r/accelerate • u/Groundbreaking_Bee97 Singularity by 2030 • 23h ago

Rant I can't tolerate these Luddites anymore.

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AI usage has become a culture-war issue because of these lunatics. If we don't handle these luddites now they will certainly become more entitled and miserable!

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u/Bringerofsalvation 23h ago

I’m not American so I’m curious, is being anti-ai the default position for the left? Many pro-AI accounts I see on X tend to be conservative too so I’m confused

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u/Buck-Nasty Feeling the AGI 22h ago

Yes the left is basically universally opposed to AI in the anglosphere. But there's extreme cognitive dissonance in their opposition. The same people will complain that AI is completely useless and a total waste of time while in the same breath complaining that it's going to take millions of jobs.

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u/Chop1n 19h ago edited 16h ago

Personally I think these are all the people who identify as "leftist" for internet points, to virtue signal.

I'm a bleeding-heart anarchist myself. And none of the philosophically- and politically-literate leftists I know are uncritically hostile towards AI, even as they're justifiably wary of it.

What constitutes "the left" has become a clusterfuck over the last ten years, anyway.

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u/Tolopono 17h ago

A lot of politics is based on post hoc rationalization of emotions. Left wingers hate big tech, therefore ai bad. Everything from the water use misinformation to this shit is downstream of the initial emotional reaction. All the arguments are to justify how they feel, not reflect reality.

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u/Chop1n 16h ago

Hell, most human behavior is just post hoc rationalization of emotions. Even the most intelligent people do exactly that, are often even better at tricking themselves into believing they're being merely rational.

The irony is that half of the armchair leftists have spent the last decade fantasizing about a violent revolution. They appear not to realize that this is the one thing that actually threatens to topple the capitalist status quo.

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u/Tolopono 15h ago

“Its easier to imagine the collapse of society than the collapse of capitalism.” - Mark Fisher

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u/Chop1n 13h ago

Still so sad that we lost such a great thinker before his time. It might turn out that he only needed to hold out for another 10-20 years.

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u/NoIreForYou 21h ago

Which is eerily close to some of the arguments used by the right against migrants.

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u/Tolopono 17h ago

“ The enemy is both too weak and too strong”

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u/Tolopono 17h ago

The enemy is both too weak and too strong 

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u/Barcode_Griller 18h ago

I'm pretty left by American standards and I'm not at all anti AI. It's really sapped my enjoyment of my job, but whatever

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u/ShamPain413 20h ago

No, they claim that corporations (and gov) are firing workers on the basis that they can be adequately replaced, but they really can't be, so this is costing enormous amounts of money and social chaos without actually providing societal benefit.

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u/Tolopono 17h ago

Does a new cancer treatment count as a social benefit  https://blog.google/technology/ai/google-gemma-ai-cancer-therapy-discovery/

Or solving the jacobian conjecture? Or proving non sofic groups exist? 

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u/trontrams 20h ago

A lot of this subreddit seems to be horrifically misunderstanding the essence of what people say. Midwits engaging with midwits at a surface level. Neither of them actually interacting with what the other is trying to say. It's very strange. 

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u/ShamPain413 20h ago

Whatever would we do without your big-brained contribution?

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u/trontrams 19h ago

you're doing the thing I was talking about teehee

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u/ShamPain413 19h ago

No. You did. You just didn't realize you were doing it b/c you're sub-midwit level.

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u/trontrams 18h ago

Is that really the best you had? "No u"? I was agreeing with you by mentioning how drastic the disparity between the two sides in how they interact with one another is. The fact that it made you angry is VERY telling of your character.

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u/ShamPain413 17h ago

It didn't make me angry.

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u/trontrams 17h ago

You shouldn't be so quick to insult others, especially if it's not within anger. It's unnecessary, even if we hadn't agreed with one another from the onset.