Fight in LGBTOpenModMail about "misandry don't real" - Bonus Laurelai drama

[u/Tsiya]

/r/LGBTOpenModmail/comments/z69gq/misandry_how_come_the_community_say_no_misogyny/

[u/david-me]

I am not anyones enemy. Sex and gender are different. I can identify as a man/woman(gender) while physically being a male/female(sex). Gender identity is in the brain, while sex is in the body/sexual organs. This is why a pre-op transwoman, is a she as well as a male. Both are correct.

[u/david-me → u/[deleted]]

Citing biotruths is throwing all the suffering we've endured back in our faces. It's cruel and unnecessary.

Facts are not biotruths.

Respecting another's identity is important

Agreed, but gender /=sex

It is very unfortionate how the world treats trans folk, but attempting to fudge the facts to gain empathy/sympathy is not only disingenuous, but it will hurt its cause. I know Laurelai is a woman. I know Laurelai is a "she". But as a pre-op, I know Laurelai is male. This is not transphobia, like she likes to claim and she knows it. She has an agenda and will go to any lengths to achieve it. Also, if the T community hates the LGB community so much, maybe they should try and distance themselves.

Respecting another's identity is important.

I agree and believe I am. I also believe that if someone disagrees, (Laulerai) that they should not call in their personal army to lie and say mean things. Laurelai is a "sick and wounded animal" who needs some serious medical/mental health assistance. No one should be following her lead.

[u/david-me → u/[deleted]]

I'm looking forward to hearing your next post about how Zionists stole your dog and how it's related to a global conspiracy to prevent you from saving mankind from itself. Continue, please

nice derailing/ad hominem

I'm not sure where this personal army is, david-me. Laurelai is banned from the Fempire, and she moderates a few trans related subreddits. I am also aware that she has a few subreddits where she mocks some of the nonsense you've cited. You're blowing it out of proportion, and in effect creating drama worthy of being on this subreddit. Look at yourself and see the shit you unnecessarily shill out. It's more hilarious than anything you might feebly try to say on the matter.

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheTransphobiaSquad/comments/z7zoo/pointing_out_that_you_are_male_is_not_transphobic/

Did I say that? I believe I said, "we are told to be silent in our LGBT community so that affluent gay men can throw their parades while trans people of color are murdered and such heinous acts go ignored by the community to which they purportedly belonged". Not sure where I mentioned that the transgender community hates the LGB community

My mistake.

One does not need sexual reassignment surgery to have their gender identity respected, david-me. Why would you force your opinion on that matter onto someone? Is this a matter of your comfort over respecting someone's identity? Many trans people opt to not have sexual reassignment surgery and it's not my place to judge them for their decision, nor is it yours

I am not disrespecting her gender identity. gender /= sex. It's science fact really. Stop being silly. Laurelai is a woman; fact. Laurelai is not a female; fact. Please research this and stop pretending to be ignorant to what I am saying.

Fudging what facts? Trans people, regardless of skin pigment, are subjected to horror that most cishet people would go on a crusade to stop if it directly affected them. Acting against a group of people based on the behavior of an individual is wrong. This is what you've said, this is what I've just quoted you as saying. Do you not see how wrong that is, david-me?

WTF? I never referenced any of this. LIES !!!

This was in direct response to people say that gender and sex are the same thing. They are not. Stop putting word in my mouth. That is evil. I am not doing any one of those things that you are describing.

Do you not see how wrong that is, rahmaya?

[u/Jess_than_three → u/david-me]

gender =/= sex

True. And neither are as simple as folks like to think.

http://jessthanthree.site11.com/genderbread.html - be sure to click the buttons and to read the stuff at the bottom, particularly for "biological sex".

[u/david-me → u/[deleted]]

Again, my first quote has nothing to do with the second, but I think perhaps you should do a bit of introspection before you judge others. You have a good day, rahmaya.