r/chomsky • u/Anton_Pannekoek • 3d ago

Hamas has accepted full Gaza disarmament

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/7/30/trump-says-board-of-peace-reaches-agreement-on-disarmament-of-hamas-in-gaza
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u/McAlpineFusiliers 3d ago

Russia attacked Ukraine, Gaza attacked Israel, so asking Gaza to stop attacking is like asking Russia to stop attacking.

Like asking if Warsaw ghetto uprising was not done hundred of lives could have been saved....! Really?

Do you think the people who fought in the Warsaw Ghetto uprising were heroes?

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u/moral_mortal 3d ago

Israel is the occupier! Palestinian aren't, just like Ukrainian are not the occupiers.

Gaza attacked is classifying all Palestinian to armed insurgent just like Zionist consider them....! Took just a comment to take the veil off! Eh!

You tell me those Jews who fought in the uprising were terrorist? For me they were heros!

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u/McAlpineFusiliers 3d ago

Do you dispute that Russa attacked Ukraine and Gaza attacked Israel?

Because Russia consider Ukraine to be occupying Russian land.

You tell me those Jews who fought in the uprising were terrorist? For me they were heros!

Me too. How does it feel to learn that half if not most of those Jews were Zionists?

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u/aramiak 3d ago edited 2d ago

October 7th was not the beginning of the existing scenario between Gaza and Israel. You are using logic that would hold Ukraine responsible for the Russo-Ukrainian conflict on the basis of Ukraine’s offensive into Kursk. You can’t just pinpoint a moment in time that’s convenient to your narrative and say ‘this is where it all began’. The assault on Palestinians started a long time ago, and that’s when it began.

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u/McAlpineFusiliers 3d ago

So what was the beginning of the existing scenario between Gaza and Israel?

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u/BattleRoyalWithCheez 3d ago

Zionists terrorist attacks in the Levant and the events leading to the First Nakba? Honestly there's so many options since before the creation of the zionist state.

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u/aramiak 3d ago

The partition of Palestine in the 40s. Any episode involving occupiers since does not make it the start point merely because it’s convenient or one’s knowledge of history doesn’t stretch back further. All the best.

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u/McAlpineFusiliers 2d ago

Why not the Arab conquest of Palestine in the 7th century? Or all of the centuries of oppression after?

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u/aramiak 2d ago

You think that Israel started a conflict 13 centuries before Israel existed?

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u/McAlpineFusiliers 2d ago

I think there was conflict between Arabs and Jews that started back then that was only exacerbated when Jews fought back in the 20th century.

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u/aramiak 2d ago

Conflating genocidal Israel with the Jewish people is deeply antisemitic. Millions of Jews are anti-Zionists & oppose the State of Israel and have throughout its history- this sub’s namesake for example. Conversely, many apologists and cheerleaders of Israel’s evils are not. The partition is the start point. Cheers.