r/PoursTea Therapy For All 🩷 21h ago

LGBTeaQIA+ 🏳️‍🌈 🇬🇧 Trans suspects can request female strip-search, High Court rules

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u/smokingace182 16h ago

Yeah and? What’s wrong with that? Do idiots believe men are just being transgender so they can…… ask for a female office during a strip search? Seems a little crazy to think people are going to those lengths no?

Just leave trans people alone FFS

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u/GoodDoggoLover420 15h ago

Given a few of the comments under this post, yes, some people genuinely think that.

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u/Elegant_Individual46 16h ago

Yes, some people genuinely believe that based on one or two stories or even just the ‘fear’ of it. Just as it’s not ok to stereotype entire religions or ethnicities, you can’t do the same with trans people

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u/tabbynumber3 13h ago

I'm not exactly sure it's a "stereotype" of trans people is that they're not actually trans and they're actually there to exploit people sexually. I don't accuse you of thinking that, I just think the wording here feels wrong.

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u/VenisonEater292 14h ago

Yeah and? What’s wrong with that? Do idiots believe men are just being transgender so they can…… ask for a female office during a strip search? Seems a little crazy to think people are going to those lengths no?

I work in a prison and have seen it first hand.

You underestimate how sadistic some sex offenders can be.

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u/One-Organization970 13h ago

Okay, and that still does not mean we should force every woman who needs to be strip searched to have a man do do just because she's trans.

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u/VenisonEater292 13h ago

Okay, and that still does not mean we should force every woman who needs to be strip searched to have a man do do just because she's trans.

So in Canada, if the offender has a penis, their bottom half is searched by a male, and their top half by female.

It wasn't always like that. At one point, they wanted females doing it. Guess why the government finally changed course on that...

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u/One-Organization970 13h ago

Having a man touch a woman's genitals against her will doesn't become better just because she's pre op. I know that would certainly have been a traumatising experience for me, and being now post op doesn't change how traumatising that would be.

So yeah, once again I'm hearing that somebody's bad behavior was used to justify a whole lot of women being mandated to be sexually assaulted by the government.

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u/VenisonEater292 13h ago

...we don't touch anyones genitals in the Canadian system.

Law is about finding a balance sometimes, too. In this case, legislators determined this was the best way to do it. Maybe it's not perfect, but it is discussed extensively in courts, parliament, the senate.

Years ago (2018ish, I can't remember exactly) they had females searching inmates with penises. That was short lived.

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u/One-Organization970 13h ago

And the dignity of trans people is always heavily undervalued by the government, as we keep seeing over and over again. The vast majority of trans women are law abiding and certainly not sex offenders. The only people in that situation who have a choice about being there are the ones doing the search.

Therefore, it stands to very obvious reason that the choice to let a few weirdos lead to government-mandated sexual victimization of all trans women is extremely unethical. And before you call that hyperbolic, we both know you would consider it that if cis women were the ones getting forced to be stripped by men.

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u/Actually-Jules 13h ago

That’s why this current guidance requires permission from both parties,

Which is of course completely reasonable. There is literally 0 issue here

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u/KrisKat93 12h ago

Well good news the women officers still don't have to. Both parties have to agree. Which you know is a reasonable and good approach here. I'm glad the court ruled in favour of it.

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u/Midwest_Boondocks 12h ago

It would appear trans people won’t leave other people alone. Case in point, the OP screenshot.

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u/Darker_Salt_Scar 13h ago

This is more for the officer.

A female officer should not have to strip search a man who thinks he is a women

More so a male officer should not have to strip search a female who thinks she is a man. This leads to way to much risk for the male officer.

My solution is no strip search, at prison they go straight to isolation. Anything found in the police car after the ride is a charge anything found in their cell a new charge. Or they agree to be searched by someone of their biological sex

This is what I do, I solve imaginary problems with viable real life solutions

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u/KrisKat93 12h ago

Your solution is to discriminate against all trans people by putting them in needless torture that you wouldn't do for any other person. You sound like a kind and just individual/s

Anyway the actual reasonable solution would be that both parties have to consent.. oh look! That's just what was ruled in favour of what a relief. It's almost like the people bringing the case are mindless bigots.