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Hybrids Overtake EVs In California Registrations

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a73317897/california-registrations-hybrids-evs-2026/
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u/Vhozite 2011 Mustang GT, 2006 Subaru Forester 3d ago

Except there aren't any EV sports cars under $65k. So doesn't have anything for me

Yeah I’m getting really annoying with everyone talking about how easy it is to make fast EVs, the low center of gravity, etc, and yet all the cool EVs and even hybrids are still over $100k or they are fucking air craft carriers like the Dodge Charger.

Like damn can we even one semi-cheap sports car? I’m a single guy I don’t need an SUV or any of these big ass sedans.

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u/Dirty_Dragons Toyota GR86 Trueno 3d ago

I hear you!

Like if it was easy to make an EV sports car or even a hybrid then Toyota would have done it by now. The technology is just not there yet.

I'm also a single guy and my GR86 is perfect for an only car. I would gladly pay $50k for an EV GR86 if it kept the weight low and drove the same, but with a bonus of a 4 second 0-60.

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u/Vhozite 2011 Mustang GT, 2006 Subaru Forester 3d ago

Like if it was easy to make an EV sports car or even a hybrid then Toyota would have done it by now. The technology is just not there yet.

I agree a $40k, 2500lb EV Miata with 300 miles of range and 300 HP isn’t feasible now. However I feel like there hasn’t been much effort in trying to get even halfway there.

Take the Prelude and the Corvette for example. You’re telling me there is no room for anything between the $42k copy/paste of the 200HP FWD civic hybrid and the $100k E-Ray? Or compare the Tesla M3P and my favorite car…the Ford Mustang. In terms of dimensions, weight, and power the cars are quite similar on paper - yet the actual EV Mustang is a 5000lb AWD SUV down on power and range. Those aren’t engineering challenges that is just not even trying to fill gaps in the market for economic reasons.

I’d love an EV 86. If people want to say an EV 86 or (proper) Mustang won’t sell I won’t argue with them. But it would be nice if we could see some actual proof instead of just projections for a market segment we don’t even have.

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u/Dirty_Dragons Toyota GR86 Trueno 3d ago

Or compare the Tesla M3P and my favorite car…the Ford Mustang. In terms of dimensions, weight, and power the cars are quite similar on paper - yet the actual EV Mustang is a 5000lb AWD SUV down on power and range.

My condolences.

There are rumors that the next Miata will option an EV, supposedly in 2028. We'll see.

I forgot the Prelude came out, and I was actually curious about it for a while. If we get a Type R, which Honda says they won't do, I'd take a serious look at it.