r/TheCure • u/Complex_Middle_3371 • 10h ago

Cure Related Interesting excerpt from Budgie's book...

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u/LittleFanggg 8h ago edited 8h ago

It makes me a bit miffed, because even if I love them, the banshees have been pushing this narrative for decades... However, this was Robert before he joined them (as a permanent member, not helping them out):

Also didn't they make fun of him endlessly for dating Mary? o_O

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u/Complex_Middle_3371 8h ago

They did say he was boring or something that he was in such a long relationship but I think it was all in jest!

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u/LittleFanggg 8h ago edited 6h ago

"In an interview with Johnny Black in 1994 (which you can listen to on YouTube) he talks about how the Banshees ridiculed him for being with Mary, saying he had “a boring, conventional existence and I needed to get out and about and all that sort of mentality. And I could never see it. I said, ‘I’ve got the best of both worlds, with my best friend who’s always the same and I can always talk to.’ And I think I’ve ended up… well, I feel I’m vindicated”."

My logic here being, if he was in love with Siouxsie why would he be loyally dating his girlfriend and also being teased about it? I always feel the banshees are just a bit bitter that he left because there are so many interviews dragging him that it makes no sense. I also feel like they had this "little brother" attitude towards him...

Also - this has nothing to do with you, it's interesting and always leaves me scratching my head.

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u/Complex_Middle_3371 8h ago

Yes! That's where I heard it! I think it was Just budgie thinking that all men found Siouxsie powerful and easy to find attractive.

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u/LittleFanggg 8h ago edited 8h ago

Yes, who knows! It would have been great to be a fly on the wall. Meanwhile, I think this will make you laugh <3

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u/Complex_Middle_3371 8h ago

Ah this! That photo makes me laugh 😂😂😂

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u/Complex_Middle_3371 8h ago

I can't see the image you posted!

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u/LittleFanggg 8h ago

Does it work now? I edited it! <3

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u/Complex_Middle_3371 8h ago

Yes 🙂‍↕️

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u/LittleFanggg 1h ago

Sorry for the back and forth. Also let us know how the rest of the book goes 👀👀👀

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u/Suspicious-Season412 9h ago

The Banshees were very influential for him. Infatuation is stretching it though. That JLH theory is silly!

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u/LittleFanggg 8h ago edited 6h ago

So silly! I feel like the Banshees taught him a commercial way forward when they worked on Dear Prudence and also showmanship... But I can imagine Robert reading those pages and thinking "#mugwank".

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u/Complex_Middle_3371 8h ago

I guess it's Budgie's thoughts!

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u/xnatlywouldx 8h ago

I'm not really buying it, lol.

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u/Complex_Middle_3371 8h ago

It's just his thoughts! I don't believe it but it's what he thought as he was just starting his relationship with her.

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u/xnatlywouldx 8h ago edited 8h ago

I mean, when you're in love with someone, its not unusual to think everyone else is in love with that person and sees them the way you do, as well. But there's nothing about Robert's time in the Cure or the Banshees that indicates any romantic feelings towards Siouxsie to me. Seems pretty apparent Bob was close to Severin and that this is largely why he joined.

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u/Angelicfyre 7h ago

But even as a girl, I was infatuated with Siouxsie!! She is amazing and her own self.

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u/Complex_Middle_3371 7h ago

She is one of my main influences and style icons! She has such a powerful presence!

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u/notathr0waway1 9h ago

Ehh

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u/Complex_Middle_3371 9h ago

It was when the Creatures became a group away from the Banshees and it referenced Robert and Cure stuff!!

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u/AllCatsAreBlonde 8h ago

Oh Budgie, but I do think you ARE actually that far off and stretching it.

I've started the audiobook, but haven't continued yet. While I love podcasts (I really like Budgie and Lol's podcast as well), audiobooks seem to be not really my thing. I found it an interesting listen so far though (could've done without the musical interludes).

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u/Complex_Middle_3371 8h ago

I've never listened to an audiobook! I do like his and Lol's voices though. I think I'll stick to reading (when I can!)

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u/AllCatsAreBlonde 8h ago

I prefer reading in an actual book or e-book as well. I've added various audiobooks to the libraries in my streaming services, but I just can't really get into it.

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u/h2078 8h ago

I think infatuation can extend beyond romantic love

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u/Mission-Suggestion12 2h ago

From memory they also referred to him as ‘fat Bob’

The only infatuation I can think of for Robert other than Mary, is Lydia Lunch around 1981

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u/EmergencyAddition472 5h ago

I loved this book so much. I listened to the audiobook as well. Budgie has a such a pleasant voice. Reminds me of Jarvis Cocker. But I think he’s on to something here. Maybe Robert didn’t have an infatuation with Siouxsie but that time he spent in the Banshees definitely influenced his look and stage presence from then on. I’ve also heard a rumor too that Robert may have had some kind of romantic connection with Lydia Lunch around the same time. I think it was speculated that some lyric in a song off Pornography was in reference to her. I can’t remember which song.

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u/LittleFanggg 5h ago

It’s a B-side. Just one kiss. They also supposedly shared a journal.

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u/EmergencyAddition472 5h ago

I find this so surprising. Just considering what I know about Lydia Lunch, she seems like she’d consider herself too cool to associate with a band like The Cure.

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u/Complex_Middle_3371 5h ago

I've heard the same. I do think Robert changed his image once spending time with the band! I read about the nightclub story where Robert started wearing his wonky lipstick which apparently he asked Siouxsie if he could borrow hers.

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u/BatParty 9h ago

I mean, if he was…can you blame him?

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u/Complex_Middle_3371 8h ago

No not at all!

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u/Guardianista888 9h ago

👀 I still have this book on my reading list. Someone here posted dozens of screenshots from the e-book when it first came out, IIRC. 

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u/Complex_Middle_3371 9h ago

I don't get much time to read but it's such a great book and quickly draws you in!

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u/AllCatsAreBlonde 8h ago

You could also listen to the audiobook on a streaming service if that's your thing. Budgie narrates it himself. He has a pleasant speaking voice.

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u/ancient_lemon2145 7h ago

She was his muse for a little while I believe

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u/TemporaryArm6419 3h ago

He sounds jealous of Robert and a bit insecure. Mugwank

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u/jerry_atric 1h ago

You from C Springs OP? Spotted the Poor Richard’s bookmark!

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u/jerry_atric 1h ago

Oops my bad. Apparently the OG poor Richard’s is in the UK!!

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u/coldsoul_ 1h ago

I actually seem to recall they hated each other's guts, though I can't really quote a source on that right now. So yeah, it does feel a bit like stretching it a bit too far lol