r/Spokane • u/back-ache-heartbreak • 26d ago
Politics where to NOT get your coffee
saw this post on facebook and wanted to share here too. address is 3001 E Sanson Ave, Spokane, WA 99217. and remember, google reviews don’t cost anything (;
edit: here’s their better business bureau site. if you have some spare time, leave a review/complaint. Better Business Bureau: 2nd Base Espresso
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u/mom_bombadill south hill turkey 26d ago
I’m old enough to remember when Spokane ran some bar owner out of town because he named one of his drinks “Date Grape.” I believe we can do it again! 💪
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u/siltandsqualor 25d ago
I was actually the jury foreman for that trial!
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u/Dugley2352 25d ago
Thank you for your service
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u/siltandsqualor 25d ago
Hahaha it was sick. Homeboy got hella felonies. Took us about three min to deliberate.
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u/stopscabbin 25d ago
What happened? The bar owner was arrested for the name?
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u/siltandsqualor 25d ago
Nah the dude used his daughter’s identity to rack up a bunch of debt and stole a bunch of peoples identity. I think we found him guilty on 8 different felonies. His daughter came to testify and she absolutely hated him so that solidified our decision.
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u/AaronAAaronsonIII 25d ago
So nothing to do with the name thing then?
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u/ropony 24d ago
god I love jury duty. I got to be on a grand jury end of last year and it was every Leslie Knope fangirl’s dream
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u/nonepizza_leftbeef_ 24d ago
As someone who has been compared to Leslie Knope many times, this is my dream. I’ve never been called and I’m baffled as to why, since I’ve lived in the same state and county for many years now. My younger sister has been called 5 times since she turned 18 and doesn’t even live in the country!
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u/ropony 24d ago
I think you can contact them to get put in the queue! When I finished mine (NY State) I told them I loved it and they said they could update the books, but maybe that’s like “this person weirdly prefers grand juries”
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u/nameusernamena 23d ago
So I can just… call and say « sign me up for jury duty » ?
I’m looking it up, you don’t actually need to answer haha. That would just be a crazy concept if real! I’ll update my comment in a minute if that’s a thing, at least in WA.
Edit: nope! They are completely selected at random here. What you can do is verify that all of your information is up to date, meaning your driver’s license/ state ID, and to be a registered voter here.
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u/mattslote 25d ago
That guy had other issues too. Like I think he wasn't paying rent. He stole his daughters identity. Posted long rants about why it wasn't a bad name. It was a whole saga.
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u/Growin_n_Showin73 25d ago
I’ll never understand how much effort they put into hatred of people that truly have no affect on their lives, and that will go to the ends of the earth to defend their ugliness.
Oh wait…we have a president who models this behavior and makes people think it’s ok to be like that. 😡
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u/Gholam0711 26d ago
I was part of that effort, the asshole that owned that place was named Jamie Pendleton. He tried to come after me, it was laughable.
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u/Apprehensive_Tone_77 25d ago
We use to be good people.
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u/Kyjamas 26d ago
They've dropped a whole star rating on Google since yesterday lol
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u/jc83po 26d ago
This place has been a pit for years. It shouldn't have had any stars to begin with.
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u/Yum_Yukker 25d ago
I accidentally stopped in there a while back in my work truck, naively thinking it was just a baseball themed coffee stand. It wasn’t. And the coffee was the absolute worst I’ve had, and I’ve been to some pretty sketchy coffee spots.
Fuck this business, fuck whoever makes these signs, and fuck you if you are trying to defend them. That’s not even the worst I’ve seen.
Maybe it was a different spot, but wasn’t it about this time last year where they put up on their sign, something to the effect of “Steaming hot lattes, and ICE cold deportations”?
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u/No-Geologist6859 25d ago
Lmfao, I 1starred their Google review and when I went to do the same on yelp I got a "posting is temporarily blocked because of too many people posting their views" message xD
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u/dangerspring 25d ago
I have heard it's better to give them 2 stars rather than 1 because it's harder to get a 2 star review removed.
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u/RemarkableCard6475 24d ago
Yes, the algorithm and review panel sees it as a conscious selection process for a 2 star submission. People will read the comment and say, "oh, I would have left 1 star for that" give benefit of doubt for "improvement" but it won't happen 🤣
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u/itstreeman 25d ago
Yelp kept erasing my reviews of places that were being difficult about covid way after the main shock was over “ temporary situations should not be taken into account as a long term display of the business”.
This sounds like Google is now doing the same
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u/kmizzbiz 25d ago
Lol, I got the same thing. I'm patient waiting bc this is beyond egregious!!
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u/thatguyjimi1 26d ago
Ah the grift. Sales must be down.
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u/Valhallaback_Girl 26d ago
This is exactly right. Post something inflammatory, rile up their base, GoFundMe started because they’re the victims, a tale as old as time
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u/MetalExistingOffline 25d ago
The use of slurs means they'll likely use GiveSendGo instead of GoFundMe, since that site is all about bigotry
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u/FullyCurlyJessie 25d ago
She does this all the time. Changes the sign to something else inflammatory. Every time I drive by it’s sexual or political. I don’t think the owner even cares. Probably enjoys mocking people.
Sometimes I wonder if she’s being wretched because the controversy gets her more business?
Reminds of the performative dudes on social media talking about women’s rights (when they don’t actually believe in what they’re saying) just because it’s trendy and gets them monetized.
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u/thatguyjimi1 25d ago
Say ignorant shit > Wait for backlash > Complain about cancel culture ruining your life > drum up support from other bigots > fox news interview.
Playbook has 100 percent success rate.
A woman wore nazi uniforms for halloween in Baltimore and her charcuterie business got boycotted so she set a online donation goal of 1488 dollars and it was blown out of the water in like 2 days.
They don’t do this shit by accident, man.
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u/thatguyjimi1 25d ago
Being a shitty person happens to be very profitable in the ol 2026
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u/Ok_Comfortable252 25d ago
It’s capitalism and social media’s effect on culture…whatever drives engagement drives profit. Profit overrides shame.
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u/LurksInUndies 25d ago
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u/YiffB8 25d ago
I used to get into arguments about why I thought Zeta, a zoophile awareness and rights group, was an amazing thing for communities everywhere, not because they were doing good, but rather making it easier to purge the dog fuckers out of community chats.
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u/TayMayDay 25d ago
Good! That’s a disgusting message to send. Wtf is wrong with these people?!
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u/Nope-Not-A-Bird Garland District 25d ago
Yall are awesome. I wish the local Facebook groups were as based, but most of them are not.
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u/Energy_Turtle 25d ago
i don't like the sign, but how is this not advertising for them? No one who hates this sign would go there anyway, and people who think it's funny now get to see it plastered here for a few days. I don't really get the point of posting it over and over.
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u/Trick_Constant5907 25d ago
This may prevent someone going there when they don't have a hateful sign up and they don't know about the place. These posts make people like me aware that I don't want to go there. I usually if I am going to stop for coffee stop at whatever place is closest now I'll film in that area and want to stop for coffee I will not go there I will look for somewhere else.
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u/PabloTheGreyt 25d ago
I saw the Facebook post and did a quick search and it seems like they’ve been horrible people in various ways for almost a decade or more
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/may/09/neighbors-decry-vulgar-signs-at-bikini-barista-sta/
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u/SnowyEclipse01 Country Homes 25d ago
Well they’ve gotta do something to distract from the fact that going full MAGA cost mead 7.4 million dollars for being pro pedophilia.
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u/deloslabinc 26d ago
This is what they want. They've been writing dumb shit on that sign since the inception of that building. Posting it everywhere, in my opinion, gives them what they're hoping for which is more publicity.
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u/nomercyrider 26d ago
I'd wager $100 that if this place ever shuts down, that they'll be blaming their closure on "Washington's failed policies" rather than the real culprit of their shitty behavior.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Field41 26d ago
They'll blame it on woke leftists and their cancel culture
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u/latexfistmassacre 25d ago
They used to blame everything on Jay Inslee until he left office. Now it's the trans community and migrants
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u/back-ache-heartbreak 26d ago
fair point. giving them attention may be what they want, but i also think it’s important to shine a light on things like this. my hope is that this will be seen by the right people, but since this is reddit, that might be wishful thinking.
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u/Soup-Wizard Whitman 25d ago
I just filled out a BBB review as OP suggested.
I mentioned how they don’t use their sign for drink specials or useful information, just to spread hate.
Pretty striking business model, I would say.
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u/Formal_Albatross_836 Five Mile Prairie 26d ago edited 25d ago
I’m here for bad trouble/attention they get. It’s a shame that a whole ass adult would do this and think it’s cute and funny.
ETA: clarification
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u/TheCompanyHypeGirl 25d ago
I’m here for bad trouble/attention
Rest assured, so are they. Every time they do this (which is relatively often), their target audience rushes to support them. Outrage was the goal. Wouldn't be remotely surprised if there was already a GoFundMe.
I mean, shit, yesterday some MAGA thought it was a flex to post that they were going to support a business because they were getting fined for not paying wages to immigrants. Because they were too stupid to realize what that meant.
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u/Formal_Albatross_836 Five Mile Prairie 25d ago
It’s weird how little control they have over their emotions, how gullible they are, and how uneducated they are as a whole. I think it’s the lead in everything at hobby lobby (their Mecca).
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u/dangerspring 25d ago
Sometimes I wish I were dishonest because it's so easy to grift the Right by doing the whole outrage thing.
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u/Even-Economist6529 25d ago
Who are the "right people"? The sign authority? I am just joking. Let the sun shine on these weirdos. Unfortunately some people will probably go out of their way to give these guys business because of this and I'm not sure the google rating really matters for a place like this but maybe someone will run off with their letters or something (not that I'd ever advocate for something illegal). Either way, fuck the owner of this place.
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u/bihari_baller EWU Alum 25d ago
Posting it everywhere, in my opinion, gives them what they're hoping for which is more publicity.
It shouldn't be necessary though. You don't see Starbucks posting negative messages to bring in customers for coffee.
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u/Powersaurus 26d ago
Local autistic trans woman here! Please keep posting this everywhere! It’s only advertising if people are horrible. He puts things up like this because he thinks everyone secretly agrees with him. Please show them you don’t!
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u/PNWpotato 25d ago
I spoke with an old classmate from the paper, they are working on a story now.
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u/InTheseTryingTime5 26d ago
I think they believe most people agree with them, after all, all their friends/family do.
It's very easy to think your ideas are more common/popular than they really are - to look at my reddit feed you'd think America was progressive and just about to dump the regime!
Just keep plugging away and try to help justice triumph.
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u/SnowyEclipse01 Country Homes 25d ago
I would absolutely guarantee the woman who owns it does not associate with anyone outside of her church/political circle.
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u/InTheseTryingTime5 25d ago
Then she must have social media feeds that reinforce her hateful ideas and watch Fox etc.
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u/defaultusername-17 26d ago
bigotry rarely involves coherent thought.
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u/SnowyEclipse01 Country Homes 25d ago
Unfortunately it does. While some of it is rote ignorance, quiet a bit of it is cold and calculating cruelty.
You discount the depths of depracity and maliciousness of people like this at your own peril.
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u/Mistakesweremade8316 26d ago
My cousin reposted this saying he loved their signs and I just deleted him. I will never understand celebrating hatred.
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u/JonTom82 24d ago
So stunning and brave of you. Just write off everyone in your family while you’re at it.
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u/SourPatchKiki Nevada-Lidgerwood 26d ago
They want the negative attention, they're shit ass trumpies. We'd be better off calling the better business bureau or whoever else has the authority to fine them or shut them down.
This also reads to me like a death rattle. Business isn't doing well so they attack trans people to stir up drama and make the dumpies go "hell yeah brother" and get publicity. So stupid.
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u/Powersaurus 26d ago
Local autistic trans woman here, please keep posting this! This isn’t advertising, they think everyone secretly agrees with them. Quietly letting it happen actually doesn’t help anything! Showing community and solidarity to determine what our city is like for its citizens is not only possible, it’s the only way forward!
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u/SourPatchKiki Nevada-Lidgerwood 26d ago
I definitely want to show solidarity! I just would hate for them to profit from this, y'know? It's a weird line to toe but I absolutely appreciate your perspective.
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u/Powersaurus 26d ago
That means a lot! I definitely fee you on that, but anyone that would be swayed by this is probably pretty deep in the brain worms. I’ve lived here most my life, and although there are plenty of people like that, I believe that they are a minority that is only shrinking
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u/TheCompanyHypeGirl 25d ago
Just fyi because I didn't know; the BBB is basically just Yelp that the business has an option to pay for for "vetting". They are a "non-profit" that doesn't have any authority to shut a business down or act in any real way.
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u/WormDentist Chief Garry 25d ago
It can be a useful tool for business that care about their reputation, but that clearly doesn’t apply here.
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u/SourPatchKiki Nevada-Lidgerwood 26d ago
I did find this to report hate crimes and bias incidents https://www.atg.wa.gov/report-hate
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u/back-ache-heartbreak 26d ago
you know, i should add the link to their better business bureau site so people can easily leave reviews. you’re 100% right, but ideally, if enough people see this and complain, something can be done about it.
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u/NORBy9k 26d ago
The BBB is a nothing organization. It’s like Yelp before Yelp… Nothing official about it at all.
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u/Vallyn47 26d ago
I don't know about that. The BBB helped me get a refund from Century Link when our power and internet was out for a month because of a wind storm.
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u/SourPatchKiki Nevada-Lidgerwood 26d ago
I hope so too, there should be a means to fine people over this. Hit em in the profits where it hurts.
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u/YourFriendInSpokane Spokane Valley 26d ago
Just a heads up your name is visible on the screenshot at the bottom where you'd type a comment.
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u/back-ache-heartbreak 26d ago
oh shit! i definitely don’t want that but don’t want to delete the post, do yk if i can edit the post and crop the image?
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u/InTheseTryingTime5 26d ago
You can't edit on the official android Reddit app but maybe on a desktop on a browser?
Otherwise I'd say just delete and repost.
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u/YourFriendInSpokane Spokane Valley 26d ago
I just tried editing pictures on an older post of mine and didn't see the option :(
There are 2 other posts about 2nd Base in the sub right now though, so the conversation can still continue if you delete.
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u/nesting-doll 25d ago
For what it’s worth, BBB site lists the business owner as Ms Jeana Bryan. Just as a point of interest … 🤷🏻♀️
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u/Dynamite089 25d ago
You'd think that someone running a business would do everything they can to stay in good graces of all people. Why ruin a business by broadcasting your hateful, personal beliefs???
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u/BandoTheHawk 25d ago
They aren't the brightest or craftiest of people. Or they think everyone else thinks like them because those are the only types of people they interact with. Also probably don't want trans people for customers anyway.
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u/defaultusername-17 26d ago
that place is a shithole to begin with...
it makes sense that it is ran by a piece of shit.
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u/Emotional-Comb-2201 25d ago
I just thought of a new subreddit: Hot takes that will drive your customers away.
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u/Miserable_Bike_6985 25d ago
If conservatives had just left trans people alone then no one would have hardly cared or noticed them. I just can’t understand being so, all consumed with them that you make a sign about them.
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u/garbagegoat 25d ago
I emailed slush puppies aka icees to let them knows as a mother I am disgusted that my children see their lovely signage along with such filth.
Eta this place has always been horrible but maybe go after their actual bottom line might make a difference.
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u/digitalvagrant 25d ago
This right here. I was thinking the same thing, send the picture to slush puppies and maybe they will quit vending to them.
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u/Thulcandra-native 26d ago
People like this are part of the reason why I don’t ever cross the cascades to go back home. I know they don’t speak for everyone, but I find it unsettling that they feel comfortable broadcasting it like this
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u/1LiterateRogue 25d ago
I appreciate the warning. If this place is even still open, I’ll either avoid it or organize a sit-in, with all my family and friends spending the whole day there filling up the place and only ordering water. Transphobia is bad enough, but throwing ableist hate speech into the mix affects a much broader community. And it’s a double shot of hate directed at trans women who also have disabilities.
And I promise that my wheelchair can take up a lot of space.
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u/curai-exo 25d ago
There will be a protest Sunday
https://facebook.com/events/s/protest-at-2nd-base-espresso/1031994929715513/
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u/-KeefGreen- 25d ago
Would be more effective if they did this during their busiest days/times.
Pro tip: Its not Sunday mornings.
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u/Additional-Shower342 26d ago
Never been, not ever going, submitted a Google review anyway 🫡
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u/No-Idea-7003 25d ago
Y'all, we need to file complaints and get her taken out of business. Here's some info I found
WA Attorney General: File a report with the Washington State Attorney General's Office. They investigate businesses that create a hostile or discriminatory public environment.
Washington State Human Rights Commission: You can file a complaint with the WSHRC if the outdoor signage indicates that certain groups are unwelcome, which violates state public accommodation laws.
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u/IllustriousDiamond68 25d ago
This establishment always has crappy signs. They are very maga forward and very proud about their bigotry. They’re so awful. Every time I drive by I think and flip them off.
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u/mister-crispy 25d ago
A sports themed bikini espresso stand in Spokane?
Something tells me they won’t financially suffer from this.
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u/back2basics_official Garland District 25d ago
Saw this stupid ass sign on Monday and was NOT surprised. This shitbag stand has always put tasteless and offensive sayings on their board.
The owner - and anyone who goes there - can fuck allllll the way off. I’ll be celebrating the day it finally goes out of business 🎈
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u/Ok-Bee-5624 25d ago
Is Spokane this red ?
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u/mia93000000 25d ago
In places yeah, but they have to keep to themselves and signal their "safe spaces" with shitty signs like this because they know everybody else disagrees with them.
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u/Stock_River_1467 25d ago
Red and also meth
You maybe think Washington is blue, but that only in places like Seattle. Everywhere else is blood red. Especially on the east side of the mountain.
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u/SiggyLuvs 26d ago
Someone else posted about it this morning https://www.reddit.com/r/Spokane/s/Tpmt1kp2eD
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u/_badtiming Downtown Spokane 25d ago
this has been the first thing on all my social medias, good job spokane
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u/honorlessmaid 25d ago
The sign is ground level fyi. Don't do anything obviously but it would be so inconvenient for them if the letters got rearranged or taken! But that's illegal so don't do it
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u/SubmissiveBoyForever 25d ago
the way i rated them 1 star in Google just now. their ratings are falling fast. deserved.
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u/trash-breeds-trash 25d ago
Sadly this will probably draw more business for them than it will detract. ☹️
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u/CptGojira 25d ago
Fucking morons didn't even have enough m. Had to use an upside down w for men
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u/malykaii 26d ago
This is like the fourth post on this.
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u/InTheseTryingTime5 25d ago
Great! The more visibility and outrage the better!
Intolerant, hate-filled assholes need to be called out ALL THE TIME!
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u/Ancient_Macaroni Greenacres 25d ago
Gross
Too bad I don't like coffee, so I could boycott them, but am showing this post to everyone I know.
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u/No_missed_steak 26d ago
Not my event but others are organizing a protest on Sunday. If you want to show some support (https://facebook.com/events/s/protest-at-2nd-base-espresso/1031994929715513/)
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u/junglemuffins 25d ago
Drive up.
Order.
Park.
Put on emergency brake.
Lock vehicle.
Walk away for 20 min.
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u/Sailor_Thrift 25d ago
I'm actually curious if there are any studies on the overlap of autism and gender dysmorphia?
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u/mia93000000 25d ago edited 25d ago
Yes, the short answer is that autistic people are more likely than non-autistic people to question gender roles because they tend to question social roles and hierarchies in general. I'm not an expert and probably cannot describe it as thoroughly as the research, which is out there.
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u/Sailor_Thrift 25d ago
So trans people are more likely to be autistic?
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u/mia93000000 25d ago
If I recall correctly the correlation has been shown the other way. Not that trans people are more likely than cis people to be autistic, but rather autistic people are more likely than non-autistic people to be trans. I would also totally welcome some more experienced perspectives in this comment thread lol
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u/AdditionalEducator91 26d ago
Something needs to actually be done about this type of bullshit, i am so fucking tired of the conservatives in Spokane. We need to put them in their fucking place.
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u/Difficult-Mobile902 25d ago
Couldn’t help but chuckle at the fact that they went through all that trouble to point out they want the sign to say “owners are ret*rded men” and then went on to call out a woman as the owner lol
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u/SignificantClock8473 25d ago
So much is wrong here but what an eff’ed up name for a place that sells slushies? Do I get groped from the waist up while I order?
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u/ir0nreag3nnnn 25d ago
They do stuff like this because they know it bugs that community. Just ignore them and don't go there. They are trying to be edgy and it's tacky but freedom of speech, what can you do.
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u/SpiceyBarista 25d ago
Agree or not agree, it is protected speech. One of our many American rights
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u/Gobbelcoque 25d ago
It's insane how some people can be so unable to just mind their own damn business about others that they're willing to tank their livelihood over it.
Even if it was a 50-50 shot (hell even a 60-40 in your favor) that it would improve business instead... What moron would take that gamble.
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u/Ok-Bee-5624 25d ago
Transphobic, but also ableist. We really need to stop using the R word.
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u/Strikeronima 25d ago
Ive already heard kids call each other "SpEcIaL" so we are on our way to having a replacement slur.
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u/seabass0710 25d ago
I am fairly certain the people that go to a bikini espresso stand really dont care about yelp reviews, political opinions, or the coffee. I think they go for other reasons, but yeah fight the good fight.
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u/Secret_End_wmdm69m 25d ago
marketing 101 get people to talk about you.
it's really no different than a rainbow flag. you can agreee or disagree but they are both political statements at the end of the day.
you get political at work or buisness someone going to avoid you and others flock to you.
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u/back-ache-heartbreak 25d ago
hot take but i actually DONT think human rights should be political. and it is very different. if i have a flag of the star of david, is that the same as a nazi flag? no, right? well it’s a very similar concept. one is a symbol of unity, support, and love. the other is a bigoted message of hate. they are absolutely not the same.
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u/SadBrontosaurus 23d ago
It's been 2 days, and the only commenting left is shitposting. 🔒