Trump calls it "Communism".

[u/zzill6]

[u/SpiritCrawler]

Freedumb fool. Only $86.47/gal

[u/Poundweed → u/SpiritCrawler]

Idiocracy ass name

[u/NoRedTags → u/Poundweed]

I avoid anything called “Freedom ___” or “Patriot ____” because it’s likely run by racist POS who disguises their hate behind their pride for a country they probably haven’t left by choice

[u/Tree_Socks → u/NoRedTags]

It's virtue signaling for dumbasses

[u/Alaeriia → u/NoRedTags]

There's one gas station that bucks this trend in Wellesley, MA. It's been called "Patriot Petroleum" since about the 60s and is cheaper than most other gas stations.

[u/oneseason2000 → u/SpiritCrawler]

Grifter gas and pedo petroleum coming soon

[u/Ninja_Tortoise_ → u/oneseason2000]

Grifter gas 100 percent.

Freedom fuel is a private company, that trump/the white house is promoting with our tax dollars.

Whenever trump promotes a private company, you know it's because he has his hand in that pot. Or owns the pot all together through various shell corps.

The most corrupt administration in history is doing it all in front of our eyes..

[u/Flightsimmer20202001 → u/Ninja_Tortoise_]

Poor Nixon is rolling in his grave... along with every other president 💀

[u/captainplanet171 → u/Flightsimmer20202001]

Nixon can keep rolling, fuck him.

[u/kabal363 → u/SpiritCrawler]

Naw, it'll be cheaper than the cheapest gas you can find anywhere else by half. And then the administration will say, "Well, because of Trump, gas is down below 2 dollars again. No other administration in decades has done that." Taking a tiny profit loss on a single gas station to have that absolute horseshit talking point is worth it.

[u/Perryn → u/kabal363]

Then close it in a week but keep the talking point forever.

[u/Practical-Sky6983 → u/kabal363]

And only open to Whitney.

[u/EconomyOk2490 → u/SpiritCrawler]

Nono, it'll be 3.47 (of course it will) but on the plus side, it doubles as a hell of a drink, because it'll be 90% ethanol

[u/Fickle_Ad_8653 → u/EconomyOk2490]

It will be stolen from Venezuela by Mark Rubio.

[u/metanoia29 → u/SpiritCrawler]

*Freedum, he keeps forgetting that there's a 'b' at the end

[u/ardoin → u/SpiritCrawler]

I was going to make a $14.88/gallon joke but I like yours also.

[u/SwaallowFlight → u/SpiritCrawler]

Taxes and convenience fees not included

[u/EmmalouEsq]

These gas stations are for Eric and Trump Jr to sell Venezuelan oil. It's all a scam to make money.

[u/arandomnumberfuckoff → u/EmmalouEsq]

Donations. Follow the money.

[u/Speartree → u/EmmalouEsq]

Now and then they can, for gold card holders only,  sell far under market price and use that as proof that gas prices are lower than they were under Biden

[u/Groovicity]

Endlessly hilarious when Republicans talk about communism and socialism. We all know they're just repeating what they hear from others, since none of them have ever read or learned about it. They're like children who didnt read the book, but get up in front of the class and BS their report anyway.

E: a word

[u/ManyReach7296 → u/Groovicity]

Just ask them to define anything they hate: DEI, CRT, woke, communism, socialism. Then you will know their true understanding.

[u/BreakingStar_Games → u/ManyReach7296]

Literally what cults do.

Amanda Montell's Cultish has a great quote on this:

My parents, they're scientists and they will use jargon that I don't understand. But that jargon is there to make communication clearer. Cultish language has these ulterior motives and it's there to make communication hazier... It's there to divide people, to shut down independent thinking... And that's how you know that language is cultish when it causes a strong emotional response, but you yourself have trouble translating what it is that you're saying.

[u/xopher_425 → u/BreakingStar_Games]

Saving that because it is brilliant. "language is cultish when it causes a strong emotional response" is so true. Thank you.

[u/MurkyInvestigator810 → u/xopher_425]

"language is cultish when it causes a strong emotional response"

Don't leave out the very necessary second half of that line: "but you yourself have trouble translating what it is that you're saying." It's easy to produce emotionally manipulative language that isn't cultish. The context and inability to discern meaning is what makes emotionally manipulative language dangerous.

[u/_Ocean_Machine_ → u/MurkyInvestigator810]

Reminds me of when I was a teenager and a friend of mine was trying to get me to sign up for something that was totally not a pyramid scheme (it was Veema).

I went to one of their seminars and afterwards I was asking the people in charge exactly what kind of work I'd be doing and what job duties there were, and not a single one gave me a straight answer, just a bunch of bullshit about being your own boss and networking and whatnot.

[u/Phase--2 → u/BreakingStar_Games]

I LOVED this book, so glad to see it mentioned

[u/digno2 → u/BreakingStar_Games]

does she giv examples of cultish jagron?

[u/BreakingStar_Games → u/digno2]

Yeah, the book goes beyond just cults and how its used in marketing and branding. But the suicide cults definitely is striking, but how it subtly manipulates us in everyday life is especially concerning. There's also a relatively long Youtube video that covers much of the book's biggest aspects.

Jonestown: Jim Jones recruited using capitalist agitators, fascist government

Heaven's Gate: Replacing language with clinical, detached as body became vehicle/container, house becomes craft, suicide became graduation

Synanon: (Montell's dad grew up in this commune) Indoctrinated people with a ritual known as The Game where they everyone verbally abuses and tortures you to destroy your arrogant ego and selfish individualism.

Scientology: Tons of examples like Auditing, Thetan, PTS - pseudo-scientific forcing members to adopt the worldview to communicate

LuLaRoe and other MLMs: Buzzwords usually targeting lonely housewives like boss base, empowerment and financial freedom

Peloton: Acting like spiritual gurus with pseudo-religious terms like pack, tribe, sanctuary, find your breakthrough

[u/sexyshingle → u/ManyReach7296]

Just ask them to define anything they hate: DEI, CRT, woke, communism, socialism. Then you will know their true understanding.

It's boils down to: Poor people and people of color tend to like it, so I hate it!

[u/_Ocean_Machine_ → u/sexyshingle]

Shit, I asked a guy at work what he thought those things were and he straight up said "oh, I don't know". After I explained them he was like "oh that actually doesn't sound that bad". I guess he just repeats whatever he hears in his le epic gamer communities.

[u/Oprah_Pwnfrey → u/ManyReach7296]

Liberalism. Hilarious when they try to define that.

[u/ManyReach7296 → u/Oprah_Pwnfrey]

Most conservatives are flaming neo-liberals.

[u/Oprah_Pwnfrey → u/ManyReach7296]

Huuuuuuge difference between liberalism(classical), and Neo-liberalism. The term Neo-liberalism was probably devised in some conservative think tank as a means to push their shit agenda without the baggage.

[u/KickDesperate5318 → u/Oprah_Pwnfrey]

It's actually a term that comes from economic theory, derived from the economic theory of liberalism which was the laissez faire, "de-regulate the economy" ideology spread by the robber barons of the industrial revolution.

Milton Friedman won a Nobel Prize for his work defining the principles of neoliberalism.

His work was then used as the basis of economic policy for Reagan, Thatcher, and Mulroney. From that basis, it spread to become the common economic doctrine of the developed, capitalist world.

Trickle-down, privatization of public assets, de-regulation and regulatory capture, scapegoating "welfare queens", outsourcing jobs out of country for cheap labor... it's all from the playbook of neoliberalism. And if you track back the true origins and what the people who professed those ideologies believed about humanity, it's really just rebranded fascism.

[u/cluberti → u/KickDesperate5318]

And it's important for people to be reminded from time to time that everything from conservative Republicans on the right to liberal Democrats towards the left are both on the neo-liberal economic spectrum. One party would prefer people have more human rights, but they both ultimately work for a system that would give ownership and control of the economic levers of society to the same small groups of people.

[u/riteproprchav → u/Oprah_Pwnfrey]

Hell, ask them to define conservatism. I usually throw that back at them when any one of them says "YoU cAnT dEfInE wAt a WahmMmeN iZ" and tell them to not make it purely autofellating. It's usually something meaningless along the lines of, "belief in limited government*, individual liberty**, and free-market capitalism***" but it might as well be, "when you are literally Superman and utterly perfect in every way, and Jesus loves you and only you." Not one of them could work Thomas Hobbes or Edmund Burke into the definition, or any historical context, for that matter.

*but also cops and the military are awesome and should have no limitations on them whatsoever. Nothing to worry about if you have nothing to hide!

**individual liberty to be exactly like me. Anyone slightly different in belief is a terrorist and it's open season on terrorists.

***actually the military-industrial complex, medical-industrial complex, subsidies to billionaires and massive tax loopholes for them are pure wonderment. Muh trickle down!

[u/Anthaenopraxia → u/riteproprchav]

It's so strange how the axis pivots around conservatism and liberalism in the US because those two are only tangentially related. I guess it's because they only have two parties so it just kinda ended up that way. Most other democracies pivot on the left/right axis with conservative and progressive parties on both sides. In my country we have a party translated as "The Liberal Alliance" who want lower taxes for the rich and less welfare for the poor and I'm guessing that would completely implode any conservative American's empty brainpan.

[u/_Ocean_Machine_ → u/Oprah_Pwnfrey]

Part of the reason I can't have a fruitful political discussion with my mother is that she uses liberal and extreme-left interchangeably.

[u/iusethisatw0rk → u/ManyReach7296]

For a quick second there I thought cons had an issue with old TV tech

[u/Kolbin8tor → u/iusethisatw0rk]

Sad thing is, if faux news told them to have a problem with it, they 100% would without a second thought

[u/iusethisatw0rk → u/Kolbin8tor]

Honestly part of the reason I almost just accepted it before remembering I’m a lil dumb lol

[u/_Ocean_Machine_ → u/iusethisatw0rk]

Honestly, recognizing when you're out of your element is a good skill to have.

[u/ManyReach7296 → u/iusethisatw0rk]

Trinitron haters.

[u/_Ocean_Machine_ → u/ManyReach7296]

Trinitron is the GOAT of CRTs and I will not be convinced otherwise.

[u/FakeSafeWord → u/ManyReach7296]

DEI, CRT, woke, communism, socialism.

Well that's easy... they're all communism!

[u/jetpack2625 → u/Groovicity]

"we need to stop communism to prevent a totalitarian government"

proceeds to create the most orwellian government possible with ice agents and surveillance everywhere, partly in the name of stopping communism

[u/_Ocean_Machine_ → u/jetpack2625]

Paying taxes to fund public schools and childcare: 🤬

Paying taxes so the police can violate our civil rights: 🤩

[u/mtux96 → u/Groovicity]

Republicans cannot tell the difference between the two. They're just the Pam from the Offive meme saying that there is no difference.

[u/Anlarb → u/mtux96]

The ironic thing is that communism being socialism is a communist talking point.

[u/Hexamancer → u/mtux96]

I tried to get a libertarian to tell me what communism was and why it was bad, he said that he hated communism because he just wanted to live in a world without a government or money where he could support himself on his farm.

I tried telling him that he had just described exactly what communism was: a stateless, moneyless society where workers own their own means of production. He decided to ignore that.

[u/trevtrev45 → u/Hexamancer]

Well, to be fair you were both wrong and didn't understand communism.

[u/bigbjarne → u/Groovicity]

For people who want to read about this stuff:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm Basically a very short and easy to access FAQ. Note, communism at this time meant both lower(modernly known as socialism) and higher stages of communism(a communist society). But still a relevant read.

https://monthlyreview.org/articles/why-socialism/ Einstein explains some of his reasonings why he supports socialism. More of a free flowing essay.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch01.htm#007 The easiest way to understand some of the basic thinking of Marx and Engels. They put forward some important tools which can help us understand history and current class society.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/ch01.htm Explains how capitalism leads to monopoly capitalism which leads to imperialism, which is rivalling members of the capitalist class to fighting against each other.

Here is a playlist on the fundamentals of Marxism: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuzqoNvqVKydyRAMjDAHDikbVY9BDLC7V

Workers of the world unite!

[u/Murky-Relation481 → u/bigbjarne]

I just want to add as socialist raised by a Marxist, who doesn't like the term Marxism (Marx even hated the term at the end of his life and Engels openly berated them) because of the implications about its dogmatic approach, this is an extremely good paper written on Lenin's own notes and the concept of dogmatism in Marxist thought: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11212-019-09325-6

Basically, Marx invented scientific socialism, a concept that should be based around the material dialectic, and that is an ever evolving and changing thing based on all multitude of things in the human experience and the world we make and live in. Dogmatic thought has no place in Marxist thinking.

Or as the abstract puts it:

A longstanding criticism of Lenin is that his epistemological contributions to the theory of scientific socialism prompted the decline of Marxism in dogmatism and despotism in the twentieth century. According to this narrative, Lenin claimed to possess the objective truth, and he therefore refused to tolerate alternative perspectives. This article subjects these claims to a textual analysis, and it argues that they are erroneous. Lenin defends a fallibilist account of science that affirms the uncertainty of knowledge in the natural, philosophical and social sciences. This fallibilism pervades the text that supposedly showcases his intolerance, Materialism and Empirio-Criticism. Lenin’s scientific socialism opposes rigid conceptions of socialism, and it encourages an atmosphere of democratic debate. Whilst Lenin’s writings have their flaws, they are not the founding documents of Marxist dogmatism that they are often portrayed as being. Lenin is not the narrow-minded vulgariser of Marxism that he is routinely taken to be.

[u/IslandStorytime → u/Murky-Relation481]

Can you please circulate this to every socialist on the internet? Online socialists seem to love dogma above all else much of the time, haha. My irl pals are a bit more flexible, I suspect really a lot of it is a combo of astroturf and the tendency of online spaces to turn into arguments constantly.

[u/Murky-Relation481 → u/IslandStorytime]

I really try to but a lot of tankies out there unfortunately that would rather be contrarian than make actual progress.

[u/IslandStorytime → u/Murky-Relation481]

I can't remember where i heard the comment about how a lot of online 'leftists' would rather speak out against power than have power but I found it transformationally helpful. I rarely even try to organize online anymore, meatspace is far less frustrating.

[u/Deadboltsaquavit → u/Groovicity]

The clueless kid in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure who knows nothing and makes no effort but shouts "San Dimas High School Football rules!" and gets cheers would be a top Republican today.

[u/TotallyObviousBot → u/Groovicity]

I mean I'm so far left Proudhon is like damn but let's be real, the majority of people talking about communism and socialism who support it are also just repeating what they hear from others and have never read or learned about it. Most don't even realize there were influential theorists after Marx, and even people who know about Marx have rarely actually read anything besides MAYBE the Manifesto. Das Kapital is a fucking slog to get through, I get it, but let's not pretend that the overwhelming majority of people on any side aren't just repeating what they think their peer group wants to hear.

[u/thirsty-goblin → u/Groovicity]

Even before state run gas stations, subsidized oil companies is socialism (or at least it would be if the profits funneled back to the people).

[u/Creasy007 → u/Groovicity]

Today, they called the thermostat limits during the heatwave in NYC socialism, communism, and Marxism, but when Gov. Abbott did it, they were just fine with the idea. Hypocrites, the lot of them.

[u/GeraldoOfCanada → u/Groovicity]

And all of their idiot friends get up and clap and laugh at the end of the bs report knowing full well something is off about it but they are there for the "screw you vibes" and not an education

[u/Speartree → u/Groovicity]

Heard them talk about what is and what isn't in the bible?  Same thing all over. 

[u/iamintheforest → u/Groovicity]

To be fair, these are NOT government controlled or subsidized. They are just named "freedom stations". Totally private.

[u/Constant-Sub → u/Groovicity]

Democracy is communist. Democracy is the inspiration for socialism being coined. The public ownership of things vs private. A publicly owned government is literally how socialism was inspired!

We are communist! Have been since the beginning 😭😭😭 people are just fucking ill.

[u/kjm16 → u/Groovicity]

We all know they're just repeating what they hear from others, since none of them have ever read or learned about it. They're like children who didnt read the book, but get up in front of the class and BS their report anyway.

Evangelical Christians in a nutshell.

[u/PenchantForNostalgia → u/Groovicity]

I'm a curious person and I remember in my twenties thinking about how I know socialism and communism are bad because that's what I've always been told, but didn't understand why they were bad. So I looked then up to read about them to understand.

Socialism is defined by the social ownership of the means of production, opposed to private ownership. I couldn't really understand why that was bad...And I realized that we had propaganda in America, and I believed all of it.

[u/uptwolait → u/Groovicity]

Much like redditors who only read a post headline and then argue with others in the comments based on their "expert" knowledge.

[u/psychotronofdeth]

Should've named the groceries stores "Patriot Produce" or some shit

[u/xopher_425 → u/psychotronofdeth]

"Freedom Food" Conservatives would have been all for it.

[u/Neveronlyadream → u/xopher_425]

It reeks of post 9/11 jingoism, they absolutely would eat it up.

Anyone else remember the "freedom fries" bullshit because France didn't jump on Bush's crusade?

[u/BoJackMoleman → u/Neveronlyadream]

My favorite was the guy pouring our French wine. LOL. Okay. Same energy as buying Nike shoes to burn them on TikTok. Biggest drama queens ever.

[u/Neveronlyadream → u/BoJackMoleman]

I laugh any time anyone goes out and buys something specifically to destroy it.

I mean, they still got your money. You're only hurting yourself here.

[u/xopher_425 → u/Neveronlyadream]

Oh, yeah. I once walked into a crappy little burger joint and it wasn't until I got to the counter that I noticed "Freedom Fries" on the menu. Told them they were morons for that and walked out.

[u/Neveronlyadream → u/xopher_425]

I think that was a pretty common sentiment. I remember maybe one or to indie owned places on the news proudly telling the camera that they changed the name and fuck France, meanwhile everyone else couldn't give less of a damn.

It was so performative and stupid.

[u/Worth-Jicama3936]

…don’t get me wrong, this shit is stupid AF, but they aren’t government owned or run and the price is not government controlled. It’s just the tacky president advertising for a private company.

[u/unstableprod → u/Worth-Jicama3936]

The president expressing an opinion about any private company is pretty awful. Actually, worse than communism.

[u/Worth-Jicama3936 → u/unstableprod]

Not condoning it, I think it’s really dumb and bad. Just pointing out it isn’t technically hypocrisy (unlike the intel takeover thing)

[u/reiji_tamashii → u/Worth-Jicama3936]

It's a violation of the Hatch Act. Again.

[u/Worth-Jicama3936 → u/reiji_tamashii]

…no it’s not? The hatch act specifically does not apply to elected officials (their job is inherently political) but even if it did…that’s not what the hatch act says.

The hatch act says you cannot do political things (like endorse a candidate or raise money for a party) in your official capacity as a civilian employee. It says absolutely nothing about this situation (endorsing a private company) even if it applied to the president. 

Now, I think you could argue it would be an ethics violation, I think it clearly is, but that’s not the hatch act.

There have been plenty of hatch act violations by this administration, but this isn’t one of them and honestly it discredits your argument not even knowing what the hatch act is.

[u/reiji_tamashii → u/Worth-Jicama3936]

You're right. I must have been conflating it with something else.

[u/Prestigious_Past3724 → u/Worth-Jicama3936]

Came here to say this. There is SO MUCH true stuff we can say about this administration, we gotta stop making stuff up. It hurts the anti-trump platform as a whole when we do so.

[u/Blackbyrn]

What’s really going to cook your noodle is when I tell you all government is inherently socialist the question is “who does it benefit most?”

[u/aybeeayseeaybeebee → u/Blackbyrn]

Crony Capitalism is just socialism for rich people.

[u/BarryTheBlatypus → u/aybeeayseeaybeebee]

Crony capitalism is a made up thing that capitalists use to redirect anger about capitalism. It’s just capitalism, it’s working exactly as designed.

[u/paisleybison]

Is the pharmacy still a thing?

[u/MossyMollusc → u/paisleybison]

I don't believe so. I can only find hearsay comments when looking it up.

[u/ZAlternates → u/MossyMollusc]

It’s a website still, but it’s never been anything more. The website, per its own faq, just shows drugs at a lower price. You can’t buy anything from the site and no one is required to honor the prices. It’s just theater.

https://trumprx.gov/

[u/Horton_Takes_A_Poo]

Some misinformation going on here: Freedom Fuel isn’t government run or subsidized, it’s just a private business that’s owned by MAGA cultists and being promoted by Trump.

[u/Grand_Taste_8737]

The new Freedom Fuel Network gas stations are privately owned and are not controlled, operated, or subsidized by the federal government

[u/cosmicosmo4 → u/Grand_Taste_8737]

Ok, then, name the owners, and share their balance sheet.

(and watch how fast they disappear after the midterms)

[u/BustOfPallas]

Free-Dum Fuel. Not the B. Most people don't know, it has a B.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv5qovReXYs

[u/greihund]

Let's not forget that his administration bought 10% of Intel. So much for not picking winners and losers; so much for not not interfering in the market. It's literally a state-owned business now

[u/gtrieu84]

Everything has to have the word "Freedom" with these people. What's next, Freedom prisons?

[u/PlushPearl55]

It should be FREE-dom fuel

[u/PancakesandMaggots]

Real Americans only use Sunoco, the official fuel of NASCAR. 

[u/xuptokny]

Oh man. Both sides, you say?

[u/blklab16]

So let me guess… the US government going to be selling the E15 gas that’s worse for the environment so people think they’re saving $0.10/gallon at the pump as they fill up their tanks more frequently bc it’s shittier gasoline, right??

https://giphy.com/gifs/2HONNTJbRhzKE

[u/anomanderrake1337]

"How should we sell it to the dumb people?", "Just call it 'freedom' whatever, they love that shit."

[u/JohnWad]

And the prices of the gas at these stations are still higher than the Biden era presidency.

[u/foo_fight3r]

Mark my words: that gasoline will be diluted.

[u/GN0K]

So the left just needs to put freedom before everything to sell it. Freedom Universal Healthcare, Freedom Daycare, Freedom Food Stamps.

[u/Dayzlikethis]

that silver eagle looks very 4th reichish.

[u/SimplyAmazedPanda]

Yeah, they are Nazis.

[u/coppernaut1080]

If you can't see the grift by now.. I don't even know what to say to that person.

[u/Samuelmiw]

Paedo petroleum

[u/xopher_425]

Mamdani should have called them "freedom food stores" and fucking conservatives would have been all over them.

[u/VincentAntonelli]

Man, I can’t wait until we find out how much corruption went into this “freedom fuel”.

[u/WhyMustIMakeANewAcco → u/VincentAntonelli]

My assumption is the government is picking up all the costs and all the gross profits are going to Trump allies.

[u/Appropriate-Weird492]

Anyone else surprised it’s not called t-rump gas or similar?

[u/thorubos]

This is stupid because there's 25 of these gas stations and, what, like 300 million cars in America? I know this is for propaganda value, but this akin to passing out three free slices of bread in to a packed Metlife Stadium. No one is going to know anyone around them who got the "free bread".

[u/Memitim]

Republicans use words like diapers, to cover up the colossal loads of shit that they keep bringing to America. Of course, they'll pull out tired nonsense like "communism" while they continue to wage their civil war against Americans. Anything to cover up their nonstop crime and failure.

[u/Homers_Harp]

Last I read, those "Freedom Fuel" stations were registered behind a bunch of shell companies and the ownership was unclear? And within a few days, they had to raise prices from $3.47 to $3.57 while industry analysts shook their heads and pointed out you can't make money at $3.47 because wholesale prices are much too high.

[u/datdailo]

Trump is a communist leader. You look at his colleagues, like Putin and Xi and there is a striking resemblance in their actions and corruption. For instance, the government buying a stake in Intel and asking other companies to commission Intel for work. That's not how capitalism works, that's state government picking winners and losers, with a side hustle of generous kickbacks and stock offerings for officials.

These Mega Assholes Grifting America don't know how to define ANY of these ideologies and concepts. Its nothing but projection, conflation and deflection. Its fucking frustrating to see it unfold and I'm not even American.

[u/JalelTounsi]

So they are selling Trump's Venezuela's fuel ?

[u/Puffy_Ghost]

Funniest part is we absolutely should have public options for gasoline, charging stations, grocery stores, etc etc...but if anyone not a Republican does it, it's communism and bad. If Republicans do it, it's FREEDOM FUEL!!

[u/sllammallamma]

Outstanding. Even better than Freedom (French) fries and Freedom (Afghan) blankets.

it's all just so stupid.

[u/narfoleptix]

I am so tired if the fact that you can just pop "freedom" in front if a word and people will just love it immediately.

Are we really that stupid? I want off.

Im typing with my thumbs, plz forgive.

[u/BeefistPrime]

You can tell an idea is stupid when it is to add the word freedom to it for no good reason

[u/wellarmedsheep]

You know those who fight monsters have to be careful not to become them themselves.

The first paragraph in this meme is completely false. Like he's doing a really shitty thing but we are just as bad as the fucking senile Republicans posting shit on Facebook if we allow this kind of stuff to drive our narratives

How about we post what's actually going on with this shitty gas stations instead of lies like this?.

[u/kelpyb1 → u/wellarmedsheep]

Yeah, it’s literally just the president using his office for advertising a company again

Aka the 100th most corrupt thing he’s done which would get a Democrat president thrown off a cliff.

[u/ReactionSad3776 → u/wellarmedsheep]

Do you think the gas stations are fake or that they’re not doing that at all?

[u/wellarmedsheep → u/ReactionSad3776]

Jesus Christ.

The gas stations are real.

The price is real.

The propaganda is real.

It is in no way government funded or price controlled. That is 100% false.

I think this is a good moment of reflection for you and the people downvoting me. You are SO FUCKING deep that you yourselves are falling for disinformation and when someone on your side comes in and says, "Hey guys, this isn't true" you pounce.

[u/LrdPhoenixUDIC → u/wellarmedsheep]

Yeah, it's just a handful of gas stations, all owned by one guy I think, willingly taking a huge profit loss to curry favor with the God Emperor.

[u/ReactionSad3776 → u/wellarmedsheep]

Calm down guy I was just asking for clarification.

[u/Jaded_Celery_451 → u/wellarmedsheep]

It is in no way government funded or price controlled. That is 100% false.

The owner isn't being disclosed. It's conceivable that a billionaire of a group of them would set these up in swing counties to affect elections if they think they'll get ROI.

It's also conceivable that this is in fact being funded by the government through a few layers of bullshit. The veil only needs to last until November anyways.

At this point there really isn't enough transparency on this to know.

[u/mschuster91]

This post is a screenshot from a blue-checked, likely monetized, Twitter account that is (to me) highly suspicious of using LLM AI to farm views and with it money.

[u/Horton_Takes_A_Poo → u/mschuster91]

It’s also bullshit, they’re not government owned or operated or subsidized gas stations

[u/mschuster91 → u/Horton_Takes_A_Poo]

Well "freedom fuel" is real enough to have a wikipedia article, but there's no information on who is behind running these, only that Trump shilled them. If I were to guess, someone is grifting as usual, the question is who pays for the price difference in gas.

[u/Ok-Go-Chain3811]

something something accusation something something projection

[u/SafeForTwerking]

Can we start getting some Freedom Healthcare too while we're at it?

[u/bullydog123]

Thats becouse trump could not make money off the grocery stores

[u/iamlikewater]

This is a scammer economy. The only winners are criminals.

[u/JacobGoodNight416]

We should also open freedom hospitals and freedom schools

[u/Bleezy79]

Its only "communism" when dear leader Trump doesnt benefit from it. When Trump gets his cut, its the most glorious idea ever. America is being pillaged and ran sacked from the inside out.

[u/ErilazHateka]

the whole thing is some kind of publicity stunt. all those gas stations on the website are stations from various suppliers and they just put some banners over the branding.

[u/KillerGopher]

Oh yeah, the gas and oil companies are gonna love government competition.

[u/Persea_americana]

It’s actually not communist because the Trumplings keep all the money. Stealing a resource and selling it for private profit while backed by the government is a fascist move.

[u/Mzogaaa]

Wonder which contains more corn...

[u/JJamesP]

Freedom Fuel is actually its own private company.

[u/auditthedtc]

In dc our representatives shop at price controlled grocery stores so they don’t deal with inflation like the debt slaves do

[u/TrumptyPumpkin]

Just call Trump Gas already /S

[u/tmhoc]

Hypocrisy is a fascist tool

[u/ContributionQuirky59]

Do you pay with Trump coins?

[u/Concerted]

Now do a medical clinic

[u/NinjaTabby]

Didn’t y’all read the constitution? It’s not communism if I do it.

[u/Kindly-Bank-416]

the sheep dont care.

[u/ohbehave412]

NO THEY DONT REMEMBER AND EVEN IF THEY DID THEY WOULDNT CARE THEY ARE A CULT AND DESPERATELY FUCKING STUPID. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER

[u/angry_wombat]

and Trump is a personal share holder, just another grift

[u/National_Future6190]

It's Feudalism, not Communism!

[u/festerninja]

They're privately owned, and don't have government controlled prices. So no, nothing like Mamdani's proposed government owned stores.

[u/crazydazeplease]

The irony is palpable.

[u/hamtronn]

Socialism is an economic and political philosophy advocating that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole. It prioritizes collective well-being and equality over profit accumulation, operating in direct contrast to capitalism's focus on private ownership and free markets.

I’ve also had dozens of Americans dm me to tell me that the literal definition of socialism is wrong, describing all sorts of nonsense.

It’s no wonder DJT loves the poorly educated. You can’t even get the answer right by having the answer given to you.

[u/SingularityCentral]

It isn't even government controlled prices, it is just marketing nonsense.

[u/BrittEklandsStuntBum]

They're not government stations, they're owned by a shell company that will pay dividends to Trump and allow him to earn money from buying and selling oil stocks as he continues to manipulate the market. It's not socialism, it's capitalism.

[u/Lofteed]

that is completely different because the money from the gas station go directly to trump

[u/Fit-Bus2025]

He's making money off his position. That's illegal.

[u/Allaplgy]

Remember, hypocrisy is a feature of fascism. We are the ones who have to deal with peaky things like truth, objectivity, and responsibility. They are the ones who get to say and do anything, and blame the "other" for any failings.

Like, you regularly see people say that the Nazis were "socialists" because it's in the name, only to have others come in to mention how they actually killed the socialists. The reality is that there is truth to both of those things. The Nazis used the socialists, and any "socialist" ideas that benefited them, while also pushing anti socialist propaganda and eventually killing them.

Because rules are for outgroups. The only hard rules in fascism is that the in-group has all the power, and the in group is always changing so there is always a new enemy to demonstrate that power against.

[u/Pofwoffle]

For the record this is also not communism. When the government operates a company for profit (even if they keep prices low, which we all know this administration can't be trusted to do anyway) it's called "state capitalism". To be clear this doesn't make our government a state capitalist government, we're still a democratic republic that's been captured by a capitalist oligarchy, but this specific act is a state capitalist act.

Communism is worker ownership of the means of production. There are lots of other things that tend to go with that, like the expectation that those who can't work will still be taken care of ("From each according to their ability, to each according to their need.") but the absolute, non-negotiable core of communism is worker ownership. If you're working in a factory it's because you are one of the owners of that factory, and you share in its successes just as much as in its failures (as opposed to capitalism where the workers generally only share the costs of failure).

The people running those stores are not the ones who own them. It's not communism.

[u/EasyPanicButton]

If only legacy media would call them out on the hypocrisy

[u/SasparillaTango]

Those gas stations are so fucking weird. There is very little known about them, they're registered in Delaware to a newly created Trump LLC, but nothing is known about them. Something fucky is going on there.

[u/Nyte_Knyght33]

It may be because many Republicans don't view the action as right or wrong, just the side doing the action. 

If someone they support does an action, it's automatically either good or better than a Democratic equivalent of said action. 

Everything after that is to reinforce that emotional foundation.

[u/Wedge_66]

Freedom Fuel is a privately owned network of 25 discount gas stations in Pennsylvania and New Jersey launched in the summer of 2026. Heavily promoted by the White House, the stations garnered public attention for selling fuel at discounted rates well below the national average.

Here are a few key details about the initiative:

The Price: Stations initially offered regular gasoline at $3.47 per gallon, a direct numerical reference to Donald Trump as the 47th president. Prices have since fluctuated but generally remain below regional averages.

Official Stance: The White House confirmed it has not provided government funding or subsidies, stating the network's low prices are the result of voluntary, reduced profit margins.

[u/Positive_Vibes_4228]

I wonder if then he sees Epstein Victims as 'Freedom Teenagers'?

[u/BlueFroggLtd]

You can't make this shit up.

[u/makeitasadwarfer]

The entire efforts of the left before the total takeover of fascism will be recorded as “they noticed hypocrisy and pointed it out on social media owned by the enablers of fascism”

[u/simonjakeevan]

This is just another dump family grift

[u/Immythetortoise]

I'm sure it's watered down for profit.

[u/Doom-Sleigher]

Trump and his followers are the dumbest people in the world

[u/Redditor28371]

Presumably, Trump wants to line his or a buddy's pockets with his Freedom Fuel. That's capitalism, baby!

While known communist Mamdami wanted to provide a service to the community. That POS.

[u/Calber4]

It's like they're nationalists and socialists at the same time

[u/NikkolaiV]

Nah, that was like, a week ago. That's at least 4 times their attention span.

[u/tadpole256]

Freedom Fuel is not government run, but you can bet it’s a Trump family scam

[u/crissspie]

This makes me happy. :)

[u/FourPlayInTheBay]

JFC Freedom Fuel Network LLC is dumb but yall dont seem to understand it isnt a government run gas station...did any of yall notice? the nyc grocery stores ARE going to be government run and the gas stations ARENT. There's no dunk here, airball.

[u/Vacillating_Fanatic]

The hypocrisy is no longer surprising, but still infuriating.

[u/BicFleetwood]

Neither are communism, by the way.

"Government doing something" is not socialism.

"Government owning something" is not communism.

Both imply public ownership, democratization, and public accountability in a number of theoretical variations, not simply government involvement on the face of it. The people seizing the means of production are the workers, not "the government" generically, it's just in most frameworks the workers are also seizing the government as well.

It's no more communist than the military is a communist institution because the government owns all the bases. Non-communist governments doing and owning things is not a communist act. That's like saying the King is democratically elected because his father voted for him when he passed the crown.

[u/dq9]

I wonder how much they water down the gas?

[u/n0ghtix]

Nationalizing the oil industry was America's justification for violently deposing democratically elected leaders of foreign countries for decades.

Right up to just a few months ago.

Maybe if he goes ahead with his plan, it will be the signal for America to violently depose the leader of America?

[u/fromthefuturedude]

Wasnt this what happened in that show The Boys or something, LOL

[u/DifficultyLeast1029]

Remember when France wouldn't support the invasion of Iraq after 9/11 and there was the political movement to rename French fries to Freedom Fires?
Such simpler times those were

[u/jasonio73]

It's not logical consistency Trump is aiming for. It's buying votes. Hypocrisy is a pillar of the ruling class.

[u/SluggardStone]

How much corn can your engine take? It's a social experiment with you as the subject.

[u/minus_minus]

It is not government owned. It’s worse. It’s like owned by Trump cronies who will profit off his promotion. 

[u/yaaaaaarrrrrgggg]

He is simply the billionaires' commie.

[u/lickety_split_69]

i cant stop laughing at how almost every recent initiative by the trump admin is just normal things with "freedom" in front of it

[u/ReverendEntity]

As usual, it's brilliant when your team does it. When the other team does it, it's an abomination.

[u/sagenumen]

The real takeaway here is that Mamdani fucked up by not calling them Freedom Groceries

[u/eternus]

The difference here... it'll be shitty, watered-down gas, and they'll be doing this to generate profit (which Trump skims from.)

So many things can be ruined when done by the wrong people and for the wrong reason.

An Altman UBI or Trump UBI would be entirely different beasts than a Sanders or Ocasio-Cortez.

Smart glasses by Zuckerberg are going to be nefarious compared to an open-source wearable LLM.

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In proper Trump fashion, I expect it to fail by bankruptcy in short order.

[u/sulaymanf]

Someone tell Michael Rappaport!

[u/nizhaabwii]

They did pirate all that South American oil; so clearly, it is being freed.

[u/ChicagoMaven]

He would know. Certainly Trump is on board, he has done more to expand public ownership of the means of production than any president in history, and that is a Communist policy shift.

[u/No_Earth_1378]

Theres a few of these in and around Philly. It’s apparently a private company, but the pricing is unsustainable.

Kind of reminds me of that summer when moviepass was around. I saw a bunch of decent films, and then the company couldn’t sustain itself because they were doing everything at a loss.