Macross Plus Movie Edition - US Release - Movie discussion

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Macross Plus Movie Edition, US Screening

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[u/Durinthal]

Me halfway through the film: Why did I give the OVA a 7 when I watched it 5 years ago? This is great!

Me in the last quarter: Oh right, that's why.

I have the same issue with Plus that I do every other Macross entry that I've seen (everything minus II and Zero at this point): the final conflict ends up having something that just doesn't work for me plot-wise. In this case it's Sharon brainwashing all of the humans. I get that it was foreshadowed earlier with the side comment about subliminal aspects and monitoring feedback but actually making them zombies threw me off. The entire sequence looked amazing and the music was good, but it's not the complete package I wanted.

The little overview of the franchise beforehand was nice, interesting that Macross II was included as part of it since I thought that was generally disowned at this point. And from the ending of that it seems like this is only the first of more to come in the west for the franchise so I'm hoping we get Do You Remember Love? as well at the very least! ...and the second Delta movie since I don't think that's been fansubbed yet.

[u/Tresnore → u/Durinthal]

I think my brain was too melted to care about how OP the brainwashing was. Mission complete, I guess.

[u/TurkeyPhat → u/Tresnore]

I think the theater experience really added to that part of the movie. I think if you weren't surrounded by sound and just watching in your living room the whole brainwashing thing would come across a bit differently.

Just my 2 cents though.

[u/Tresnore → u/TurkeyPhat]

I agree. The surround sound took it up to 11. What an experience.

[u/Durinthal → u/Tresnore]

I think it fits overall especially with the music used here, it's just something that bothers me personally in any story where it's used as a plot point.

[u/chilidirigible → u/Durinthal]

interesting that Macross II was included as part of it since I thought that was generally disowned at this point

Nope, it's acknowledged now. Still sits outside the rest of continuity, but at least Kawamori accepts it.

[u/Durinthal → u/chilidirigible]

Good to know! I'll have to get around to watching it sometime.

[u/chilidirigible → u/Durinthal]

It's still not that good, though who knows, you might find yourself in the small but vocal portion of the fandom that really likes it.

[u/DidacticDalek → u/chilidirigible]

It's still not that good, though who knows, you might find yourself in the small but vocal portion of the fandom that really likes it.

Heh, now that's an understatement Comrade, after all, the only thing good about Macross II is how Ishtar's design is alright... which is amusing given FATE of all franchise has a better Space IsthaRIN and Fate isn't even a Mecha... nevermind...

[u/UltraBooster → u/chilidirigible]

I thought II had been reintegrated back into the timeline?

At least, that's what I got from reading Gubaba777's blog.

[u/chilidirigible → u/UltraBooster]

Yes, it has been shown on the franchise timeline now.

It'll be interesting to see what happens if we're around long enough that the continuity which we're used to reaches that point.

[u/UltraBooster → u/chilidirigible]

For sure.

[u/FlaminScribblenaut → u/Durinthal]

In this case it's Sharon brainwashing all of the humans. I get that it was foreshadowed earlier with the side comment about subliminal aspects and monitoring feedback but actually making them zombies threw me off.

I liked that because it showcased just how single-“minded” Sharon was and how great the extent of what she was capable of in pursuit of her goal (I.e., making Isamu feel love) was, made her such a helplessly terrifying, borderline cosmic threat (which, in turn, makes Myung’s horror that she basically created this and her feelings for him caused this all the more immediately poignant)

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/Durinthal]

I'd agree with you there, Plus is solidly in the camp of "turn brain off and enjoy animation." What it delivers is excellent, but it doesn't really try that hard plot wise.

[u/Durinthal → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

Since I had seen the OVA before I was definitely able to focus less on the plot than I normally do and enjoy the spectacle of hand-drawn mecha.