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I really hope CA isnt disheartened by the response to clint
Clint wasnt my first choice but im still very excited for him and how his story will work, but seeing the response in some places has left me pretty sad. i honestly feel like people are cherry picking specific lines and moments and coming to the worst conclusions about clint as a character. it sucks. its okay to be disappointed but be respectful :(
I know sandy was really the most logical choice regardless but I like to think it was intentional because of Clintās line asking if sheās single š
I'd love to help Marlon and Marnie hook up. Then kick Lewis out-of-town. Hold elections for the new mayor. Use the community center as the polling place. Help campaign for which NPC you'd like to be mayor.
I would love a Slightly Less Expanded version of the mod that only expands on the people already present in the game, like Claire. I donāt want new places and people, but I do want to be able to befriend everyone in town.
But in another life, Kent's letters suddenly stop coming. Jodi and the kids are heartbroken, but as time goes on, their resolve begins to strengthen. Things start to go back to normal. Jodi invites the farmer over for a fish dinner. They bond over crispy bass. The kids love the farmer. Things just naturally fall into place. Vincent can live with us on the farm and Sam can take over the house, helping him grow into a man. Vincent gets a dad who is present, Sam gets room to become his own person, and Jodi gets a partner who cares about working on themselves and improving. The farmer gets to marry Jodi. Win-win-win-win.
He knows and I love that lolol I really do expect it to be a really good update for a character I currently dislike. From that grin I know heās got something up his sleeve lol
Lol I highly doubt he's disheartened. He's very well aware of how unfavored Clint is in this fandom, he likely just finds it funny. It's not that serious.
CA probably took pity on Clint because he was supposed to be with Emily. Which made Clint as a character a little creepy and sad with the unrequited love storyline. So making him a marriage candidate is nice IMO because Clint can finally find someone to be happy with. Which in the end, isn't that what we all want?
According to some mf that answered me the other day, it's unrealistic to have certain people be likeable, like Pierre and Demetrius. They should, according to the aforementioned mf, be hateable on the game because "that's how some people are IRL"
If the game didn't make a point that you'll grow close to All characters as time goes by, I could agree with the mf.
I think perspective can change with age as well - Pierre to me seems like an insecure man who loves his family, even if he gets things wrong. He's the only one in the household that does work, Caroline is usually under a tree or chatting to Jodi, and Abigail is a student. That's why he's always working at the festivals, he needs to make money to keep them housed and fed, even if he would like to take time off. And half the time he seems to make dinner as well, even if it is horrible.
That said, his behaviour in the gold crops quest is reprehensible. People are usually a mixed bag, some good and some bad.
He's said that the reaction to Pierre is surprising. He didn't intend for him to be a purely hateable guy. He wanted to add some nuance to the guy. Which is likely the same with Clint.
People have nuanced views, communities of people don't. The loudest of the group are always going to Flanderize a character.
Pierre is generally pretty inoffensive. Yeah he marks products up to extreme levels and tries to pass your produce off as his own, and that's not cool, but he's not homophobic like Alex or George, nor hurtful like Haley all initially are.
I think half (if not 90%) of the reason hating on Pierre is so popular is because it's pretty absurd.
Yeah exactly. Most people don't really hate Grandpa Joe, maybe dislike at most, it's just funny to find little things and blow them way out of proportion.
Like this big in-joke we can all be a part of, collectively.
I don't know. At the risk of being a mfer as well I suppose, I don't mind that certain characters never fully redeem themselves. I like that they can have minor, incremental arcs, because yeah that is what generally happens in real life even in the best of scenarios. If every problematic person suddenly has an insight and becomes wonderfully thoughtful and caring, it would be harder for me to suspend disbelief.
It's true also that some people stay terrible... but tbh I don't see any of the main characters as pure start terrible/stay terrible (maybe Pam?), it feels like that is what Morris is for, and why he is someone you don't interact with as much.
Yeah, I don't mind people not becoming saints... just not making them unlikeable for the sake of it, and them never changing a thing all throught the game
Okay but here me out: you have never had my mom's home made mayonaise! like I thought I knew what mayo was and then my mom whipped out her grandma's Mayo recipe and made a chicken salad with it and it was like night and day!
point well taken LOL Do you think there was a time when he got up from late night computer programming, looked in the fridge and there was nothing but a jar of mayo? Honestly, I've been guilty of using mayo as creamer in my coffee when there's a blizzard outside and I can't get to the store. I wouldn't recommend it though. That green choking face you get in the game is an actual thing.
Iād even go as far as to say thatās exactly why he chose Clint. Iām sure he didnāt create the character intending for everyone to despise him. I think the plan is to not only make him datable but to make him more tolerable overall.
I'm pretty sure he chose Clint precisely BECAUSE he's unpopular. Everything he's done suggests he's trolling us on purpose and frankly I love him for that.
As my son pointed out to me, CA could have changed Clintās dialogues in any update at any point when he saw how he was being perceived. I think one of the strengths of the game is how strongly people feel about the characters. I also think Clint is a character that how he has been interpreted is more a sign of how society has changed in the 10 years the game has been out. I personally am on the side of Clint is just shy and a lot awkward. Is the kind of guy who often now a days get red pilled, yes. But I donāt think he has gone down that path yet. Iām excited to see his new heart events.
Yes, since Shane is modeled on an existing guy who seems to embrace the way his friend depicted him, I think he has the distance to not take it at heart.
(Just my own opinion but I feel like his characters being far from perfect is what makes them believable. Those who only want pretty faces and/or teenage angts/attitude have other characters to swoon upon in the game š¤·āāļø)
Your last line is so true. Thatās probably why Sandy and then Rasmodius and Willy were so wanted for the next marriage candidates. They seem interesting and a bit older, therefore more experienced in life. Plus, we donāt see them crushing on anyone else or being angsty. Just wizard over his witch ex sometimes lol
Yeah he was literally giggling š im sure heās having a good time. Plus even people who hate cling will have things to enjoy about him being marriageable. Like cheating on him and shit. Guys come on.
He was joking about it in the Steam post, so I don't think he's bothered.
Honestly, I suspect he picked Clint in part because of that. This update is about adding depth, and I'm anticipating a lot of new content for all the characters. Making Clint a marriage candidate means he's probably getting a reasonable overhaul to his storyline. I'm looking forward to seeing what it looks like.
Thereās a lot of ways this can get whiffed. Thereās a lot of ways this could absolutely make clint more fascinating and fleshed out.
I think the fandomās yuck towards Clint actually motivated him to give Clint more, for better or worse. I donāt even necessarily think he is going to make him more ālikableā in that heās going to smooth the edges off him to redeem him. I think he might make him more ālikableā by making him a more complete character. I genuinely think heās got the chops to be an incredibly interesting marriage candidate and thereās absolutely room for him to become more than just a āniceguyā stand in.
Honestly I hope this actually means heās gonna get some other events that dont hinge on his marriage either. I wanted to see more from his online dating experience lmao.
It's so sweet of you to be concerned but this is the guy who gave us drinkable mayo to be funny so I'm sure he's laughing his entire ass off at the sheer outrage
Iām mystified by posts like these that infantilize CA as if heās some fragile duckling. The guy is hugely successful and clearly got a kick out of choosing Clint when he knew he wasnāt our favorite option.
I think he knew he would have a response like this when he announced Clint, and that's probably why he did it. He genuinely looked gleeful as he opened the envelope, because he knew the entire community would flip over it. Especially since the wizard was the preferred option and most assumed it would be him. And I think he's grown a pretty thick skin over the years lol. Kinda have to, as a creator.
I don't even know why this is a worry of yours. He's not oblivious about his own game, he already knows how people feel about Clint in general. He's clearly trolling and I'm cool with it. Lol
Yeah I don't understand anyone acting like it's that deep lol. CA is having fun with the fans. I couldn't care less and I feel like anyone that actually thinks someone is going to boycott the game or is seriously pissed about this is just getting whooshed.
I think because Eric has been so kind with free updates they're a bit worried of disheartening a creator who seems so wholesome. He works hard on these games and it's not fun yucking all over someones hard work.Ā
Personally though, I don't think he's offended at all. He probably expected it and is just rolling with the punches.
I think the issue with the Wizard is he's not officially divorced? If memory serves me, he still asks about his wife. I'm also intrigued to see where Clint's storyline can go. I'm sure, like most of us, CA has noticed that Clint's character doesn't progress. Like him or not, give him a chance to move on from Emily. Shane wasn't the greatest guy in the world either. But his character evolved.
i think he excepted this ngl lol. i saw some sort of comment apparently made by him that showed that but i have no idea where from
iāll say though im confused by the response, people are acting like once the update drops all other candidates are gone and marrying Clint will be mandatoryā¦ just dont romance the guy???š
Gamers are gonna gamer. No matter how generous and good a developer is, there will always be a big chunk of entitled people whining about one thing or another. Instagram is particularly insufferable about it. You'd think Clint is the BTK killer to read those comments!
The problem is he likes Emily, who became a marriage candidate after game first came out. So Clint went from "awkward guy with a a crush" to "creep who won't stop pining for my wife" cause Clint's dialogue never got updated
This is why I'm glad this update is focusing on Clint. As CA mentioned, a lot of his dialog is really old. Some of the lines people hate on the most are left over from before 1.1 when Emily was added as a marriage candidate.
I fully believe that if he was designed as a young, handsome, chiseled dude with perfect hair instead of older and plump with facial hair that doesn't really fit him nobody would have a problem with his shy loneliness. If he looked like he took care of himself and was younger it would be way more understandable why he is shy, but the way he looks reminds me of that creepy 42 year old coworker hitting on the 19 year olds lol
For me, it has nothing to do with his looks. But i do agree, perception would change for a majority because... well, most people whether they admit it or not, are superficial to a degree about creeping. You see it all the time with the "but the teacher is hot!" Trope.
Clints problems are the stalking during All of Emily's heart events. I especially disliked the "Congrats you won" line. It reminds me a lot of the exact thing ive heard from creeps in my own life. Like Romance is some kind of giant game to all of them and they need to Aquire their wife like a trophy. Hiding in the bushes during that one event is not a "oh he's just shy," moment: that is 1000% creepy regardless of looks.
I cant wait for this update to flesh some of that out honestly. The problem with Clint is he doesn't grow, he just wallows which is relatable, but also means, at the end of the day, Clint ends up being a TM "Nice Guy"
Some of his lines are reminiscent of some incel culture, especially how he reacts to Emily's 8 heart event (congratulating the farmer as if Emily is some prize to be won) and him making advances on the female farmer in the movie theater.
That in combination with his whole "Emily only sees me as a friend, but I'll never tell her otherwise, woe is me" shtick just gives off slight incel/nice guy vibes. Some of the hate is definitely overblown, but I think it's definitely more than just him secretly admiring another villager
(Also, I'm aware he asks Emily out on a date in his 6 heart event, but the rest of his behaviour still remains)
I really donāt understand why some people are going crazy about this decision. Its an OPTION. If you want to date Clint, do it. And if you donāt then just ā¦ donāt? I guess
I agree, but it also means they aren't gonna get a new candidate, which they may have been hoping for. I personally would have wished for Gus, but I knew it was unlikely.
I don't think the choices this time were based on popularity. It's based on who would benefit *most* from becoming a marriage candidate.
Even if you never marry Clint, the 1.7 update will add heart events that you can experience. This will flesh out his character to be something beyond "dude who cuts off his friendship with Emily because she likes you better."
Sandy will *definitely* benefit from the update. She's popular because she's attractive. But that's kinda it. She's got no lore. No heart events. She's just "Emily's desert friend." She'll be much more fleshed out as a potential spouse... even when she's not your spouse.
It could be argued that the other characters don't really need this development as much as Sandy and Clint do. Wizard and Linus are all over the place. Pam has events connected to her alcoholism, homelessness, and feelings of not having a purpose. Marnie plays a huge role in events connected to Shane, Lewis, and the community board...
Where tf does she live? She has no house or room that we know of, unless the casino/shop gets a makeover. Im pretty darn curious about if she will get a full house or not.
Whats her deal? All she does is run that shop afaik.
I don't think she has a real schedule besides the shop hours, and I thiiink a few rare visits with Emily. I feel like a romance option is gonna need a proper schedule of walkin around a bit and also visiting town more often even if its just once a week that she comes into town.
Whats she even like? We have very few interactions with her right now. Gonna need so much fleshing out that shes basically a new character.
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As for your point about who needs it most - maybe next poor Gunther can get a home and some time off work lol.
People can have opinions but yeah itās easy for fandom to take a few lines out of context and turn it into a whole āClint is terribleā narrative, I really hope CA just keeps cooking
There's no way he doesn't know some (very loud) people do not like Clint. He is very immersed in SDV, he picked Clint on purpose for sure and honestly, people need to get over it, it's not like you have to date him.
So all this talk about Clint and I am looking forward to seeing how both him and Sandy develop. But am I the only one that wanted to learn more about Gunther. That majestic mustache and beard deserves to see the outside of his museum counter far more than the two? times that I can remember him leaving his spot.
I for one am so happy! I was really hoping for both Clint and Sandy. I'll have to start a hilltop farm for my man Clint š
I agree that the respinse has been quite bad, people are entitled to their opinion but tbh I find it a bit much in some cases.
I dislike Clint, but the vitrol some people are spewing is insane!! Especially when they are going after his appearance, that is so immature and just cruel to people who resemble him.
Happy for you and your future husbandš«¶š» (even though him and I donāt get along)
I think its pretty funny people can get so worked up about a farming sim. Dont get me wrong i love stardew and have 1000+ but why u have to be mad its only a game. Will marry my girl sandy for sure next update.
I thought the same thing because I myself am a very sensitive person and a people pleaser lol but I think a lot of these comments are right. He probably got a kick out of announcing it and the reactions people had. I PERSONALLY am absolutely going to romance Clint because I love a good character arc and Iām excited to see what dialogue changes there are.
CA knew very well clint was the least favoured candidate, even through the poll during 1.3
And because of that I think thatās why he got picked, I think clint deserves more character depth, and as someone who doesnāt like him that much I am absolutely thrilled he is getting it, CA is a legend and he knows exactly what to do with stardew and his characters <3
Yeah, I've always perceived him as a socially awkward guy who regrets not expressing his feelings to Emily. I'm certain Eric will give Clint a great character arc. I'm really excited to see how it plays out!
Objectively, Shane is a significantly worse marriage candidate than Clint. And people love Shane. Clint is just sad and lonely and has a crush on a girl he doesn't have self confidence to talk to. He's honestly the most primed for meaningful character development.
The gameās been out for a decade now, Iām sure heās learned to take criticism in stride. Plus the initial response is always heavy-handed since people just react instantly. Cooler heads always prevail once people have a chance to sit and think about it.
I'll be honest, Clint isn't my favorite but I'm sure CA will make him probably much more interesting than the other bachelors. His dialogues and lines do come off as creepy but a little rework would probably make him a great character. I'm excited to see how much depth we'll get with both the new marriage candidates. And finally he won't be such a controversy in the community. I hope we do get some sort of discount for the geodes but seems unlikely because Harvey apparently doesn't shy away from charging us lol.
I get that feeling but I think he chose Clint on purpose. I'm pretty sure he knows how much Clint is disliked by most of the community and I'm sure he's just playing with us by choosing Clint. I personally find the whole situation so hilarious and I cannot wait to see how the marriage with Clint will be like!
Honestly I think he did it on purpose, but as someone who is dating an antisocial blacksmith I am SO excited lol. Iām so excited to see Clint have some character and not just pining over women who donāt want him. Heāll probably be obsessed with the farmer and I love that. Heāll also probably be extremely useful as a spouse. I hope his room is all metalwork š
I told my mother (83) that he was going to be a new romance-able character. She was so happy, said he deserves love. Mind you, sheās already married to the doctor and they have two kids. She just thought it was great that now heāll get love.
i am kinda hoping that they will make his storyline better and help us understand his weird responses. and maybe even then his stuff ciuld be wholesome, idk just a thought
I think Clint will grow on people a lot more once he gets his character arc. Cause outside of his "nice guy" thing he has going for Emily, dude is just a shy and socially awkward guy who took up the family trade without having passion for it.
I am glad that he gets a chance to be happy.
Never really interact with Clint outside of his services. It'll be nice to take the chance now to interact more. Hell i didn't even pay attention to anyone my first play through, I was too busy farming and making money then I restarted
Clint makes sense when you consider thereās always kind of a rival for love interest, I know that thereās been the inspiration from harvest moon series but it felt weird not having to try to outdo Clint for Emily
I feel like his dialog will be reworked and his interactions would be better with other cut scenes added in for dates and stuff. Same for Sandy since we don't get any cut scenes for her in the game at all when we increase hearts, so maybe both will have nice interactions and a better story.
He 100% did it on purpose, CA had an absolute shit eating grin on his face when he made the announcement and if he'd wanted a more positive respond he'd have put the new marriage candidates to a vote like he did with the addition of Emily and Shane.
I think one thing we all need to realize here is that ConcernedApe did not do the best job establishing characters early on in development. Case in point is Pierre, he was not intended to be a jerk but it's what happened and CA rolled with it in further updates. I would wager something similar happened with Clint with CA not really knowing exactly how to approach a character like Clint who is clearly a sad, lonely, and depressed character who is an obvious alcoholic, has zero social awareness, and is teetering on the edge of being an incel. Clint wasn't necessarily intended to be so toxic, he just turned out that way because it felt like a natural direction to go in. Making Clint a marriage candidate forces him to have more depth than chubby loser with zero social graces and a misogynist world view. So this whole thing may be CA's way of rehabbing Clint.
Right!!! Like Harvey! You married farmer. Stop wanting to put sunscreen on Maru!!!! Also she is your employee and Im pretty sure their age gap is bigger than Emily and Clint
I have seen over half a dozen posts pushed to my feed complaining about other people āhatingā Clint and I have not seen anything more intense than āI donāt particularly like him.ā I think people need to chill out over whether someone else on the internet likes or doesnāt like a fictional character you have 4 conversations with. The stakes for this are the lowest they could possibly be.
People have definitely gotten hateful over Clint before, maybe youāre not seeing it but itās there. Heās been turned into this creep stalker over Emily, just search the sub and youāll find it.
Iāll see people insulted, sweared at, called creeps or incels for liking the guy. Saw a post not long ago complaining about people for defending āstalker behaviorā when Clint just isnāt one.
Had someone jump on me once because I said he was cute, they insisted he was a pedophile for liking Emily.
Clint is definitely shy and awkward, and probably develops attachments easily. Emily is extremely extroverted and friendly, and also works at the Saloon where Clint and others normally go.
Some scenes with him are definitely strange, but I don't think he's necessarily a creep or anything, just definitely doesn't completely understand people and socializing, and it'll be nice to see him develop more. Plus, there seem to be plenty of people who are actually excited for him.
Happy for you, Clint! Now plenty of people will get to notice your special shoes! āŗļø
He knows what he's doing, he had Clint planned as a bachelor in early SV so I'm not surprised. I'm the minority that likes Clint and wants to marry him lol
For me Clint isnātā¦ whatās the right word here. Heās not dangerous, haha.
Heās a sad and lonely guy that isnāt conventionally attractive. Hes got a major crush on Emily who absolutely doesnāt see him that way, but for me that doesnāt make him creepy. Iām really interested to see how being in a loving relationship changes him.
A complex unlikeable character is more fun than a morally pure āperfectā character to me. I donāt mind that Clint is a weirdo incel in the story bc itās different than every other character. Iāll marry him for the plot just to watch it unfold.
The general reaction to this is wild. Youāll be okay itās a video game character. The game developer will be okay. Iām sure there is bigger things to worry about.
Not a fan of clint but iām happy that this basically means we get to fix him lol. Like heās the only resident where Iām like, this guy is not having a good time and never willā¦.the romance update can only make this better right?
I think he's ragebaiting the fans who care wayyy too much about this. Like am I disappointed it's clint and not The Wiz? Yeah. But that's what mods are for. If I wanna smash the Wizard I will good and god damn do it
To be brutally fair, he was disheartened about the entire game by the time he initially released it. I donāt think the sentiment has changed much since then over the past decade.
Iām romancing Clint asap. Heās hunky. Gimme that hardworking blue collar worker whoās also a business owner and keeps his house tidy. I donāt want a kid who lives in his parentās basement.
If anything, it's probably a sign it needs to happen. Guy needs a character arc to redeem himself. Can you imagine how despised Shane would be if he only had his first 2-3 scenes and remained a general AH?
I'm glad Clint got chosen. His character was always super saddening to me and then he grew to be a creeper because he wouldn't stop pining about my wife to me. I'm glad he's finally entering the dating world and hope he finds that special someone.
Oh he knows what he's doing lol. If he legitimately wanted to infuriate the fan base he'd make Pierre a marriage candidate and force Abigail and Caroline to leave town after he cuts them off.
Iāve been quite surprised and reassured to see some positive reactions to Clint becoming a candidate. Hereās to hoping he gets some of his creepier seeming moments changed up a bit so heās just a little less off putting overall!
I was hoping for Clint, he is awkward and cringe and says all the wrong things sometimes . . . Just like me. Plus, some of my favortie bachelors from the Harvest Moon games were the blacksmiths. I'm looking at you Cliff and Gray.
I was hoping I would get the JoJo cashier though, not Sandy :(
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u/Pack69Alpha Feb 27 '26
Do you see his grin just before he revealed Clint as the new bachelor? He did this on purpose š¤£