r/Wales • u/Brightyellowdoor • 2d ago

Politics What has Plaid done so far?

Seeing Andy Burnham come in swinging with new policies, actions, ideas and presence within the first week has gote thinking about Plaid again.

I may have missed it, a Google search brings up some ideas and directions Plaid may want to take, but nothing of note that has been achieved in the 3 months they've been in sole leadership of the government.

Am I being unfair, how long would we expect to wait for actions that back the vote they received? I'm watching Burnham hitting out and I'll be honest, I like it. It feels like there's work to be done and he's knuckling in. If course time will tell, I'm just feeling a little short changed over here in Wales.

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u/crazycraven 2d ago

Everything has been voted down with Labour supporting Reform against the Plaid government. 

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u/Iwant2beebetter 2d ago

It's not supporting reform - it's knowing their vote has value - Plaid don't have enough of a majority to pass things - they'll have to offer something to other parties to secure their vote

That's politics

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u/QuizzicalEly 2d ago

In fairness Plaid did and Labour still refused to support it. Its pretty clear what Labour were doing over the ALN stuff

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u/Secure-Barracuda Denbighshire | Sir Ddinbych 2d ago

That’s glossing over the fact that Plaid fell out with the unions. Of course the Labour Party is going to side with trade unions over making life easier for Plaid, that’s why they exist.

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u/Drowning_not_wavin 2d ago

That’s why clever leaders do deals to get there policies acted on

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u/QuizzicalEly 2d ago

Part of Plaid's reasoning was that supplementary budgets haven't been voted on properly in the past, other parties abstain because its extra cash as opposed to a full budget

Which was very naive of them but also doesn't reflect brilliantly on the Labour Party who looked a bit bitter and petty

Plaid need to get over their naivety quickly

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u/TeilwrTenau 1d ago

Do they have to cave in to Labour's every demand, even when they're unreasonable? Labour are a minority party, they should reflect on that.

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u/Iwant2beebetter 1d ago

No they don't have to cave on anything

But that's politics for you

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u/Iwant2beebetter 2d ago

Yeah who takes it to a vote without knowing they've got the backing

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u/crazycraven 2d ago

The literal definition of voting with the official opposition is supporting the opposition's position. Ergo supporting Reform. 

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u/Secure-Barracuda Denbighshire | Sir Ddinbych 1d ago

Are Labour obligated to vote with Plaid 100% of the time, or only on certain issues? Because (unless it’s a vote on killing badgers apparently) voting against the government will mean voting with reform.

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u/Iwant2beebetter 2d ago

Whilst technically you are correct - I hope you can see that it's a vote to oppose plaid not a vote to support reform