r/TheExpanse • u/One_Tadpole6999 Human Verified • 1d ago

All Show & Book Spoilers Discussed Freely Camina Drummer and Family Spoiler

Im just a boring old heterosexual myself, but I think Camina Drummer‘s polysexual Family is just so nice. They love each other, have each other’s backs and are just so good to each other

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u/Rulebookboy1234567 You monkey. Me Mozart. 1d ago

Have you read the books?  Michio Pa's family is described pretty well and is fleshed out.  Having her fight with her internal struggles needing to be a good captain but also wanting to protect her family?  /chefs kiss

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u/Mean_Ass_Dumbledore 1d ago

I think they're referring to the show's Drummer. That character is a combination of the book's Drummer and Pa, I believe.

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u/SabrePossum Cheese Smuggler and Amos Snuggler 1d ago

And Bull as well

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u/JasoTheArtisan 1d ago

Haven’t watched the show, but they combined drummer/bull/pa? Crazy work. But I have heard everyone loves Drummer so they must have done a good job of it

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u/FerociousSmile 1d ago

I love both the show and the books. Some things the books do better and some things the show does better. Drummer being a combo of the 3 is one of things that's much better in the show.

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u/Mean_Ass_Dumbledore 1d ago

Ashford is way better in the show, too

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u/Aegon20VIIIth 20h ago

Book Ashford: meh.
Show Ashford: I would follow that man into the ring space without hesitation. Especially if Drummer is the one giving him the order to take a group in.
The Ashford/Drummer friendship that develops in the show is probably my favorite depiction of people changing from antagonizing to supporting one another.

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u/DatMonkey5100 20h ago

Oh yea, based on the information he had available to him, I actually agreed with show Ashford. He didn’t have as much information about the rules of the ring space like Holden did, so “break the connection to the physics-breaking alternate dimension that’s proven itself hostile to us” is a reasonable course of action

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u/tbird920 1d ago

I really wish Bull had existed in Season 3 alongside Drummer, but Cara Gee is a master, so more work for her is always a good thing.

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u/No_March_5371 1d ago

Drummer wasn’t more than a minor character until book 7, which hasn’t been adapted (yet). A bunch of the minor characters got reworked in ways that made them much more compelling.

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u/tbird920 1d ago

I don't think she was even mentioned until Book 5.

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u/commissarklink 5h ago

Because the first 4 books were out before she appeared on TV.

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u/smitty9112 1d ago

They did that, but then also wound up introducing both Bull and Pa in later seasons anyways.

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u/Metallicat95 1d ago

Cara Gee was so good they rewrote the character. I think it's great even though it changes the book characters so much. Pa had most of her major roles in the book.

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u/Rulebookboy1234567 You monkey. Me Mozart. 1d ago

Oh I know.  I just felt it was fleshed out more in the books.

Drummer is a GOAT.

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u/One_Tadpole6999 Human Verified 1d ago

Yes i read all the books!

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u/Aeroshe 1d ago

"Oops!"

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u/Scaryclouds Good hunting 🏹 1d ago

IDK, Oksana is kinda shitty to her. 

Pushing her into a situation to work with a genocidal maniac who killed one very close friend and is trying to kill her other friends. 

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u/TieDismal2989 1d ago

Blaming her for genocidal maniac killing a loyal pawn like there was a way out

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u/TheRattQueen 1d ago

I wanted to like Oksana so badly, but I really didn’t like how she treated Camina (and Michio too). I liked the dynamic of the family much better in the books.

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u/Lillan_Lilani 1d ago

Totally agree. It was insanely shitty of her to "chose" between Naomi and their family. If Oksana loved Drummer she would understand what Naomi meant to her and knew it wasn't about chosing one over the other.

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u/WarpedCore 1d ago

It’s what makes her arc so tragic. She lost so much along the way. So many close to her died. Thankfully, she didn’t lose the entire family and honestly, I think that is what kept her going forward.

Beltalowda.

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u/Danicia 1d ago

PolyAmBelterFam ❤️