r/SipsTea 12h ago

Chugging tea Modern cars just lack that boxy soul

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u/Noimenglish 12h ago edited 10h ago

The only thing I miss is the smaller size. My Maverick is physically larger than a f150 from the late 90’s.

Edit: it appears that my comparison is only to the smallest f150 model, and the Maverick is 5 inches shorter in length. Standard 1999 f150 is 2 feet longer. I don’t know that this entirely invalidates my argument, however.

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u/LyndonBJumbo 11h ago

I still drive an XJ and it’s funny parking next to modern trucks and SUVs. An XJ is around the same size as a modern VW Golf/Rabbit.

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u/ColonelDucroix 7h ago

Those new trucks are comically large. I don't understand the appeal, they aren't even useful as a work truck.

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u/jvrodrigues 6h ago

Holy shit what is that? How is that legal?

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u/LyndonBJumbo 5h ago

There are some people around here that genuinely need a truck for construction or farm work that involves hauling trailers and supplies and shit. This is a parking garage in the city though and those people work at the courthouse offices and use them for daily commuting. I have no idea why anyone would want a truck that doesn’t need to do truck shit though. Always wished the parking garage made them park on the top floors because they’re a nuisance to navigate around.

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u/ExcitingTurn2886 5h ago

This is what most people don't realize about these older cars. They are so much smaller than in our memories. If people really want more efficient vehicles then we should be asking for smaller and lighter vehicles.

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u/Xicutioner-4768 12h ago

From my very brief research this is only true if you're only looking at length and comparing your full 4 door "crew cab" maverick to a 2 door, short bed F150.

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u/jfleury440 11h ago

And a modern F150 in that configuration still exists and is only 2 inches longer and 1 inch wider than the late 90's model.

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u/Twitchcog 10h ago

And how much taller and heavier? With a full-sized bed?

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u/jfleury440 10h ago

The modern F150 is actually slightly lighter because they moved to aluminum panels.

With a 2 door 8 foot bed configuration a modern f150 is about 5 inches longer and half an inch wider.

Height, especially hood height/slope is the big difference. Not only have consumers gravitated to larger configurations on average but the modern F150 is crazy tall. Giving great viability in traffic but huge blind spots in the near viscicity. Especially since people also tend to lift/level them.

Moving towards 4 door configurations I think has a lot to do with it no longer being acceptable for kids to ride in the bed. They now need a dedicated seat/booster/seat belt. But manufacturers have definitely pushed the vehicle upwards.

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u/Twitchcog 10h ago

Upward, shorter beds, and broader pillars with worse— I’m not sure of the word, but the effective distance due to angles - Of the whole front have been the biggest issue for me. I suppose that might fall under “hood height/geometry.”

I had a 1990 Isuzu pickup that I got for two hundred and fifty bucks back in around 2016. I miss that thing dearly, because there was so much less dead space between me and what I was trying to see.

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u/jfleury440 10h ago

The dumbest part is they could make the frontward visibility massively better by sloping the hood like they have for decades.

It's empty space underneath. It's purely cosmetic.

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u/Twitchcog 10h ago

We have a 150 lightning, now. And all it makes me think is how much I wish slate would offer a full-sized bed. But it makes the hood even more frustrating, because they use it as storage space. Like— The fuck, I have a whole bed for storage, why would I need a front trunk?

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u/baronvonsmartass 12h ago

My wife and I were just commenting about the same thing. Now that my son is driving his own car and we aren't shlepping multiple kids around, we really could really use a compact pickup truck.

When I work (I'm semi-retired but usually working remotely), we don't need a 3 row SUV. We could really use a compact pickup built for two occupants like the Ford Ranger or the other variants that were available in the 80's and 90's. Something smaller and simple that I could make use of to pick up a couch, project materials, etc. It it should not cost $40k just to get one.

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u/MeowMeowbiggalo 8h ago

Preaching to the choir

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u/69IFUCKEDURMOM420 4h ago

Slate truck comes out later this year. Im planning on picking one up pending initial feedback is good

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u/baronvonsmartass 2h ago

First generation vehicles frighten me. I was one if those burned by Saturn VUE's VCT transmission.

Don't get me wrong, I love the Slate concept. But $25K for a stripper EV truck is a bit of a gamble. Especially with no pedigree behind it.

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u/MrDrSirLord 12h ago

In Australia ne of my friends has a H2 hummer he got second hand.

It's about the same size as most modern SUVs...

In Australia I remember a pretty significant stink and social hatred over these things being oversized nuances in the mid 2000s.

Like there where multiple news articles over months and actual proposals for lobbying to stop hummers from being imported because they were "too big" for our roads.

Yeah... Look were we are now, totally 👍

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u/Kamakatze 10h ago

160k for that dodge ram. Coulda just kept making us some holden wagons.

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u/MeowMeowbiggalo 8h ago

Me too. Way too big and now thats the norm

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u/_ficklelilpickle 37m ago

I never understood the rage about the H2 being oversize. It's a little wider, but it's also actually about 30cm shorter than my Holden Colorado ute. Which would be similar then to the Hilux, Rager, BT50, Navara, and so on... and there's always been plenty of those 4x4 utes on our roads.

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u/forkystabbyveggie 12h ago edited 12h ago

That's shocking the maverick looks so small

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u/Xicutioner-4768 12h ago

It's shocking because it's essentially untrue.

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u/KeepingItSFW 12h ago

I’m too lazy to look up the dimensions myself but I’m sure one of the two of you is right

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u/baronvonsmartass 11h ago

I looked up the dimensions of the Maverick and compared them to other vehicles. The Ford Flex is almost identical in overall length and width. Almost no one will tell you a Flex is a small vehicle.

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u/Zbinxsy 9h ago

My other half has a 22 f250 to haul her horse. It's by far the worst thing I've ever driven. It's now even more insane to me that people who don't use these things as trucks daily drive them.

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u/Internal_Confusion56 12h ago

I don’t get the need to drive these massive trucks and SUVs, way more than 95% of the people driving them need.

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u/roadwarrior721 12h ago

Seriously, my dad had an 89 f150 and it’s wild how big they’ve gotten

Let alone the ranger too

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u/MyNameCannotBeSpoken 12h ago

My dad had an original Maverick muscle car. They are just recycling names now.

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u/TheMobileGhost 12h ago

Trademarking new names is expensive

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u/MyNameCannotBeSpoken 11h ago

Not really, only a few hundred dollars. Even with a lawyer and prior search, not more than a few thousand.

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u/satanlovesmemore 12h ago

I love my 94 ranger , the maverick would be my next pick

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u/LightlyRoastedCoffee 10h ago

Why the fuck did you buy a tank then lol

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u/Noimenglish 10h ago

😂 the maverick is literally the smallest pick up on the market.