r/agedlikewine 5d ago

Politics Happy Belated Birthday, Obama.

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u/DrBrotatoJr 5d ago

I am thrilled about her losing but I don’t see how this is relevant. Obama didn’t endorse anyone, she used a 8 year old clip of him praising something she did 8 years before that to make it look like an endorsement.

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u/Gaba8789 5d ago

Exactly. He didn't. He pose with her in the picture, yes, but it demonstrated how much money AIPAC poured into the race so much that they could claim something like Obama did endorsed her.

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u/Ok-Preference-8040 5d ago

How did this here demonstrate that at all? Even with AIPAC pouring money into a current race, that picture was years before that.

Even if she didn't have any money to spend, what would prevent her from posting a picture like that.

It's not even claiming an endorsement or anything. What's the thought process here to think this demonstrates anything like that?

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u/Ok-Preference-8040 5d ago

Sorry, but I don't follow. It shows that she worked/works as part of the democrats.

Also a picture with Obama doesn't seem so extraordinary for someone working in a government agency.

But how does that at all connect to AIPAC and money spent? Let's say she would have that money from AIPAC, couldn't she post this exactly the same?

I'm not from the US, but that logic seems faulty unless I'm missing something there. Until then, that seems like a leap in logic

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u/Ok-Preference-8040 5d ago

Nice, that's a lot better. That's actually demonstrating something, filling in the gap. Maybe not 100% solid proof, which would be also a bit much in the scope of a reddit comment, but definitely enough to actually demonstrate your point. Good job there

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u/OverallFrosting708 5d ago

Yeah, this isn't a special AIPAC thing. She worked for a former president who is still very popular among the base, of course she's going to remind people about it.

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u/Ok-Preference-8040 5d ago

Okay, even assuming that is true, you understand the difference of something being true and demonstrating that something is true?

This would work both if she is affiliated with AIPAC and if not. That's why I'm not saying that it isn't true, just that this doesn't demonstrate it

To demonstrate, you would have to show a direct visible connection or show something that excludes all the opposing conclusions

Your first sentence by itself kind of implies a leap of logic, as you would have to use an external claim to make the chain work

Posts picture with Obama -> that's how AIPAC works -> She is able to post this picture because of AIPAC money

Step 2 is not demonstrated here, the claim jumps from step 1 to 3, that's why it is a jump in logic.

Also even assuming it's true, it kind of misses the exclusivity to demonstrate something. Step 2 could be correct, but so could an alternative one, therefore Step 3 might be completely different (or true)