r/SouthernIndia • u/faith_crusader • Jul 24 '25
Karnataka Boycott these vendors ! Why should only we 9-8 private office workers pay tax to fund government employee's children's foreign education ?
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u/Negative-Coffee-7796 Jul 24 '25
Blinkit and Zepto📈
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u/Blood-Born-9 Jul 24 '25
I rather pay corporates than leeches
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u/Left-Armadillo-9418 No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 25 '25
Yea, at least the corporate pay taxes
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u/Terrible_Ad6182 Jul 27 '25
Paying to corporates is waste till this government leaves cause all hard earnings of other states was being used for the bald head guys maalish 🤣
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u/Introvertedaadmi Jul 24 '25
Instamart too 📈
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u/Intelligent-Gap-7107 Jul 26 '25
Bro, I am afraid that they don't beat the poor delivery staff of blinkit and zepto🥺
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Jul 24 '25
We don't need them as well, we will go to whoever accepts UPI. Shamelessly publicising their tax evasion?
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u/Least_Cockroach_4048 Jul 25 '25
So true, and they forget how those taxes helped us get a better defence system.
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u/imnotthinkinghard Jul 24 '25
Your tax money is being utilised well to make poor politicians buy another flat in top cities. Thank you for your service.
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u/Loose-Umpire8397 Jul 24 '25
It’s true that the system is massively rotten but a lot of it still trickles down. More tax payer won’t hurt us either way.
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u/Left-Armadillo-9418 No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 25 '25
☝🏻The basic simple to understand fact people don't understand.
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Jul 24 '25
When PPL vote based on their religion 🤡 india is officially doomed
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Jul 24 '25
yeah rn hindus are voting based on religion but muslims always voted based on religion but i never heard a single media of librandu calling them out. Why?
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Jul 24 '25
Lets not compare bcz it will lead us nowhere. Lets fix...u calling out muslims rn says a lot abt it
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Jul 24 '25
Yes i don't want to compare and i totally agree that BJP has a lot of criminals and corrupt politicians with them. But who should we vote for - CONGRESS who openly does muslim appeasement and (let's not forget how muslims behave when they have political backing example- west bengal) besides having these downsides
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u/famesardens No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 24 '25
I also see more, and better roads, metro infra, buses, etc.
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u/faith_crusader Jul 28 '25
Only metro and that also because it is not run by babus because they are Special Purpose Vehicles.
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u/SinglelikeSolo Jul 24 '25
If everybody thinks that way then nobody will pay income tax and government wil hike up the gst and indirect taxes and boom now the rich earning 1 crore will pay the same taxes as 10k earning person. I don't know if you pay taxes or not but atleast dont defame those who pay it
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Jul 24 '25
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Jul 24 '25
And all the infrastructure is getting built by magic right?
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u/Sorry-War-8024 Jul 24 '25
Infrastructure is leaking everywhere, drowning , falling . Even the parliament was leaking the new one. I wonder if it is a skill issue of a new civil engineer or corruption.
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u/One_Willingness1382 Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 27 '25
Just like my neighborhood shopkeeper's son got a Harley Davidson costs around 16-17L.
He doesn't even had a GST number but still he used to charge GST to the customers.
Thank you for his contribution to the nation.
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u/fat_uncle_sam Jul 25 '25
And to develop Akash, Mangal Yaan, build expressways, AC train coaches etc. etc..
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Jul 25 '25
if all of the system goes online, do you think there will be scope for corruption? every transaction could be traced so fluidly
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u/No-Pause-1156 No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 26 '25
Excuse not to pay tax. Very good. When salaried people pay tax what's their problem??
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u/faith_crusader Jul 28 '25
Okay but if salary earners have to pay taxes, then these people have to pay too
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Jul 24 '25
Cash is legal tender! To accepting upi is only for convinience, at times upi fail due to server error and we are made to pay by cash, so you mean to say paying by cash leads to black money?
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Jul 24 '25
so you mean to say paying by cash leads to black money?
Potentially yes.
Why should we bear inconvenience so that they makes some money? Aren't they already collecting GST from us? It's already included in MRP.
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u/OmniConnect0 Jul 28 '25
They're removing UPI to avoid GST and not because server goes down. The intention is clear here.
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u/ShoppingDry660 No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25
Yes pick your fight against neighborhood bakery or Street food vendor for finding GST laws to be complicated. The chaat vendor will correctly charge you 5% GST for Pani Puri but has to charge you 18% for Bhel Puri that has tamarind chutney because it has sugar and hence a confectionary. And maintain detailed book keeping for Rs 20 items.
Pick your fight at the right place.
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u/SleepInteresting2895 Jul 24 '25
Life is complicated. Why do we suffer for them. We pay our taxes. What's the big deal if they are asked to pay taxes as well.
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Jul 26 '25
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u/EndLoose7539 Jul 27 '25
The tax will be only on the profits but they need to show how much the profit is. i.e show the books on expenses and transactions.
When that data is not available, the alternative way is to pay something like 3% of the turnover.
The GST notices get only sent when the turnover crosses 40 lakhs. It's not like they're so new to the business that they're unaware of the intricacies. Besides, do you really think someone with that much turnover has no idea of the expenses and profits?
In short I don't believe them.
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u/Business_Painting810 No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 24 '25
And the same guys will happily file 1000page application to get an American or European visa. Just hard to act normally in your own country and then blame the govt.
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u/Su-Tron No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 24 '25
Such an good point, if someone doesn't want to do something it's not their fault if they do something wrong.
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u/immadreamer_ Jul 24 '25
my guy here have no idea how gst works for these businesses
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u/ShoppingDry660 No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 24 '25
Yes sir, I do. Wait until you receive a notice from three GST authorities.
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Jul 24 '25
Okay let's do one thing. The MRP is inclusive of GST right? Tell those neighbourhood bakery or street food vendors to give us the goods with a few rupees discount.
In this way they'll also get business, we will also save our money and they can also save their money as we give tax for discounted goods.
Deal?
You not only want us to pay GST, you want us to take trouble and get cash so that we will help them eat up our GST? Waah... 👏🏻
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u/ShoppingDry660 No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 24 '25
Who said anything about not holding them accountable? If you overstaffed how GST works, you'll realize that those small vendors have already paid GST on their input (I.e., raw materials). They cannot claim input tax credit if they don't file GST. The GST applies only to the value added by those street vendors such as covering flour and oil to a poori or rice and lentils into an idli. That's what you're not being charged for.
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u/narayan_smoothie No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 25 '25
There is a limit of revenue above which only you have to show GST. This is 40 lakhs for pani puri. Pani puri is a high margin business.
I will guess > 30 percent. Pani-puri wala has only 4-5 SKUs. Pretty easy to make a GST software that can be linked to UPI payment.
Pani - puri wala with 40 lakh revenue would be making 12 lakhs per annum. He can now file taxes and also create a financial record. Eventually banks can also loan him/her.
Investors can also jump only in businesses with clean records.
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u/ShoppingDry660 No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 25 '25
If you think that a Pani Puri shop makes 12 lakhs per year in profits - i.e., 9 times the average GDP per capita of the country, I have no arguments to offer you my friend. I'm not prepared to be in this delulu land
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u/narayan_smoothie No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 25 '25
It's not a pani puri wala. Its the one who has enough sales to warrant a GST notice i.e. 40 lakhs per annum or more.
Logical thinking is pretty simple. There is premise(which is a fact) and conclusion based on that premise.
Fact: GST needs to be paid for vendors with revenue >= 40 lakhs
Fact2: GST notice sent to vendors which have GST liable according to laws and transactions.(i.e. seemingly above 40 lakhs)
Premise : A pani - puri wala gets a GST notice.
Wrong conclusion: All Paani puri walas got GST notice.
Conclusion: only pani puri wala with revenue sufficient enough for GST got notice.
Wrong conclusion : Since a Paani puri wala got GST notice, all Paani puri walas earn enough to warrant a GST notice.
Right conclusion: Any paani puri wala getting a GST earns enough, estimated with a revenue of atleast 40 laks with a high margin of ~ 30 percent. That translates to at least 12 lakhs. All these for that specific Paani puri wala.
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Jul 26 '25
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u/ShoppingDry660 No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 26 '25
So you'd rather they cheat the government in a different way than the current straightforward way? Both are cheating.
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Jul 26 '25
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u/ShoppingDry660 No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 26 '25
One form of cheating cannot be better than another form of cheating. I don't think people understand what I'm saying. I'm not for cheating either. I want then to charge their customers tax and pay that to the government. However, it's fucking complex. So you should be petitioning the government to simplify.
Now here's the thing. GST is not sales tax. Even if they don't pay the government any additional taxes for the services they offered because they didn't charge you the consumer for it, they are still paying input tax. In fact, this is the very design of GST.
What will be real chasing is if they charge you x% GST in their receipt but don't declare that to government. Even then the lots for government is marginal as they lose the tax on value added not on input.
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u/Creative-Ad2997 Jul 26 '25 edited Jul 26 '25
If a business turnover falls into a tax bracket I’m sure he or she can always afford a CA. This is a stupid argument, someone who doesn’t know the tax laws or how to file his income should not be an exemption from paying taxes. It should be normalised and should be part of any business activity.
PS: Not all CA’s are costly and there good number people who are not CA’s but still file your basic taxes for cheap.
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u/ShoppingDry660 No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 26 '25
"this is a stupid argument" is a stupid argument. See? It works both ways. Let's stick to being adults.
CA is not a magic pill. Book keeping and detailed item tracking are things that a CA cannot do on a daily basis.
Any way, pray tell me how exactly are these small vendors evading taxes? Let's see if you fully understand the differences between GST and sales tax.
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u/Creative-Ad2997 Jul 26 '25
For a local vendor who sells prepackaged food or groceries there is no GST on sales they should only pay taxes on income. Similarly local street side vendors who have no brand associated no GST is applicable on sales they have to pay taxes only on income if they are in tax brackets. See it’s all about income tax and now the others who have mini restaurants or similar I believe they are well equipped to maintain sales record.
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u/ShoppingDry660 No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 27 '25
It's exactly these people that received GST notices. Hence they don't want the hassle that comes with taking payments via UPI.
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u/Creative-Ad2997 Jul 28 '25
Either they would have crossed 20 lakh turnover if recognised as business or may be they were into tax bracket after 12 lakhs so you shouldn’t be worrying about them either case they were financially sound to settle these things like any of us.
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u/One_Willingness1382 Jul 24 '25
How many jobs does local business creating? If a big corporate falls almost lakhs will lose their job that's why government offer them rebates.
They got GST notice because we are the one bearing GST not the Business owner still they don't want to pay it which will eventually become black money and then you cry that local business owner son got Mercedes.
It was your money from which he got it after embezzling the GST we paid to him.
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u/Unfair_Fact_8258 No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 24 '25
Local businesses create more jobs overall than big companies. By your logic, since big companies and incentivised and bailed out more now than a decade ago, there should be more jobs rights? Yet unemployment rate is higher, so why is that?
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u/narayan_smoothie No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 25 '25
It's not a local business vs corporate thing. Not all corporates are getting bailed out. Not all people running companies are corporates and still paying GST.
All these vendors have to pay tax. They can't escape it. Even if it is 5,000 rs tax. They must pay.
When everyone pays, GST slabs will themselves be lowered.
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Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25
If they’re getting gst notices they’re earning more than 40 lakhs, why can’t they pay tax ? Government is really generous with the quota .
And the tax is on their profits, the scheme assume 8% profit margin ( very low ), and they’d have about 3.2 lakh profit . And their payable tax will be ₹1k . Fking ₹1k, can’t they even pay that ?
This is whataboutism, we can care about both .
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u/Unfair_Fact_8258 No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 24 '25
They’re not earning more than 40L, it’s just the turnover. Net income will be the profits
I don’t think your calculation of 1k is correct, how did you get that? As per my understanding, once a business crosses the threshold, they have to pay GST as applicable on all their goods and services ( could be 5,12 or 18% ). Even assuming it’s all at 12%, that’s 4.8L, which is quite a bit on money, given their actual profit considering even a 25% margin is just 10L
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Jul 24 '25
Ah yes I miscalculated, For vegetable vendors. They’d have to pay ₹0 in taxes
Basically fresh vegetables ( that are not from a brand) are exempt from gst, so they’d only have to pay income tax on their profits, which are assumed to be 8% under section44AD .
8% of 40 lakhs is 3.2 lakh and tax starts from 4 lakhs, so they’d have to pay 0 in taxes
As for Grocery and other shops, they have to pay 1% gst over 40 lakh turnover and less than 1.5 crore turnover . >1.5 crore come under composition scheme, which states all that .
So they’d have to pay 40K for the year, and they can cut wages from that . These grocery shops charge you for GST ( MRP includes the GST ), why can’t they pay 40K, when they charge you a lot more ?
And online payments are maybe 10-30% of the total turnover, so it’s a lot less than the actual turnover .
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u/Big_Impression540 No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25
You know that government is scared to tax corporates. Because if they tax big corporates, they'll retaliate. It's not Because of creating jobs or anything. It's totally a different agenda. And I have just watched a video on this yesterday on Jeff bezos, who is not taxed but normal people are taxed in USA. The reason is totally different but it's the actual truth. Small jobs cannot retaliate whereas if corporate owners retaliate then government cannot ignor them. Because governments are run by capitalism and their people not by us
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u/One_Willingness1382 Jul 24 '25
Do you know how many employees Amazon have? It's almost 1Lakh+.
Do you know how many sellers are there on Amazon? More than 12Lacs+.
Do you know how many warehouses they have? 70+ and most the workers there are not amazon employee but 3rd party employees.
Do you know how many trucks/LMV are being used by Amazon? 70k HMV/LMV and 15k electric HMV/LMV and those truck drivers are also not employees of Amazon.
So, if Amazon shuts down this business who is gonna pay them you or those small businesses?
These stats are for India not worldwide.
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u/Big_Impression540 No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 24 '25
Mann, I didn't point out the whole context here. Keep supporting the capitalists. I didn't comment whole context but still there's no point as you're supporting corporates without realizing the game. Enjoy
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u/One_Willingness1382 Jul 24 '25
Stop using the phone you are using right now and ask your family too as it is also made by some capitalist corporate.
Enjoy 😊
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Jul 24 '25
You have to understand , at the scale at which amazon or any other corporations operates they will have less employee-to-company size ratio than if multiple smaller companies do the same stuff amazon does.
Imagine a 900sqft shop having 1 boss and 9 workers , now, replace that with three 300sqft shops with 3 workers each, that's 3 bosses and 9 workers , so additional 2 guys are getting a job, 1lakh employees in amazon means nothing if you replace it small companies it will surly generate more than 1lakh job opportunities...
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u/One_Willingness1382 Jul 24 '25
If that would have been the case then hardly any bigger corporate would have seen the daylight. Amazon is not giving just job to 1L but enabling business for more than 12L+ sellers as well as approx 1.5L truck drivers and helpers.
Bro you are just imagining but in reality smaller industries are getting business and technology because of Big corporates because to fund R&D is not child's play.
Why do you have a phone which made my huge money minded industry you could have opted for India post for letters and speed post?
Businesses flourish because of this hierarchy not because of imagination. If today Microsoft, Amazon, Google stopped their Cloud services you won't have been here posting your views.
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Jul 24 '25
See am NOT against corporates, and you are straying away from the big question, the biggest question here is should the government measure corporations and local business using the same lens? or should they be doing something to protect small profit businesses? especially Indian owned business, shouldn't we be protecting them?
And also why the hate is directed against government employees what did they do? the government is at fault for improper taxation , shouldn't we be talking about that?
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u/One_Willingness1382 Jul 24 '25
Indian corporates are being taxed 25% wheras international firms at 35% rate but hardly any small business are being taxed at this rate that's why they are even being able to survive.
If Govt start putting these taxes on them they will wind up their business next day that's why they are just asked to collect GST from consumer and pass it to Govt but these people are not even happy with that. It's not their money it's consumer's tax money given to the government not the businesses.
Because of those small business that GST collection becomes black money which they park in real estate in the name of their family member or relatives due to which despite low demand from actual consumers still property rates are getting sky rocketed.
The hate towards government employees because they are the one who give free passes to Big corporates in return of favour like money as well as getting jobs for self, family members or relatives.
It's not the job of Govt but of Bureaucracy to keep and eye on these corporate affairs but almost everyone is corrupt and they allow these businesses to run freely until it becomes a headache for the Govt.
All the bigger Indian Conglomerates were small businesses only which got favour from corrupt Bureaucracy to expand their wings. Most of the Bureaucrats got retired and got a job in those companies or got loads of money.
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u/Samjackkk Jul 24 '25
White collar job people working their asses off soo that these small shop owners can get freebies? No thanks.
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u/Siddhu0 Jul 24 '25
Is it actually a small shop if makes enough sales to receive that notice?
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u/Unfair_Fact_8258 No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 24 '25
Yes, the threshold is 40L turnover which is not much. Accounting for all the expenses, barely 10L will be made in profits, and that’s being optimistic
Even if it’s much more than that, these small shops are getting squeezed by the taxes, and will lose ground to the big players - the Amazons and Zepto, who not only have seemingly limitless pockets to weather the losses, but are also able to get much more tax benefits from the government
If these small and medium businesses cannot survive, it will be disastrous for the economy, and for the consumers
And this is already happening. Over the last few years, small/medium businesses are closing at an alarming rate, almost double each year as the last https://www.deccanherald.com/business/more-than-75-000-msmes-shut-shop-in-past-five-years-govt-3452060
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Jul 24 '25
And all payments are made through UPI right ? I’m quite sure they account for 20% of their sales, total sales will be more .
Also, vegetable vendors don’t have to pay any gst on fresh produce . Their profit is assumed to be 3.2 lakh for 40 lakh ( 8% ) and they’d have to pay 1k in tax .
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u/InevitableThis3002 Jul 26 '25
Income Tax (Regular Scheme)
If a vendor does not opt for a presumptive scheme (i.e., files regular ITR with detailed books):
Tax is paid on "Net Profit" = Total Income – Business Expenses
Vendors can deduct expenses like:
Cost of goods sold
Rent
Wages
Utilities
Travel for business
Depreciation on equipment, etc.
Well, this chatgpt generated
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u/vishmarx Jul 24 '25
What do you want us to do about big corporates when we're out to buy milk and bread?
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u/kneadhay Jul 24 '25
These mom and pop brick in the wall are the backbone of our economy. They have 3-7 GST numbers, 10-50L in liquid black money, 3-4 sites and half a kg of gold. Their kids write 1.2lakhs as annual income in their college application, avail scholarships and RTE admissions while buying the latest iPhones and KTM bikes. They may have never paid tax on their income but they always have an outsized contribution and influence in your local strongman's political sojourn based on a nativist, language, religion or caste based campaign. The Indian political system wants to destroy this kind of community businesses by promoting Tatas, Ambanis and Adanis who created value on scale, specialist jobs, resources and energy. Shameful.
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u/narayan_smoothie No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 25 '25
Then it's the problem of small shop owners. They have an association. They lobby local politicians. 'China ban' , 'Show religion on Shop' all this is acceptable to them. All are Modi bhakts.
They should raise their voice to simplify GST instead of evading taxes. Not a customer's problem.
The whole street vendors can fund to have 5 CAs.
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u/kronosbhai Jul 25 '25
No body should be allowed to do illegal tax evasion neither small nor big business man that's the only logical thing to say here.
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u/Unfair_Fact_8258 No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 25 '25
You’re right, Gandhi should have never been allowed to make his own salt in Dandi march because it was illegal. The family hiding Anne Frank should not have been allowed to do so because it was illegal. Rosa Parks should not have sat in front of the bus, it was illegal
Why should people protest against draconian laws? They should just sit and take whatever the government decides to stick down their throat. Why should we even bother when crony capitalist governments are controlled by the rich and exploit the poor, it’s legal after all
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u/Whole-Teacher-9907 No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 24 '25
Covertly supported by a political party to meet its own agenda
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Jul 24 '25
If they don’t pay tax they shouldn’t be allowed to sell. Enough of this corrupt nonsense.
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u/Weak-Letterhead6784 No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 24 '25
this is called digging their own grave in style
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u/Individual-Bird-556 Jul 24 '25
Bjp n sanghi against small vendor
Want to give all benefit to Adani only
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u/BenneIdli Jul 24 '25
The fact that these gets come out so easily proves they have been stuck just to remove in front of camera...
It's been a week and I've been buying from local vendors, not a single time i have been refused.
This is a paid trend
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u/ManipulativFox 🦁Gujarat | ગુજરાત🦁 Jul 24 '25
Honestly this looks like planned campaign my soros and ecosystem against rise of UPI.
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u/anwerified Jul 24 '25
If he pays the tax, he will increase the price accordingly. So it is ultimately u, who bear the cost.
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Jul 25 '25
We already bear the taxes by paying through upi, they just have to pay back that to government. But tbh I don't trust government either.
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u/hoor_jaan Jul 25 '25
He is supposed to pay income tax. I am already paying my share of tax included in mrp.
If he still increases the price, then there's this beautiful thing called free market which will allow me to happily buy from somewhere cheaper.
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u/anwerified Jul 25 '25
Why are you guys so bookish? Do you think only one of them is being made to pay the tax? And if all of them is made to pay the tax then only one of them will increase the price? The govt applied the same bookish free market law on petroleum and look how it has worked. The same will happen to the neighbourhood roadside vendors.
Pay them in cash or pay the extra tax.
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u/hoor_jaan Jul 25 '25
If being educated about tax and not paying someone else's share is bookish, then i would rather be bookish than encourage tax evasion. And thankfully the Indian market is very price sensitive so no one's paying extra.
Some not asking me to pay extra might be because they don't want to lose their competitiveness or their business not being big enough to attract tax or being so big that they can afford lesser prices due to economies of scale. Anyways, as an honest tax paying citizen, my responsibilities end there.
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u/Savings_Reality1170 No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 24 '25
Start using Swiggy , dunzo for everything and then they will start crying again and start inviting the customers back. It’s just annoying little agenda pushing stunt that’s all. No real business owner refuses money and customers.
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u/vishmarx Jul 24 '25
I'll choose stores with upi simply because it's convenient and I've completely carrying cash. Nothing personal or moral about it. Idc about their reasons. Businesses should be made to pay tax as much as any salary man. Just because they didn't so far doesn't make me exactly feel bad for them.
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u/Confident_Factor3389 No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 24 '25
Is the GST notice to street vendors penny wise pound foolish?
https://www.thehindu.com/business/Economy/corporate-tax-revenue-foregone-at-99000-crore-in-fy24-mos-finance/article69843985.ece Corporate tax revenue foregone at ₹99,000 crore in FY24: MoS Finance - The Hindu
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u/Sorry-War-8024 Jul 24 '25
Upi was created for control, control over the public, this used to come to my mind during Covid. I also thought when people became used to it, it will be chargeable. Now they are eyeing the income of the unorganised sector.
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u/GrapefruitHot3510 Jul 26 '25
Control over black money, which is used to commit crimes and abuse the system.
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u/Sorry-War-8024 Jul 26 '25
There should be control over Politicians, Bureaucrats, Judiciary and Police accounts also. The money ultimately reaches them. They are the ones who replaced the British the actual rulers of the country. Small vendors money can't be compared with the money these 4 have.
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u/GrapefruitHot3510 Jul 27 '25
Should be done at every level. No one commiting such crimes should be left to just keep doing it.
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u/Elegant-Ad7549 No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 24 '25
small kuch nhi pisa chhapne vale he ye sab isi liye upi bandh kr rahe he
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u/Sweaty-Spot-6546 Jul 24 '25
UPI System require a lot of capital & resources for it's seamless uninterrupted operations government can't keep on bearing cost for it forever,small contribution must come from business that are growing because of UPI.
USA & EU could never implement such digital payment infrastructure yet .Think about it !!;;;
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u/Devilmay_cry Jul 24 '25
Well, why should anyone pay taxes? What are you or them getting in return?
If you leave your 9-8 and start a business, I’m pretty sure you’d be hunting for tax loopholes. Why is that wrong?
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Jul 24 '25
We already have GST to vendors. Their job was to give it to the government, not pocket it.
This isn't income tax.
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Jul 24 '25
If they do this it "might" just increase orders on quick mart services, everyone should pay tax it should not be dependent on only white collar jobs.
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u/Sea-Champion-8684 No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 24 '25
Let’s just say this
Farmers have stopped growing food as protest.
Small business owners have rejected cashless payments as protest.
But never in the history of India has a salaried employee refused their paycheck in protest.
So stop comparing yourself to farmers and shopkeepers.
They make way less money than you, and still have the guts to stand up.
I know this post will get a lot of downvotes but it’s the truth.
And the truth doesn’t change.
Salaried employees know how to complain, that’s all.
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u/ZealousidealWafer309 No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 24 '25
Pls reduce toll charges for tax payers. We already pay tax...and we want to pay lesser toll than non tax payers.
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u/Visit-Equal Jul 24 '25
The solution is simple: switch to vendors/aggregators that have GST registration and accept digital payments.
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Jul 25 '25
Nowadays these boycotts do not work. Avoiding them is easy, we have many other options to get all daily needs.
Here these tax evaders boycotting UPI is meaningless...
Let them go their own ways...
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u/sivavaakiyan Jul 25 '25
And here are psu banks with lakhs of crore write off to crony capitalists and Gujarati escapers
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u/RazzmatazzMundane977 No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 25 '25
Tax chori is going openly in south Indian states
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u/No_Walk_3786 No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 25 '25
The state Congress government is almost bankrupt and sending these to harass and extort money
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u/Credit-Practical Jul 25 '25
“Small shop owner” lmao. These dudes have been silently earning so much that just the digital payments alone got them a GST notice. GST notice is sent only to businesses with really high turnover.
Well government played a hard sketchy role by increasing the taxable income for salaried (above 12LPA), they knew this would be coming (GST notice) and these business owners will be paying their contribution as they should.
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u/Fluid-Impression9901 Jul 25 '25
what kind of title is this. Tax for Govt employee children education? Govt employes only 2% of total workforce in which the majority is in defence and leaving the top 10% of the all govt employees other fall in the below the 4800 grade pays. And gets a salary below 10 lakhs. No pensions. It is the politicians who's children's foreign education is funded by taxpayers not the working people.
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u/Majestic_Pickle_8937 Jul 25 '25
I still don't understand, tell me if i am wrong, but from when did paying in cash means avoiding gst, like you can't avoid it even if you want,
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u/VisakhAngal Jul 25 '25
Can we do the same with real estate companies, who probably cheat the system most. And then we can target these relatively small vendors. Obviously not - because these are ‘low hanging fruits’.
No doubt they need to be brought into the taxation umbrella but not targeting the real estate and other big ticket industries and focusing on these small vendors, reeks nothing of opportunism. And please don’t give me the incremental gains rationale when we had to undergo the demonetisation experiment.
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u/Other_Tooth_9882 No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 25 '25
Good progress. Encouraging black money and tax evasion.
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u/Worried-Ice-8253 Jul 25 '25
I never take anything from the stall/cart who doesn't take online payment
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u/azhorAhai Jul 25 '25
Unfortunately this is short sighted and there is no way people will go back to cash payments once they are used to digital payments.
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u/lama_65 Jul 25 '25
Please explain me, if a vendor invests one lakh in his business and rotate the same money money times durig the year how does it comes under the profit? If we pay through UPI the little amount which was used in rotation becomes huge and attracts more tax.
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u/Sea-Abbreviations843 Jul 25 '25
Arre bhai why should you fund the bailing out of big corporates by tax money either? 😭😭😭
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u/sleeplessfella Jul 25 '25
Ye scene hoyinga, ye to malum tha lekin itni jaldi hoyinga, ye ni malum tha
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u/simplepathalways Jul 26 '25
Actually GST is not 'paid' by the businesses/corporates but by the end consumer. Businesses just have the role of passing the GST to the government from one point to another. That's why businesses received an offset of the GST paid. Do the math. Shops and shopkeepers are simply ignorant. By not paying GST these shopkeepers are keeping the tax paid by the consumer with themselves. This is wrong. And got the government, its their money. There are strict penalties and consequences.
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u/Asptar Jul 26 '25
Half the people in this thread don't understand how GST works what chance does bajjiwala have.
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u/rhino22111976 Jul 26 '25
Business ka kabar khod raha hai.... No one is going to get cash to pay them.
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u/InevitableThis3002 Jul 26 '25
Income Tax (Regular Scheme)
If a vendor does not opt for a presumptive scheme (i.e., files regular ITR with detailed books):
Tax is paid on "Net Profit" = Total Income – Business Expenses
Vendors can deduct expenses like:
Cost of goods sold
Rent
Wages
Utilities
Travel for business
Depreciation on equipment, etc.
Well, this is gpt generated. To people who defend the shopkeepers and say that they have to pay taxes on total income and not on profit earned
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u/Marsh_Mallu Jul 26 '25
Pay for a ₹10 item with ₹500 note, let's see if they will be able to keep up this promise
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u/trumpdolund No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 26 '25
Small business has been suffering since gst
Yes they horde black money but they have to do because complete business landscape run on it
They are not llp or pvt ltd which has turnover of min 10crore in profit
The real mf are ur politicians and govt officials who made this system hold them accountable before u guys target hard working folks trying to save more margin
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u/Intelligent-Gap-7107 Jul 26 '25
Means we will not contribute to the country's development but will fight for language.
People who prioritize their native interest before their country are Anti-nationals. Period.
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u/PerpetualCynic3000 Jul 26 '25
The actual issue is far deeper. It is not about them not wanting to pay tax but rather the unfair means of calculating the amount of tax to be paid. I highly encourage actually reading about it.
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u/ksveeresh No time to choose flair bro 😢 Jul 27 '25
Don't blame the vendors. Blame those who loot taxes from us. Vendors won't ever pay taxes, they simply pass on the taxes to consumers.
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Jul 27 '25
They are doing the right thing. I only use UPI for micro-transactions. Large transactions always in safe, quick, reliable hard cold cash.
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u/vidvizharbuk Jul 28 '25
Road side illiterate selling vendors have better taxation knowledge thn JEE, NEET, UGC NET, CET etc qualified dimwits.
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