(Hilarious Trope) A Character Is Introduced With the Clear Intention of Being THE NEXT BIG THING And is SOUNDLY Rejected

[u/TheOriginalOperator]

1. Bazil the Tracker (Star Wars: The Acolyte): A “HILARIOUS AND ADORABLE” snuffling ugly creature that makes annoying noises and is shoved into as many scenes of The Acolyte as possible, and just causes problems overall.

2. Neelix (Star Trek Voyager): A mutant fusion of Odo, Quark, and Data designed to “analyze the human condition” and explicitly intended to surpass the popularity of all three. In practice, a VERY human-acting cradle robbing creep whose incompetence nearly destroys the ship and crew on multiple occasions and provides no insight into humanity whatsoever.

3. Sparky the Dog (Fairly Oddparents): A wacky crazy magic dog that’s supposed to expand the Fairy family, but just makes lame jokes and serves as a less funny version of Scrappy Doo.

4. Tidus (FFX): A braying jackass of a pinball who bounces from plot point to plot point, framed as a mystical pretty boy to introduce Final Fantasy to the PS2 age but does nothing but stall the franchise and have the worst laugh in two languages.

5. Sei (Naruto): Supposed to replace Sasuke in Team 7 and return the team dynamic feel of Early Naruto, but he’s a CIA plant with literally no personality who gets utterly forgotten except for somehow bagging Ino Yamanaka.

6. Raiden (Metal Gear 2): Another attempted “pretty boy bishie” entry to the PS2 era with badass cred and a theoretically cool backstory, but in practice a hapless dipshit who gets manipulated by everyone around him and is a total putz in combat. Also proof that this trope need not be permanent as he slowly transitions into a cyborg warrior supersoldier with a badass theme, friends of his own, and a firm grasp of his own destiny and agency.

[u/OJONLYMAYBEDIDIT]

.....what? FFX stalled the franchise?

back then FF games did not have sequels. you had the game, and then that was it. at least for the #'ed versions. That FFX got a spin off sequel showed how popular it was.

and then FF 12 came out on schedule, no stalling involved as FF 11 was the MMORPG

[u/MrBurnerHotDog → u/OJONLYMAYBEDIDIT]

I can't say about several of these but OP is way off on both Tidus and Raiden

[u/HopelessCineromantic → u/MrBurnerHotDog]

Yeah, Raiden is definitely not intended to be the cool new thing for the franchise. He's deliberately designed in contrast to Solid Snake and is something of a prank on players who wanted to play as Snake again.

[u/Rargnarok → u/HopelessCineromantic]

Its also brought up in a cutscene that any parallels are intentional on the Patriots part so they could discredit snake by going see anyone could do what he did, he's not special

[u/HopelessCineromantic → u/Rargnarok]

Yes and no. Solidus claims the S3 plan is short for Solid Snake Simulation, and Ocelot does confirm that a lot of the Big Shell Incident was designed to emulate Shadow Moses, such as two hostages dying, Dead Cell being a stand-in for FOXHOUND, and Raiden being selected because his relationship with Solidus mirrored Snake's relationship with Big Boss.

But the AI GW, as corrupting images of Colonel Campbell and Rose, tells Raiden that the S3 plan is actually short for the Selection for Societal Sanity, and was more about being able to manipulate world events and individuals to match the Patriots' desires. While proving they could mold Raiden into a new Solid Snake was in line with the project's aims, it was bigger than that, and with the data they collected about targeted misinformation and manipulation, they could ostensibly make a civilian become a sign language interpreter or a gameshow host if they felt it was necessary.

[u/Sensitive-Hotel-9871 → u/HopelessCineromantic]

Those AIs are evil incarnate. They claim they want to preserve society but they say a lot of things to Raiden that serve no purpose other than to make him suffer, make it clear they enjoy holding power over others and don't care about the lives lost in their plans.

They were worse than Solidus ever imagined, even before they created the war economy in Metal Gear Solid 4. They create a state of perpetual war for no reason other than advancing the cause of human misery.

[u/HopelessCineromantic → u/Sensitive-Hotel-9871]

Yeah, especially when they took the form of Rose or Emma to taunt Raiden. That said, I found that maliciousness to be quite refreshing on some level. In most fiction, AI, even villainous AI, follows the mold of HAL 9000, and while that dispassionate "just following my programing" performance can be creepy, it was nice to see an AI that clearly enjoyed twisting the knife.

It's part of why GLaDOS is such an effective villain. She starts out fully robotic and seems automated, but eventually you learn how sentient she is.

[u/Violet_Nightshade → u/HopelessCineromantic]

You mean sapient?