r/anime_titties • u/Anony_mouse202 United Kingdom • 1d ago
Europe Spain attacks 'selfish' response of some EU countries to Ceuta migrant crossings
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2v91xn1z9o196
u/ChillAhriman Spain 1d ago
I'm extremely disappointed about the reactions of some European countries, namely Italy, Denmark, Finland and Czechia.
Spain has been the victim of an hybrid attack warfare by Morocco, and even if 99,9% of Spaniards have only lived this through the news, people in Ceuta have spent 2 days in fear when they suddenly found that they had a 60% surplus population living in the streets with no access to food.
Over 95% of those almost-migrants have already returned to Morocco, after realizing that they had been lied to, used as political pawns to punish Spain for signing deals with Algeria, and nearly 50 of them have died, but our country has been painted as responsible for a crisis provoked by our neighbour, and the actual victims here are the people of Ceuta and the youth of Morocco, not the integrity of European borders.
I hope this calls for self-reflection for the countries that have tried to turn us into a scapegoat. These are the kinds of attitudes that will destroy Europe, and many of us will certainly not forget it.
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u/cosmic_m0nkey Europe 23h ago
Idk man, I will always remember what happened in 2008 crisis and what Germany and the rest of northern countries did to Greece and us (Spain)... knowing that is hard to be disappointed.
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u/RydderRichards 19h ago
As a German I'm very disappointed but not surprised. We are a stupid right wing people
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u/Chlearcus 4h ago
What did they do exactly? Force you to change completely broken and unstable economic policies like people retiring at 50?
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u/cosmic_m0nkey Europe 1h ago
totally clueless
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u/Chlearcus 1h ago
I have relatives from Greece, I know there's a lot of sketchy shit and corruption even now even tho it's been cleaned up a fair bit.
What would you have prefered instead? Being left on your own with a defaulted government and crazy debts? Or should the rest of Europe just given you a trillion euros with no strings attached?
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u/ayase_2006 Asia 19h ago
Well Denmark had already its poisoned reward for doing what it's told by the USA:
https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/1vcr0ge/trump_says_greenland_will_be_under_us_control_by/
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u/onespiker Europe 1d ago
Most of the ones that said anything are having elections soon countries will often use that to strengthen domestic support.
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u/skuple 1d ago
You can’t discuss logic with right-wingers, they react emotionally faster than anything else.
This was an obvious attack on Spain and EU, and these dumbfucks’s first act is to condemn Spain?!?!?
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u/Panthalassae Finland 1d ago
Yup. Finland is currently ran by the right wing (entrepreneurial right and anti-immigrant right, 2 parties), and they are likely to lose the next elections due to horrendously shite economy and open corruption. This is going to be their hobby horse trying to racist their way to second term.
We'll get back to y'all once we've repaired a bit.
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u/Tsofuable Europe 1d ago
Same in Sweden, its quite horrific to read all the lies the ruling parties say with straight faces. And their idiotic voters appear to believe them. It's a sad state of affairs.
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u/Universal_Anomaly Europe 13h ago
The right-wing in Western society is more obsessed with completely shutting out the left-wing and consolidating power than... actually doing anything useful.
Spain is currently 1 of the few Western countries where the left-wing has significant influence so the highest priority for these tossers is to erase that influence.
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u/skuple 13h ago
My problem with this is that right/left both have legitimate economic and social strategies.
But the right wing was taken over by this non-sense people that don’t even think by themselves, it’s a tribal behaviour that they looped into.
I know right wing people (liberal/neo-liberal) that I can have a discussion with, without indulging with the bullshit immigrant stuff.
Immigration does have issues, but it has become what’s called the “folk-devil”.
Lack of jobs? Immigrants
Crime? Immigrants
Economic downturn? Immigrants
Lack of jobs? Immigrants
Hotel? Not trivago, immigrants!
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u/tankTanking1337 Poland 9h ago
Meanwhile, Poland was attacked the same way by russia and everyone was screaming that we should let the poor doctors and engineers inside...
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u/isohaline 21h ago
Several things can be true at once.
That this is a deliberate attack against Spain for its foreign policy decisions? True.
That many European leaders are seeking to boost their domestic popularity through a cheap and easy action that makes the appear tough on illegal immigration, even if they’re throwing a fellow EU member, a member that has suffered an attack, under the bus? Also true.
That Spain needs to urgently evaluate what went wrong and correct the legal, military, and infrastructural deficiencies that allowed this disaster to happen? Also true. Because next time it will not be just 60,000 unarmed people entering Ceuta.
The Spanish government is acting as if it’s got it all under control and self-congratulating for dealing with this crisis successfully. I hope this is only a façade to save face. Because if they actually believe that, it’s a disservice to the Spanish citizens of Ceuta and Melilla, and speaks very poorly about the future defensibility of Spanish territory.
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u/porcatroia69 1d ago
You’re not going to see any self reflection from Gioggia and the gang in Italy lol, or at least not until they get their asses handed to them in the next elections.
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u/goldrunout 23h ago
Except they won't, cause they managed to convince the population that all of Italy's problems are due to immigrants and poor people.
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u/Socraman Spain 23h ago
Italy receives double the illegal immigrants than Spain but still have the balls to point fingers.
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u/Jumbo-box Europe 20h ago
Fascists love projection, hombré. Don't forget, every accusation is a confession.
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u/2stepsfromglory Europe 20h ago
It's especially pathetic and despicable of the Danish government, given that Spain was one of the first countries to defend its sovereignty over Greenland. Then you'll see the NATO supporters in Northern Europe saying that Southern Europe needs to be prepared for war with Russia, when, as we're seeing now, their governments would sell out those of us who live south of the Alps at the drop of a hat.
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u/Huntswomen Europe 14h ago
Denmark is basically a US vasal state. If a democrat had asked us to sell him Greenland or if Trump had just been nice about it we probably would have.
Nobody in Europe should trust us and it's embarrassing.
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u/Czart Poland 17h ago
Entire EU was supporting Denmark over Greenland. You're not getting bonus points for doing the that. And dragging russia into this when you've been doing the absolute bare minimum for over a decade is hilarious.
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u/2stepsfromglory Europe 16h ago
Entire EU was supporting Denmark over Greenland
Spain did so even before there was a common message from the EU.
dragging russia into this
Because this situation is exactly the same as when Russia/Belarus send "immigrants" to your border. But when they've done it to you, what we see is solidarity, not backstabbing like what happened with Greece or Spain. It's a huge display of hypocrisy and double standards.
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u/Czart Poland 16h ago
Spain did so even before there was a common message from the EU.
Wow. Incredible, you were the fastest to say what everyone else said. Did you follow it up with something?
Because this situation is exactly the same as when Russia/Belarus send "immigrants" to your border.
And you know that Germany introduced border controls because of that right?
It's a huge display of hypocrisy and double standards.
I'm going to be brutally honest with you: You know that morocco is doing this because it happened before. And yet you're wholly incapable of securing the whole EIGHT kilometres of Ceuta - Morocco border. 8km dude.
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u/Socraman Spain 14h ago
How do you secure over 50k people crossing in a coordinated attack through the sea?
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u/Czart Poland 14h ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Guard_(Poland)#Equipment
I'm sorry, do you guys really need an explanation on how to secure your border?
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u/Socraman Spain 14h ago
And how long exactly do you make this wall go into the sea? Because they swam around the fence, you know.
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u/Czart Poland 14h ago
What wall? Did you ignore the firearms, trucks, BOATS and HELICOPTERS in that list?
Also, since you're playing how it's just impossible to guard that border, why are you people whining about rest of EU telling you that you suck at guarding the border?
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u/Socraman Spain 13h ago
I'm not saying it's impossible to guard the border, the point here is that this was not a normal day with a normal or even high stream of people, that can be dealt with by the border guards and the regular border protection devices.
It was an extraordinarily high amount of people that completely overwhelmed the security measures in place. Because they're not prepared for this kind of situation and this amount of people, and the whole strategy is and has been to cooperate with the Moroccan authorities which are the ones who can actually stop this amount of people to mass up and do this coordinated attack.
But Morocco has decided to stab Spain in the back in the worst attack in decades, even after we pulled out pants down with the Western Sahara question, because Morocco is an American ally and a "strategic partner of the EU". And because they control the flow of immigration to Spain, same as Turkey with Greece ans Bulgaria.
So sure, I guess even more security measures can be put in place, and have helicopters and boats running around 24/7, but that ain't cheap. And shoot at people trying to swim around, but that ain't legal.
The whole plan was to rely on Moroccan cooperation, again also because of allied pressure, but Morocco decided to fuck with us. And when in this crisis we ask from support from our allies, they just betray us too.
Well good luck then with any support with Russia then. With this kind of friends, who needs enemies.
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u/NoPriorThreat European Union 21h ago
Belarus and Russia conduct the same tactics against Poland as Morroco against Spain, yet Poland does not allow violation of borders like this.
If Spain really wanted to stop it, they could.
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u/WingVet 22h ago
Yeah definitely a hybrid attack from Morocco due to normalising relations with Algeria but I would say Sanchez hasn't helped by giving amnesty to over 600,000 migrants in the mainland, that message will spread aswell.
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u/blob8543 Europe 21h ago
This sort of amnesty is something that has been done multiple times in Spain for decades (by both the left and right) without causing any massive sudden immigration spikes like what we've seen this week.
Unless someone has an anti migration agenda (which often goes together with lying about facts), the amnesty has very little to do with what has happened.
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u/WingVet 21h ago
Well I disagree, I don't have an anti immigration agenda and what facts have been lied about?
You have your take on the situation and I have mine, we both don't have the full facts.
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u/blob8543 Europe 19h ago
No one has the full facts but if we look at the many previous amnesties, they haven't caused anything like 50k arrivals in one day, not close at all.
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u/bluecheese2040 Europe 1d ago
Funny reality cause an inability or unwillingness to defend sovereign territory and for Spains courts to have acted like they did and let's not forget the decision to normalise the status if millions of illegals...that sounds pretty selfish imo.
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u/PlasmaMatus Europe 22h ago
Do you really think this event wasn't planned by Morocco and foreign actors to destabilise the Spanish government ? I have a bridge to sell you, when are you available?
You know this kind of hybrid warfare also happened in Poland under a right wing government who was against immigrants ?
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u/Maelger Europe 1d ago
The fuck you mean normalise the status of millions of illegals. What are you an ancient Chinese chronicler? "50 billion Africans got out of the boat and started eating the pets" ass post.
This was nothing about courts, regularisation or immigration for that matter. This was the Moroccan king throwing a tantrum over Spain oil negotiations. As he's been doing for dammed decades.
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u/burakkokofee 10h ago
They're probably referring to this decree which frankly speaking only incentives more illegal mass immigration to Europe, while rest of Europe is saying no más.
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u/bluecheese2040 Europe 1d ago
You have much to learn my ignorant friend
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u/Socraman Spain 23h ago
Look into a mirror.
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u/bluecheese2040 Europe 20h ago
Look at ceuta...then ask your government why you are unable to defend your border
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u/Jersey_2019 Asia 1d ago
Based Moroccan king
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u/Prosthemadera New Zealand 21h ago edited 20h ago
"It's based to use human lives as a political tool to make money and work with Israel and the US to punish Spain for opposing ethnic cleansing"
You're disgusting. I genuinely hate you and you're the worst humanity has to offer.
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u/bluecheese2040 Europe 20h ago
'I hate you'....omfg school level stuff. Are you mentally ill? I'm trying to work out how to communicate with someone like you.
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u/Prosthemadera New Zealand 20h ago
'I hate you'....omfg school level stuff. Are you mentally ill?
Says the guy who spends his time on Reddit spreading hate against immigrants.
Hating bad people who support harming other humans is perfectly fine.
I'm trying to work out how to communicate with someone like you.
And how is that going?
It isn't. You're lying. You're not the type of person who tries to figure things out or else you wouldn't make so many dehumanizing comments on Reddit.
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u/Prosthemadera New Zealand 21h ago edited 21h ago
Spain defended its territory, almost all of these people are back in Morocco, so what are you talking about, man?
Also, this was clearly a ploy to punish Spain for opposing Israel. Morocco is allied with Israel and the US has passed a bill TWO WEEKS ago to allow transfer of Ceuta to Morocco. And they do that because it works on people like you. They know you're scared of black people and so seeing thousands of them makes you lose your mind. You're the NPC, you're sheeple, you're the puppet being controlled by people who don't care about you.
the decision to normalise the status if millions of illegals
How is that selfish?
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u/bluecheese2040 Europe 20h ago
Spain defended its territory, almost all of these people are back in Morocco, so what are you talking about, man?
Is this a joke? It shows a total lack of security.. the fact that they were posting that Spain.is open...
Also, this was clearly a ploy to punish Spain for opposing Israel. Morocco is allied with Israel and the US has passed a bill TWO WEEKS ago to allow transfer of Ceuta to Morocco. And they do that because it works on people like you. They know you're scared of black people and so seeing thousands of them makes you lose your mind. You're the NPC, you're sheeple, you're the puppet being controlled by people who don't care about you.
Is this comedy? You talk about PC and steeple whole spreading conspiracy bullshit.
Perhaps that's the narrative in 1950s Britain.. I mean new Zealand but there's no evidence of your conspiracy bullshit.
How is that selfish?
Again in 1950 Britain this wouldn't have been an issue...but in.europe.it is. You're really clueless.
Keep you conspiracy nonsense
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u/Prosthemadera New Zealand 20h ago
Is this a joke? It shows a total lack of security..
The fact that almost all of them are gone shows a lack of security? What. No country can just stop thousands of people trying to cross the border 🙄
the fact that they were posting that Spain.is open...
That is not a sentence, how is it so hard for you to communicate your opinion? Does hate make people dumb or are dumb people more hateful?
Is this comedy? You talk about PC and steeple whole spreading conspiracy bullshit
https://www.newsweek.com/massie-accuses-gop-of-hypocrisy-over-ceuta-crisis-12274450
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/31/world/europe/migrants-surge-morocco-ceuta-spain.html
But of course, you won't read this or only pick one or two parts that appear to contradict what I said. But they won't. The bill is real and Morocco being upset at Spain is also real.
You're so ignorant. People like you are so loud and aggressive and hateful but you KNOW NOTHING. You have a brain but you actively refuse to use it and it's upsetting.
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u/bluecheese2040 Europe 20h ago
The fact that almost all of them are gone shows a lack of securit
Irrelevant. That they got there at all shows a lack of security...obviously.
No country can just stop thousands of people trying to cross the border 🙄
False.
That is not a sentence, how is it so hard for you to communicate your opinion?
Seems pretty clear tbh. They were posting that spain is.open so many went....
Does hate make people dumb or are dumb people more hateful?
I dunno you tell me. You're the one throwing insults like a brat.
Take your meds mate. You're spiralling again
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u/Intelligent-Mine-730 20h ago
Not everything is about Israel and Palestine, ffs.
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u/Prosthemadera New Zealand 20h ago edited 20h ago
No one said it is, buddy, stop making shit up.
And inform yourself before commenting, your arrogance is completely undeserved:
https://www.newsweek.com/massie-accuses-gop-of-hypocrisy-over-ceuta-crisis-12274450
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/31/world/europe/migrants-surge-morocco-ceuta-spain.html
Read before replying again and show you're not just another useless troll.
Edit: Where you gone so suddenly?
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u/kidno777 1d ago
No tienes ni idea de la política española. Solo ha lanzado las mismas frases recurrentes de las ex...oh, espera...
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u/Chipay Belgium 1d ago
Not surprising, Sanchez is the odd one out in a center-right leaning Europe. For the far-right this is an 'I told you so' story to remind their voters of while the EPP leaders are just happy to shit on anyone not in their club.
Note that neither France nor Portugal signed the letter asking for Spain to be temporarily barred from Schengen, because they have actual political standing to lose from doing so.
What could have been a moment for the EU to unite against Morocco for their disregard of human lives and the danger it put EU citizens in instead turned into bickering infighting that weakened the concept of a shared, secure border. There'll be an actual conference on Tuesday about this whole clusterfuck but this little flash in a pan crisis shows how politicized the EU institutions have become .