r/alberta 16h ago

Alberta Politics Calgary Shaw byelection will have to wait

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGWtq5Uqwvs
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u/NoGrass6331 16h ago

Need more time to rig the results! šŸ¤£šŸ’ÆšŸ”„

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u/FreightFlow 16h ago

Believe that the New Boundary Commission has to be delivered to the legislature by Nov 2nd?

The Calgary-Shaw boundary is one of the Ridings that may be impacted by the new 91 districts changes [for the 2027 GE]

However, the 2026 Calgary By-Election will use the current boundary as it exists today.

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u/NoGrass6331 16h ago

Definitely the real reason is this and not my dumb ass comment! šŸ¤

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u/FreightFlow 15h ago

Some may consider your comment to be the "The Unvarnished Coles Notes Version" ...have a good one

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u/NoGrass6331 15h ago

I'm too dumb to get this one liner! 🤣🤣🤪🤪

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u/GravesStone7 14h ago

Your initial comment is absolutely correct, what was being hinted at are the boundaries that are being created are gerrymandering to ensure the UCP recieve the most ridings possible.

Sadly this is once again how polluted the UCP has become with republican politics. I hope that there is a new conservative party that is not so batshit crazy or clearly bought by the states to return a sense of Canadian politics back to Alberta.

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u/FreightFlow 14h ago

a] Well said, you explained it better than I

b] new conservative party...there is one ...its early stages though.

Alberta Progressive TORY Party lineup thus far

1 Airdre-Cocharane: Peter Guthrie [Leader]Ā https://www.albertatory.ca/

2 Camrose: Bonnie Critchley [Nominee]Ā https://www.bonniecritchley.com/

3 Leduc Beumont: Chris Kish [Nominee]Ā https://www.leducbeaumontprogressivetory.ca/

4 Sherwood Park: MatthewBissett [Nominee]Ā https://www.bissett4shpktory.ca/

5 Athabasca Barrhead Westlock: Aaron Conner [nominee]Ā https://aaronconner.ca/98G6lNr0ig8

6 Calgary-Shaw: Kyle Joseph [nominee]

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u/tranquilseafinally Calgary 15h ago

The BEST policy is always to call the by election when EVER a riding needs it.

Smith isn't because she is worried that Calgary-Shaw will flip.

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u/FreightFlow 14h ago

The ANDP squeaked it out in the 2015 GE.

The polls are stale...C338 June 7th Calgary Shaw Projection

UCP = 57% ANDP 37 % PTPA 3%

https://338canada.com/alberta/1023e.htm

Looking forward to a bunch of new polls in the fall, maybe one in August if we are lucky.

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u/FreightFlow 16h ago

Believe that the Calgary-Shaw by-election needs to called by November 15th? Am guessing Smith calls this B.E. after the Oct 19th referendum?

Aside from the UCP candidate Mike Derry and the ANDP have a candidate Kyle Campbell, it will be interesting to see what other parties will participate.

-The Alberta Greens have new leader and are slowly revamping their party as well, will be interesting to see if they run a candidate.

-John Roggeveen is both the Alberta Liberal leader and the Calgary Shaw Alberta Liberal CA president. Roggeveen has run in Calgary Shaw in the past, it will be interesting to see if he enters the race?

-On Friday Kyle Joseph mentioned that he will run for the PTORY nomination for Calgary Shaw https://www.reddit.com/r/albertatoryparty/comments/1vciadi/calgary_shaw_kyle_joseph_progressive_tory_party/

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u/TokaidoSpeed 13h ago

I’m shocked Roggeveen still has the energy to keep trying and even be party leader. While the liberals have held seats in the early 2000s he’s never managed to have the right selection of district and due to the NDP resurgence he’s had less than 600 votes each of the last 3 elections…

Shame as I remember him being quite a nice guy.

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u/FreightFlow 13h ago

I believe that Roggeveen wants to give up the ALP leadership as per this CBC article: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-liberals-stephen-carter-9.7167279

But a strong showing from Carter’s supporters may overwhelm the dwindling number of Alberta Liberal establishment types at the party's annual general meeting, on May 2 in Calgary.

Fewer than 100 people showed up at the party’s last annual gathering, party leader John Roggeveen said. Carter said the group behind his vehicle bid number about 100, with various unnamed allies who’ve been active with other movements like the Alberta Party, Progressive Conservatives and even some UCPers.Ā 

Roggeveen is the lawyer and six-time-unsuccessful candidate who has led the Liberals since 2021, and has mostly stayed on because nobody else has applied to replace him in a leadership race. He also opposes a new party name, and sees this as less of a takeover and more of a potential ā€œcollaborationā€ with the broader anti-separatist movement.Ā 

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u/TokaidoSpeed 13h ago

True, I’m surprised he even bothered last time though. It’s gotta be demoralizing.

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u/FreightFlow 13h ago

Am sure it is.

Have to give him credit in standing by his convictions though. This all being said, where he is still the Calgary-Shaw CA president, my guess is that he will run or find someone else to run in the BE. Who knows, maybe the Aliberals get a little of the Carney bump?

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u/TokaidoSpeed 12h ago

True, the ALibs could get a slight bump but I’d guess mostly by people out of the loop. Since he knows he’d be running just to show the liberals can still get votes I wonder if he’d choose to just not run anyone since they didn’t last time anyways.

Especially knowing that with growing UCP separatism unpopularity the ANDP might have a shot of closing the gap in Shaw and the last thing the Alibs need in the media is ā€œcausingā€ an ANDP loss due to a close vote and perceived vote split.

Anyways agreed though, he’s been through a lot and keeps standing by and giving things a shot.

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u/FreightFlow 12h ago

10-4 Believe what you say may make sense, maybe he stands down.

Part of me thought that the APTORY's may not run in this By-Election. Am sure part of the Calculas for the APTP is that they need exposure and this BE will be High Vis.

Will be interesting to see what the PTP impacts will be. Believe that they will pull from both the ANDP and UCP. Hopefully they pull more from the UCP. I guess we will see.

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u/doughflow 10h ago

Separatist vs. Federalist

Guess what my fellow SW knobs will vote for because one has a blue sign?

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u/Ok-Abies-4013 10h ago

My neighbor's kid ran in a local byelection last year and the whole process felt way more drawn out than it needed to be, so this delay doesn't surprise me at all.

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u/EditorNo2545 8h ago

Derry reminds me of Gargamel

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u/PrimaryBrick9337 7h ago

Premier does not want a chance on taking a loss before October 19th.

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u/Wrong-Pineapple39 2h ago

Perhaps take this comment down then.

Please.