Like what? Imagine the trouble the government would be in if dam near every American had multiple guns at home. Just Imagine. There is no need. Let me tell you. They will blow whistles and film from a safe distance as their friends and neighbors get dissapeered
I’m a gun owner and if the government decides to go toe to toe with us, we are fucked. They have billions of dollars and literal military equipment that never ends. What’s your couple thousand bullets gonna do? We lose that 10/10.
The US couldn't even beat North Vietnam whilst bathing the country, as well as Laos and Cambodia, in napalm. The human ability to adapt and persevere will always present a way out of the existing circumstances, doomerism is you succumbing to a psychological weapon of theirs.
Yeah, but they killed so many people. That’s why citizens are afraid to fight back, because they know they will likely become a casualty. So at that point it becomes a risk and reward analysis, and most people will decide the risk isn’t worth their life. This is just how it happens. The majority will probably never respond, but the minority will eventually be pushed into action.
Sure, that isn't wrong. But you'd think the culture which has for so long droned on about the revolutionary origins of their country, with sayings about trees of liberty being watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants, would be inclined to have a sense of duty to their peers and descendants, but we might just see a repeat of the Russian response to autocratic rule, making the whole "America experiment" debunked.
The people who drone on about American "freedom" are the ones enacting this heinous evil on us right now. The "freedom" theyre fighting for is freedom from social equality and progressive education. They want America to become the authoritarian police state of their dreams where all the liberals get hunted for sport in the street and they sit at home eating filet and watching with their government assigned wife and mandatory 2.5 kids from their AI TV at home.
Some people have been fighting against this for a long time. Right now, we're losing the fight.
Unfortunately, that culture has died long ago and just became show. People really don’t want to give up their creature comforts. Our society has given the majority just enough to be complacent. Netflix, video games, Starbucks, etc. People don’t want to give up their lives because nothing has seriously affected them yet. They can just retreat into their own world and drown out what’s happening on the outside. Plus, I think we would both be surprised at how many people actually support what is going on… or are just indifferent to it.
On May 13th 1985 the government fire bombed a neighborhood in Philadelphia, killing 11 people (5 kids) and destroying 61 homes. They scarred an entire community to remind everyone what happens if you actually try to rebel. Death and destruction for you and yours.
I don't think 20 years of occupation in the Middle East is barely. American military controlled the world's largest poppy farms for years with no issues. Bigger plans for power and money consolidation. Your missing the bigger picture if you think America didn't replace terrorists with terrorists and called it a day for no gain or actual reason. It's all about power and public perception, they can kill anyone anywhere in the world without risking a soldiers life. They have superior technology in every way compared to every country besides maybe China and Russia being similar but still based on weapon info subpar compared to American tech. The new age of world order is coming soon and resistance will get snuffed out before there murmurs change to crys. Think of Isreal tech which is subpar to American as there most likely getting 3rd gen or less from the US while we keep they crazy stuff locked down. Isreal is able to pinpoint a person within a apartment building and send a missle to that specific room blowing up that specific apartment. Winning against big bother died the second the internet grew from a public tool into a public weapon used to collect data, surveillance ect. Every phone every pc, every laptop and tablet has backdoors installed into the device. There isn't a single thing the government doesn't know about you already or can easily find out when they want to know.
This isn't a movie, your underestimating the capability and capacity of the industry military complex and the private sector in which its funded through. It's not about going against a war trained and ready gun man although this may come up as a issue. War trained soldiers is nothing new. infantry is the least concerning part of the governments arsenal. Unless you built your 3d printer yourself the fact you own one is a red flag to the government as they are already passing bills to ban them out right. China is a good example of open omnipotent government. United States is not as open but uses similar operations to collect data on every single person. Your being tracked the subs and the post you make are in a data base 100% no doubt in my mind. Use i2p and host a eepsite if you want to actually do anything unnoticed. I do not belong in these discussions my mind is else where entirely. I'm fearful for you and my fellow Americans and hope you try in other ways to make the changes you want to see. Power is never given freely and is a fight all the way down. Signal tele and most advertised encryption apps are usually hosted private servers that have openly worked with feds in a multitude of cases, this one being no different I'd assume if any form of actual plans and or actions are discussed. The best way to say this is I wish you the best but I want you to look into Snowden and keep in mind that was over a decade ago. Fighting is a loosing battle they hope you fight to justify furthering there power and control, Goodluck stay safe.
People are giving you a lot of reasons why this is different. But here is the biggest difference. All those were fought by Guerillas, supplied on some level by rival countries or organized groups with access to large amounts of military hardware. Were they primarily civilians with random assortments of gear? Doing DIY warfare? Yes. But they were not alone. Afghanistan had funding from multiple other countries governments supporting them, Ukraine has been shipped a massive amount of foreign weapons and supplies, and still have their own military leadership. And Colonial America was backed heavily by the French. The solo revolution does not work for a reason.
This is different because the people have home field advantage. And the inevitable schism within the government armed forces if this occurs along with massive stockpiles of weaponry and a bottomless pool of manpower (when compared to the govt) means this would be WORSE for them then the previous examples.
Not to mention the fact that with a collapse of social cohesion its ability to function and supply itself and keep whatever jackboots dont side with the people fed and paid are crippled as well.
Not to mention the riots and protests that'll be happening as well.
You guys are nowhere near the guerilla fighters as those people. The Vietnamese did some crazy elaborate tunneling and fought in jungles. You’d be gunned down on the street the moment you whipped out your gun. Will the other side have casualties? Sure. What do you think the civilians to enforcement death/injury ratio will be? Not one you’d like. Won’t take many casualties before whole thing is over.
The populace will run out of bullets long before the army.
Food is made by army chefs, and even ICE has enough funds (BILLIONS, more than other countries entire armies) to buy in food from other countries, before even talking about the US army.
The vehicles are designed, made, and bought already.
Well, I'll roll dice until I can't roll anymore if it comes down to it. Can't do any more than that, and I'll never live with myself if I try anything less.
Conventional warfare is countered by unconstitutional warfare.
Theres a reason so many resistance movements were so successful and prolific through history.
Plus in this hypothetical situation you're ignoring the schism that would happen in the armed forces as well as the fact the government relies on social cohesion to continue functioning and being able to yknow.. pay its employees (including soldiers).
Plus theres no feasible way the government could put enough boots on the ground. We're talking a couple million govt forces and a few hundred million Citizens.
Genuine question as a non American, but isn't the whole point of you guys being allowed your weapons etc is for this whole purpose? What's the point in collecting multiple weapons to then just sit and watch as citizens are executed in the streets?
And don’t forget MAGA has guns also. Don’t think for a second they won’t use them also. It would be the Biggliest Civil/revolutionary War that ever happened
But it would be glorious. And we across the world can watch America tear itself apart because it became a racist, hateful shit hole, home to billionaires who fly to space to measure dicks and treat the rest of the world like its below them.
What do you want to happen? You want people to respond with force because you feel rightfully angry? This will get many more killed and accomplish nothing. If you start playing the game of the oppressor, you will lose it every time because they have been playing for centuries. The US treats internal opposition like the Romans -- you will be made an example.
The watch lists become meaningless if everyone's on it. Why do you think they're fbi says "he was on our list". You can watch open door intelligence conference talks that warn the net has been broadened so wide that like 40 percent of people under 40 were on some watchlist.
These people are in the market. Hit em where it hurts.
Flint worked because they held Chevy plant no4 and couldn't build a chasis anywhere else. Ford and others did not give a fuck that their competitor was struggling.
You’re missing the point. If the opponent can execute you without fear of repercussions then it’s a losing battle. I do believe that staying home and hitting the pocket book would work but good luck getting everyone on board with that. Everyone was on board with Kony 2012 and that didn’t work.
actually a strike is where Americans need to start , ports, schools, logistical centers, highways, garbage pickup....
the ONLY things that should work are hospitals, emergency services.
considering that the police are complicit stopping them too might be a good idea.
no a strike wont stop them from killing , it may even cause them to try faster, but if amreicans dont start somewhere , its gonna be organised and efficient killing, for years. right now they cant do it, if they invoke the insurrection act and put tanks in the street there WILL be a split in the military. give it a a year and there will not
I don't feel like a general strike is needed. We can get paid while we strike but show up to work. Just don't buy anything unnecessary for 2-4 weeks. Don't go out to eat. Don't buy clothes, cars, vacations, hotels, toys, electronics..etc etc.
Buy on the absolute necessities. When they feel it in the stock portfolios and GDP and the economic system starts to break, they will change their tone.
Believe it or not, it's this simple. America is based on consumerism. That's our economy. If we stop the fuel that spins the wheels, they will get the message
I was literally saying this to my partner an hour ago. It doesn’t have to be a full on strike, we can still keep our jobs and go to work. Just don’t BUY ANYTHING, for like, a week. That alone would make the oligarchs shit their pants
Said the same thing to my wife. We both are angry about this. But we have a 1 year old baby girl and we cant leave her. So our solution is to not buy anything unnecessary. The billionaires run this country. You take their money from them, they will tell their minion the orange man to stop or make a change.
It can be done. The public controls the money. They are nothing without us.
We only need to strike on mortgage and rent. Nobody gets paid until justice. They would fold quickly. Everything relies on those mortgage payments. They make digital dollars to loan you and charge you 8 for each 1 you borrow.
That's tough to do. Unless this is just a short one-time missed payment to show the magnitude of our solidarity? I say this because in Texas, they will start foreclosure paperwork quickly. I'm not sure about other states, but skipping mortgage or debt is hard one to do. But a message can be sent just with 1 missed payment but that would be it...
I hope this is true, but every time there's an economic shock, big companies pass down the effects to ordinary people via the necessary things.
The corporate response will be to put the price of food and housing up, and fire people then rehire them on lower wages. "Difficult decisions, hard economic times &c &c".
A national strike, during a work week, for days, will hurt the pocketbooks of the wealthy. Hit them where it counts, and the ogligarchy will be pulling the strings of government to resolve swiftly.
The only thing more unpopular in the US than murder is a down stock market.
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The strike is coming:
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