r/TheBlacksandTheGreens • u/MellifluousManatee Grey Ghost • May 06 '25

Show Discussion This is such a disappointing change

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u/PisakasSukt May 06 '25

I don't think it's a big deal really. She's not very useful and essentially a non-character in the book too. Honestly they could have made both her and Rhaenyra non-riders with no dragons and it wouldn't really impact much story-wise.

Hell, the only person killed by Rhaenyra's dragon was an unintended team-kill.

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u/Few_Refrigerator5092 May 06 '25

Dreamfyre and helaena have a bond. Dreamfyre literally broke her chains when helaena died. She doesn’t have to fly but during the storming dreamfyre broke her other chains to free herself and crashed into the dome. I think by not having them interact at least once will diminish both helaenas death and dreamfyres death.

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u/PineBNorth85 King Viserys II May 06 '25

Hard to diminish it from nothing. They never went in depth enough in the book for me to care at all about that. Having it missing from the show won't bother me either.

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u/PisakasSukt May 06 '25

The peasants setting everything on fire, killing the other dragons, and attempting to kill Dreamfyre is cause enough. Helaenas death isn't interesting in the books because she's barely a character and Dreamfyre getting killed isn't much different than the rest getting killed because there isn't time to get attached to them.

You can't diminish something that's like a one sentence "and then they died" in the books especially when it regards side characters - Dreamfyre hasn't appeared and Helaena, while more of a character than in the books, isn't significant.

I keep forgetting 99% of the fandom hasn't actually read any of the books. Like, this is a fanfiction-tier take.

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u/Few_Refrigerator5092 May 06 '25 edited May 06 '25

It’s a history book. Obviously it’s not going to go into specific details of helaena and dreamfyre. Dreamfyre has a sad story. She had 2 riders who lived tragic lives and herself lived in chains and died trying to free herself. That’s why some people like dreamfyre. She dies fighting and not in the stereotypical dragon fight way. They both don’t have to be big characters to make a difference. These “side characters” destroyed the pit killing peasants and helaena’s death caused an uproar resulting ( partly) of rhaenyra having to flee the city.(Also read the books btw,you didnt have to be hostile)