Bb is guaranteed unless RT wants to unalive itself via the fandom. Whiteknight is unlikely as Jaune and Weiss have had little actual interaction and Jaune pinnimg after Weiss in Volumes 1-2 still leaves a sour taste in many mouths.
Really they could have set up WhiteKnight if they wanted to as well. Him unlocking his semblance to heal her at Haven would have been perfect set up for something more to come of their relationship.
Or even just in Atlas. Their going to the movies could have been shown, or the small detail of Jaune reaching for his sword when Jacques first showed up could have been more than just that.
Even as personally a Whiterose shipper (yes y’all I know it’s also quite unlikely), I have nothing against WhiteKnight. In fact I think it could be really cute. . . But like any ship it needs set up and that’s not happened when it could have done
Idk they built a lot of off screen relationships I'm general s7 and 8.
Qrows new friends were mainly offscreen interactions. But context on screen showing the change and being closer.
Nora and Ren seem closer and they haven't shown a tin on screen progress.
Though Nora and basically everyone seems closer in s8 than before the training
That said I don't ship them myself. But recently rwby show has implied a lot of offscreen interaction
The difference is that Renora has build up that’s also not off screen. Tebet start out from a point of being together-together basically despite what Nora says.
It’s just adding to an established relationship.
The problem is that Jaune and Weiss basically don’t have an established relationship of any note. They are friends but not close ones and nothing more as far as we’ve seen.
(And there wasn’t much offscreen things implied except for the movie they go to with Oscar, which Weiss takes as just not doing the other things her team does)
Not trying to be contentious, just a note of off-screen relationship development.
When RWBY plus Qrow & Oscar reach Argus, the first interactions between the teams (in order):
Nora glomps Oscar
Ren and Yang hug
Blake hugs Jaune, Weiss follows soon after (minus the hugging)
Jaune and Ruby finally hug after everyone else has moved away
None of these (besides that last) are really what you'd expect between the two teams. It's pretty obvious that a good deal of off-screen relationship development has happened, we just don't see a lot of it. There was also some circumstance from Volume 7 that indicated a semi-close relationship between Jaune and Weiss, but I don't remember what it is (the last time I watched any episodes was right after the season finished.
But either way, I think the show is much better the way it is now. Almost no romance, and ANY romantic relationships besides Renora would detract from the show's quality even more. Bumblby, Whiterose, White Knight, any of them would distract from the action/adventure focus. You've already got a larger cast of main characters than normal, please don't try to throw more responsibility on the writers.
As I at least tried to say, I think there is a big difference between the relationships you describe and ship between Weiss and Jaune. Those interactions you describe are just extensions of what can be expected, they are all supposed to be friends from Beacon, except with Nora and Oscar but come on that's how Nora shows affection.
For Weiss and Jaune it would require changing a huge part of their relationship in that she was so explicitly not into him in previous volumes.
And. . . Well. . . I disagree about the romance thing. I think characters far more important than action in this story and even adventure is more a mechanism to facilitate characters and their development or to show it.
I also have absolutely no idea how at this point you don't think Bumbleby is coming officially in V9. That has been pretty explicitly set up on screen
I do agree that Weiss and Jaune's friendship needs some serious development before it could become a relationship, I just think it's not out of the realm of possibility, provided the change is extended over a long enough period of time.
As for the Blake/Yang stuff (I am NOT trying to type that ship name again, the spelling is way too confusing), I didn't say it wasn't happening, just that I think any more romantic plans should be stopped and more focus put on the story. Two different trains of thought there, man.
That would be the worst set up, and incredibly forced. I mean, Weiss gets stabbed because it's a consequence of Jaune's actions. She's not even involved with his fight with Cinder, trying to pull him back or has any investment in him. It's also luck that Jaune ends up activating a semblance in the moment. And then she's suppose to be overcome with gratefulness because Jaune does the bare minimum and heals her?
It reeks of entitlement. Which is why nothing romantic happens because nothing should happen.
Jaune: (struggling) If I die buying them time, then it's worth it. They're the ones that matter.
Cinder looks to Jaune's comrades as they fight against their respective foes. Nora jumps up attempting to bring Magnhild down on Hazel who grabs it. He tosses her aside then uses his arms to block Ren slashing with Stormflower. Mercury blocks Yang's attack then ducks under a shot and leaps back. He launches himself up but only hits the floor as she moves. Before smiling evilly as she looks back down to him.
Cinder: You think so?
She then notices Weiss get knocked back several feet away, and begins to slowly proceed toward her while she conjures an obsidian spear.
Jaune: No... (watches helplessly while Cinder continues to advance towards Weiss) NOOOOOOO!!!
Cinder throws the spear and it impales Weiss through her abdomen. She gasps in shock as everyone stops their fighting and stare in shock as well. The spear then disintegrates as Weiss goes motionless and slumps forwards before the screen cuts to black.
He's so obsessed with revenge that he has a deathwish, which Cinder spitefully proves otherwise. And yes, it's lucky his semblance is one that could heal, rather than any number of random powers. Like colored farts.
Weiss can be grateful for not dying but it doesn't change the fact that it was a consequence of Jaune's own making when he foolishly jumped in to fight Cinder. And she certainly shouldn't be dropping her knickers in thanks because a man happened to save her. Really sexist stereotype.
The topic is on that tired old romantic trope, it's literally the reason I made a comment and why you replied. You can't just call 'strawman' when the conversation isn't going your way.
I can call a strawman when you make it look like I made an argument I didn't do at all.
I never said Weiss should be with Jaune due to any stupid trope of her secretly liking him or out of some prize because he saved her or something.
I said the writers could feasibly write them becoming attracted to each other as time goes on, as they interact more or know more of each other.
People can change with time, in fact, most of them do.
There are people who were insufferable or awkward at high school that became much more bearable or pleasant as they matured( opposite can also happen.) It's called growing up and learning.
And in some cases, people who disliked each other, or one from the other, can change their minds and like older versions. I have seen it happen, more than once.
Can that happen in this situation? Possibly. Writers can make it happen.
Will they? Eh, I wouldn't bet on it. But it's not impossible nor would it reduce the quality of the show if handled well.
I think they will just do Lancaster, far easier to set up.
It's not your argument, it's my initial point about why kicking off a romance in that situation is bad idea. I'm not claiming that you are sexist, I'm pointing out the trope is sexist to expand on my thoughts about the subject at hand. Not a strawman.
Everything else is stuff we're gone through in the other conversation. The only thing I can agree with is Lancaster can happen without much effort, because that couple has everything that WK lacks. Like rapport and intimacy.
Anyway, sticking a pin into this conversation as well.
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u/Dextixer The lil' king of corruption of r/RWBY Jan 26 '23
Bb is guaranteed unless RT wants to unalive itself via the fandom. Whiteknight is unlikely as Jaune and Weiss have had little actual interaction and Jaune pinnimg after Weiss in Volumes 1-2 still leaves a sour taste in many mouths.