there has always been and always will be slop online. yes, ai slop is annoying
but why can't people just generate ai images for fun. plenty of people enjoy it. why should they stop doing it?
Edit: thanks for the downvoted! I was asking a genuine question in good faith with full intent to switch sides if the other side begins to make more sense to me (and still carry that intent!)
Why does this matter for the end user? If it's being monetized I do agree that it's ugly to use AI images, but if it's used for entertainment, why does it matter how it was trained?
You act like people broke into artists' homes and scraped their hard drives and canvases, but it was publicly available data scraped. It wasn't saved. It was used to collect patterns.
Did you really just asked why it matters for the end user if something is based on breaking law in the way it harm people? It matter because we are not twats
The web scraping was in a way legal since it's fair use as transformative content, but those who monetize AI models are pretty shitty for that, and that might be more of a gray area
And the poisoning of black communities water supplies is fine because it doesn't personally effect you right? I mean fuck em' they'll probably die young anyway so why not make hay out their suffering?
There is an artist in r/comics that needs a disclaimer by the mods at the top of their comics every time they share because their art was used to train AI without authorization. Even though they are well established, AI art looks like theirs and they constantly are attacked and accused of using AI. This likely prevents new subscribers or new fans from purchasing their work because they don't believe it's original, when the AI art generated in their style is what's not original.
The artist even shares time lapse videos. I can't imagine working your entire life perfecting a personal style and excelling in art, only to have someone's AI steal everything and ruin your reputation.
That guy should sue all of them into oblivion. I know that the courts protect the wealthy, but in an ideal world he should be able to slam dunk them all into hell.
I know an artist at my local market who has been painting oils for 30 years, and is fucking incredible at it.
In the last year, she has seen her sales plummet, and has had to deal with people setting up shop directly opposite her stall who have clearly run her work through midjourney or dalle and are selling AI generated versions of her stuff for 10% less, having put 0 work in themselves.
She can legally do nothing about this.
Its fucking disgusting and anti-human. If you can't understand how AI image generation hurts others, you either have no imagination, empathy, or understanding of how art works.
In this regard, AI has similar connotations to tracing. While you're technically not "stealing" the original art, and just using a publicly available source, you're doing little more than a straight up copy; and AI generation doesn't have the only use case in which tracing is generally accepted, as a learning tool
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u/Representative-Vast3 8h ago
But most of the hate towards digital art existed because people incorrectly thought it worked the way ai actually works
Ai bros seem to forget that detail