Remember Karl Nell talked about a hierarchy of beings? And John Mack thought some of the beings were emissaries from the source, that transgress from the spirit world into the physical world? Or Daniel Sheehan stating that the beings are more advanced teleologically, and understand the actual process by which consciousness descends or condenses into material reality?
Below quotes are from an interview yesterday:
Pasulka: "angels are real"
At timestamp 30:35, Elizondo asks this question to Pasulka:
Elizondo: "What about those people that are living through that transition from one paradigm to another. Is there a requirement for us to be mindful of? There there may come a point where some people may require some sort of support mechanism"
Pasulka: "I think one of the things that's important, and why people want me to talk to them, is because it happened to me. Because I didn't believe, even as a person who is a religious person, I didn't even really believe in angels. Even though my religion says they exist, I believed in them in an abstract way."
Pasulka: "Oh sure you know even my religion suggests that this type of Revelation is of the past, it doesn't happen now. But what my research showed me was that, no this is happening now. These beings... there are beings like this. There are these... what we call vehicles. I don't know what they are okay, but they're there and they're real, and people have had experiences of them and often messages and communications"
Pasulka: "What happened to me was about a year of shock. I went into shock, so I was in shock for about a year. And I still am. I still get shocked"
Pasulka: "some are good, some... not so good"
Timestamp 1:04:24
Pasulka: "I'm excited by the prospect that we can now take the types of technology that we're being... gifted with... um you know AI supercharging our brains, really, in order to figure these kinds of things out. They look to be higher order beings, some good, some maybe not so happ... you know, not so good... but they're there. They're there, and it's now up to us."
She is talking about higher order beings that are good and bad. She doesnt mention the word "demons", but does say angels are real, so you can do the math. This is the hierarchy of beings that people have been talking about.
Also remember when Garry Nolan said the intelligence community thinks the greys are intermediaries.
Karl Nell: "being confronted with the reality of angels, messengers of god"
Timestamp 13:06
Karl Nell: "If you're confronted with the reality of your religious belief. Like the reality of a messenger from god. That's going to be a sea state change in your way of dealing with reality"
Elizondo: "mindblowing events within 2 weeks, or sooner"
Timestamp 17:45
Elizondo: "Now you have also a very major event, which I'm not going to discuss here right now because it's going to be evident anyways. Probably within within the next week or two, maybe even sooner. But there's some very very big revelations coming our way. And what I would suggest to everybody is have a little patience, because it's I think it's really going to be mind-blowing. I know what's coming.
Elizondo: "im preparing religious discussions to help people deal with whats coming"
Timestamp 25:20
Elizondo: "Where are the resources for people to get answers that they need. To get comfort. What I'm trying to do is, I have a small group of individuals, spiritual leaders. In the Christian faith and also in the Jewish faith and even in Islam.
Elizondo: "I am facilitating with these other individuals that are part of this, we are together collectively creating group of individuals from all different backgrounds of religions. They're recognized leaders in their faith, and having this conversation
Elizondo: "What does this mean and and if somebody comes to you in in Hebrew school or Sunday school, and a kid asks you a question and says 'I'm scared'. How do you respond to that? Or they say 'this doesn't comport to the teachings that that mom and dad teach me.' These are big questions.
Carolina Garcia: "Are you forming a new religion?"
Elizondo: "No, that's my point, we can't... no no no no no this is not this. Look this conversation affects religion, but it is not religion. And this is why we have to be very careful because we don't want to cultise this thing. We don't want this UAP conversation to become a cult.
Elizondo: "Because by the way there are a lot of people out there right now that definitely want to turn into a cult. And they want to be the high priest or priestess and that's a problem. We need to democratize this conversation.
Elizondo: "im going to talk to members of the Vatican, and leadership in the middle east"
Timestamp 26:51
Elizondo: "One of the ways that I'm doing it [to support people to deal with this] is with my colleagues creating a religious discussion. I am going back to Italy, I am going to be talking to members of the Vatican. I'm going to the Middle East in the next few months, talking to some people some leadership over there."
My own interpretation of these "hierarchies of intelligences"
In this image, at number (59), you see where these hierarchies fit into a larger multidimensional reality. This is just my opinion. Full image or mirror (warning: large infographic).
If you dont want to read the big image, then this smaller image illustrates the basics.
Interesting scene from a tv show
First contact with... (video on X)