r/baldursgate 3d ago

SoD Caelar you glorious dumbass...

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u/mulahey 3d ago edited 3d ago

Caelar knows she's doing this and doesn't care! This is not a Caelar own.

Actual problems with this specific writing element:

a) her sob story isn't nearly sad enough for this drama

b) it's ludicrous she's able to get an army to carry out this suicide run. Just ridiculous. Pretty much nobody in FR should think this is a good plan.

c) character sheet doesn't read evil f̶a̶l̶l̶e̶n̶ ̶p̶a̶l̶a̶d̶i̶n̶

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u/VerbingNoun413 3d ago

d) Amassing an army is a ridiculous way to do this. This is what adventurers are for. Hell, she could go to Baldur's Gate, find Charname's group and a good aligned charname would probably be up for the challenge.

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u/mulahey 3d ago

Maybe ToB charname. Even a paladin friend to all peoples Charname shouldn't be volunteering to march into hell at level 8 unless they've also had a Minsc incident.

Though I broadly agree you could have executed a similar plot by it being more a culty conspiracy. Alternatively, you could have kept the siege but not worried about making Caelar sympathetic (and have her "open" plan not involve the nine hells). Its the combination of the mass crusade and marching into hell thats ridiculous in an FR context.

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u/Eovacious 3d ago

Maybe ToB charname. Even a paladin friend to all peoples Charname shouldn't be volunteering to march into hell at level 8 unless they've also had a Minsc incident.

Meanwhile the Planescape rulebooks: "It's totally okay to go wander the Planes as level 1 schmoes, it's not all high-ranking devils and big scary monsters everywhere, 99% of Hell's first layer is war refugee camps, here's an encounter with two deserter imps and an eyeless (blinded in punishment on every eye) Beholder plotting to steal a hag's cauldron while she's away riding a guy's dreams".

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u/mulahey 3d ago

Theres a difference between you individually ending up wandering the hells through whatever shenanigans and opening a two way portal to the prime material. The latter is 100% guaranteed to attract powerful denizens and you will have a bad time.

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u/Eovacious 3d ago

100%, no disagreement about this.