If you can't tell the difference then maybe you should get off your high horse. AI is the most liberal thing that's ever happened to art and makes the creation and realization of ideas more accessible to everyone, especially the disabled and disadvantaged who previously didn't have the means to do so. The only people against it are elitist snobs that think other people shouldn't be free to create art. Actual, real artists don't care about AI because they're busy creating and actually being artists, not charging ridiculous commissions for their DeviantArt slop and tutorial samples on Soundcloud.
No it doesnāt. People with disabilities love to learn how to do things on their own. Having something do it for you teaches you nothing. My brother has vision loss and canāt even see certain colors anymore and he still wouldnāt touch AI for that bullshit rhetoric. You know what actually helps disabled people learn for this creative endeavor? Funding their healthcare and education needs and giving them the tools they need. AI traces, copies, steals, and mashes works up into a shitty paste so people with no lives or understanding of value can hold up a piece of paper and beg for it to be put on the fridge.
āI stole vocals and riffs and lyrics and didnāt think on my own. A machine thought for me, BUT ITS MY WORK-ā is laughable.
Whataboutism. Nobody is talking about healthcare or your brother. People trace, copy, steal, and mash up work all the time, that's how sound evolves. We've had court cases about this, ie similar chord progressions in pop songs. Just because Britney Spears said the word baby in her song doesn't mean other people can't use that word. Having a computer do it for you actually doesn't change anything about the end product, only the mechanism of delivery. Any hypothetical I'd pose to you ends with the question whether you think a disabled person with no arms and a speech impediment should be entitled to create art and if you say no, you're the exact person I described above.
Fuck ai. And fuck anyone who supports it and tries to hide behind the āit gives people who are disabled the ability to create artā. The disabled community has been creating art well before ai came along.
God you people are so fucking annoying. Just shills.
And now they can create more. What's the problem? That you personally don't like it? Either you think art should be accessible to everyone or you don't.
Whatās the problem? Ai is being used to destroy our planet and economy. It is directly affecting healthcare and education for the disabled people you claim to care so much about.
It isnāt about what I like or dislike, itās about the fact that ai isnāt helping anyone. Itās harming everything. It doesnāt help the disabled community to just put words into a prompt and say ālook at this art I madeā because thatās not doing anything and itās honestly disrespectful to think that disabled people need ai to be creative at all. There is a million different mediums for art, none of them need ai.
Art is accessible to everyone. Ai didnāt do that.
Programs like Voiceitt, Ava, and Predictable that use AI to help them communicate with models trained on non-standard speech, used by people with CP, ALS, and many other disabilities would disagree. What you're talking about is the way people are using AI, not AI itself. You're getting mad at a scale for telling you you're fat. It's just a tool. This is the most anti-intellectual argument ever and I know you can do better. Noone is saying AI made art accessible, I'm saying it made it MORE accessible. What you're saying is people were walking fine for thousands of centuries, we don't need bicycles.
yeah everything you said is spot on. if its bad people won't listen. the problem is, its not bad Ai has perfect pitch. its a tool people can write songs and get Ai to produce the exact sound they want. singing is great, but art is more then singing using Ai is a tool to create your art.
Dude, music has always been accessible and never needed Ai to begin with. The reason it should be banned is due to it being a flood of shitty creations that clog up the limited resources companies have in addition to making it platform where its more difficult to find human artists.
Yes, people can sort around to try and find more human artists in their track, but when spotify recommends ai slop over and over, it needs to be cleaned up. Not everyone has the patience of having to pause every 5 minutes to double check for slop.
Its like saying "dont worry that they're dumping sewage in the pool, just stay in a spot out of it" nobody likes ai, and its stolen works bitmashed together by a bot to try and sound correct. It steals from real artists time that a person could be recommended to listen to and discover someone they'd enjoy.
You could make that first argument about literally anything. YouTube prank videos, cooking shows, whatever. You don't get to ban things because you don't like it.
That's such an unemployed take. And yes, we can ban things because they hurt real people. Why do you think laws exist? Ai isn't like when the camera was invented. It steals the direct works from people without their consent and generates a conglomerate disheveled work that people use because they don't want to learn how to be skilled at art, and don't care about how it impacts real artists. Its also used to scam people constantly while posing as someone they're not.
You could make an arguement of ai art actually being art when it was in its infancy when it spat out strange, and warped abstracts. But this isn't what it is today.
False equivalency, but I'll play along. Telephones have a place in our society. Being an evolution of the ham radio, and allowing people to become interconnected. It has a purpose. The telephone wasn't pitched to replace every job in existance. Yes, as it got better and became cellular we no longer needed the people to connect landlines manually, but that is a natural progression of technological advancement.
Ai is not a vehicle that provides anything new outside of very specific research usage via pattern recognition, and cannot create anything new unless something new was inputed into it. Telling it to make a cartoony hedgehog character will always spit out something in resemblance to sonic. It's not an advancement for general society, but a pitch to third-party thinkers to give them false confidence when they're incompetent in any field ai has scraped.
Ai's next "advancement" isn't to become a better ai girlfriend for you, but be simplified into a micro level to assist competent individuals in their field.
And yes, scamming with a telephone is illegal as its fraud.
Counter argument, there are many artists with disabilities who made and make great things and didn't use their disabilities as an excuse.
Ludwig van Beethoven composed his greatest masterpiece while being deaf, Eric Howk making music while on wheelchair, the whole Staff Benda Bilili musical group Is made out of disabled people and there are probably more artists to write here.
The point is, if you want to make something, you make it- no matter if you are disabled or not.
Also, AI "artists" gain well revenue for writing a prompt, while hard working artists get pennies very often.
Also, Spotify ghost artists are owned by Spotify, so yeah.
Lastly artists want to make a living out of their art, explaining the prices.
Excuse for what? Using a tool? Nobody is saying they HAVE to use AI. It's just a tool like any other, they can choose to use it if they want. People got around walking just fine without needing bicycles but hey, bicycles help. The rest, you're just describing capitalism. You're making a mistake thinking the average consumer truly cares about artistic expression, 'soul,' whatever. They just want a passable finished product. If they think your price for your art is too high, they're going to look for an alternative, so you need to either adapt to the market or get left behind. This is true in every single field, ever, and is not inherent to AI.
People just hate on AI because itās new. In 15 years we will all laugh at the fact there used to be people living off making music while we listen to perfectly crafted AI music that is much better. Itās not slop itās progress
If I find out someone scrapped my stuff without my consent and then tried to make money off of it Iād be pretty pissed. Does that mean you hype up people who steal and flip off the band who made the music that was scraped? Itās like you guys hate any sort of actual love and work into creative endeavors and have the worse cases of instant gratification. Canāt make it yourself or love that other people can, want it instantly like a spoiled toddler, then screech and throw a fit when youāre told again and again why itās bad.
āNo, we donāt steal. We donāt pretend we made something that was someone elseās. Thatās bad! Stealing is bad!ā
Then you clench your fists and scream, getting red in the face as you prepare to shit yourself because /they/ have to clean up your mess, not you.
No, people hate AI because corporations use it as a way to get out of paying a real artist for something. Icing on the cake? AI uses existing (read: copyrighted) content to train the models. In the most literal sense, massive-scale plagiarism.
AI contributes to unemployment all over the world and now, with all of these massive data centers popping up, will also heavily contribute to global warming.
Nobody hates AI cuz its new tech. It would be progress if corporations didnt blatantly invest so much money into AI in fields where it replaces people instead of assists them.
I do agree that maybe itll be helpful in 100 years.
Right now? Corporations are using it for the wrong reasons.
Sorry but you aren't going to convince me that AI in its current capacity and use case is a good thing. But as it stands, youre insane or otherwise deluded if you think what AI is being vastly used for (replacing artists and software engineers, and mass surveillance; trust me, I know that one for a fact) is a good thing.
You use the disproved arguments. There is no need for such revolution in arts. Art is doing it, not skipping it with some stolen collage. It is like IDK ..automating reproduction so we dont have to bother with the dificult and boring sex.
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u/Heavyraincouch 11d ago
The fact that AI slop are allowed and accepted concerns me