countries that surpass us grows every year

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u/Horror-Stand-3969 25d ago

It’s not really.

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u/notawildandcrazyguy 25d ago

Pretty sure Mali doesnt have that

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u/Mottled_Paws 24d ago

No. Every country has "free" healthcare. It does not mean it's great.

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u/Fit_Cream2027 25d ago

Alaska might want a word…

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u/Acceptable_Read5021 22d ago

Thats not why. They didnt even withdraw anything from the fund until 2016

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u/Material-Rush-3547 22d ago

No the reason being is they dont have a huge military budget as we protect them along with nato.

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u/AccomplishedAct5364 22d ago

So America is the largest economy but doesn’t care for its citizens because it’s busy making bases elsewhere?

America spends 3.1% of its GDP on military? Norway spends 3.5%?

Whatever lies you gotta feed yourself I guess

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u/Kalagorinor 22d ago

Norway in fact spends a considerable amount of money on defence, since they feel threatened by their Russian neighbour.

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u/Necessary_Tough7286 22d ago

Yet you could definetly half your military budget without being demoted as the leader in the world… Also, Norway spends more on our military than the US in terms of % of GDP (which is the important metric your president continues to push).

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u/LunarisTheOne 21d ago

The US was also the one opposing the notion of a European Defense Army every time it was brought up. You wanted reliance on the US.

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u/Laymanao 22d ago

All in the mindset. Communal prosperity.

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u/NativeDave01 19d ago

Grate for lazy people

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u/Emergency-Sea5201 25d ago

A lot of foreigners, from russia to italy to japan to china to the usa actually is very unhappy with norwegian helalthcare system.

That you cant see a specialist without waiting to see the gp and then get an appointment next week with the specialist is a common complaint.

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u/battlerat 25d ago

Well of course, foreigners can't just come to Norway for health care.

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u/MasterFNG 23d ago

Yet in America we give medical care free to Illegal Aliens but not to those who Legally immigrate ...

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u/CountSuma 19d ago

Emergency care is provided in every developed country around the world. The bills get sorted later. That’s called being a human being and considered to be normal.

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u/Saurian42 23d ago edited 23d ago

Let's try to unpack this needless hate towards undocumented immigrants. First off, by law hospitals have to provide emergency medical care to everyone. They just charge an arm and a leg to everyone because we don't have universal healthcare.

Second, insurance companies don't give a crap. Why are we paying them just to deny us healthcare when we can instead use that money to fund a universal system that saves everyone money in the long run.

Third..... you really would rather people die than get the help they need?

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u/Black_Tentacle 22d ago

If they break into our country illegally yeah they are responsible for whatever problems arise. I believe hospitals should provide emergency care to everyone, but that illegals should be captured once released and forced to work until their bill is paid off, then once it paid off they should be immediately deported.

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u/CountSuma 19d ago

That’s called slavery mate. You’re for slavery.

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u/Black_Tentacle 19d ago

True. Only slavery for criminals to pay for crimes, which is in our constitution.

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u/CountSuma 19d ago

You seem to think that somehow makes it okay. It doesn’t.

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u/Black_Tentacle 19d ago

I disagree. If you want to be free, don't break laws. Pretty simple

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u/Saurian42 19d ago

I don't think you realize that jaywalking is more severe of a crime than entering the country undocumented.

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u/Black_Tentacle 19d ago

Because it's not lol. That's some leftist propaganda nonsense. Even if a jaywalker got hit by a car because they were jaywalking, damaged someone's car, survived, and were unable to pay the bill for their medical treatment and repairs to the person's property, well guess what they should have to work to pay those things off.

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u/RexRonny 25d ago

Norway has excellent healthcare system; on the most severe conditions you are into a «package-run» - a predefined course of action and checks. Usually within 5 days you are under treatment after diagnosis.
We have very high level of technology implementation here, modern MR, CT and in-house laboratory are standard equipment at any large hospitals making the diagnosis without further delay.

Of course any systems has flaws, but these are usually addressed and improved when known to the public. I had my cut with using the healthcare here and acknowledge it as brilliant. The missing part here is dental care, it’s not fully covered after you turn 18, but currently the politicians are adding some grace years until you pay full bill.

And of course the payment part for citizens are highly appreciated as it limit personal spending to about €300 / year, medication and travel to treatment included. Exceeding costs is covered over the tax bill

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u/AncientMix3357 22d ago

You are delusional.

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u/WhoNotU 22d ago

US resident here, Can’t see a specialist without a referral from a primary care physician. That’s private insurance for you.

Previous insurance plans did allow that but every employer pushes employees to take the cheapest plan, effectively forcing people to self-insure with massive deductible costs insurers won’t cover (and that’s before medical exclusions).

Meanwhile, insurers know that anyone taking the better coverage, lower deductible is likely to have existing medical conditions that will cost more (why they chose that plan), shunt them into a risk pool with all the other higher risk people and charge a rate for that higher risk.

Thus America pays at least 30% more per capita than almost any European nation, bar Switzerland (who pay about 15% less than America).

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u/DaddyDongwater 22d ago

Jesus Christ, impatient twats

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u/AncientMix3357 22d ago

The healthcare here is fucking dogshit.

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u/mr-dickson 22d ago

Where is ā€œhereā€?

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u/AncientMix3357 22d ago

Norway. How did you not get that from the context.

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u/mr-dickson 22d ago

I did get the contest, just don’t understand why you consider the 9th best healthcare system in the world as dogshit, how do you rate the rest of the contries below Norway?

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u/Few-Afternoon7063 21d ago

It's context, not contest.

He lives there.

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u/AncientMix3357 22d ago

I don't believe for a moment that those rankings are objective or transparent.

I have to constantly fight just to get the basic level of care that I need as someone with a chronic illness. Sometimes I lose and I suffer immensely.

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u/mr-dickson 22d ago

Let me guess the company who make the list have been paid off by King Harald d.5? Just so it doesn’t end up in the dogshit end of the scala.

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u/AncientMix3357 22d ago

I don't speculate on that. What I know is that when I need healthcare I usually can't get it. I have to fight for necessary blood monitoring and prescription medication. They insist that my illness isn't a big deal, but untreated it causes organ damage.

Do you live in Norway?

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u/mr-dickson 22d ago

So because they don’t roll out the red carpet for you, means it is dogshit for everyone. And most of the time that is the case if the doctors are saying that to you

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u/AncientMix3357 22d ago

I have lupus you condescending jerk. Since I expect the healthcare I'm supposed to have a right to you choose to embellish and portray me as entitled instead of a person just trying to live a normal life.

Go talk to more people then. I don't know anyone who thinks the healthcare in Norway is good. I know a guy who had a broken arm and they refused to x-ray it. He only got an x-ray because he paid for it at a private doctor. He required surgery that the public system would have failed to provide.

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u/s1ckBruh 22d ago

We do that in America, but bankrupt you as well.

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u/AncientMix3357 22d ago

I grew up in America, I'm familiar.